Johns-Arcade Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Great, thanks John Got a part number please? :) I have a few Chassis to do Oh, and can you use a normal electrolytic? No Dez, you need to use a NP. You can buy them from here. http://www.wagneronline.com.au/non-polarised/electrolytic-radial-non-polarised/capacitors/electronic-components/909-9-9090919-909xx3-971895/fl/ Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homepin Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I mean can you use a polarised +/- Electrolytic :) I wouldn't BUT you can use TWO polarised electros of double the original value - in series with the two +ves connected together and the remaining -ves used to connect to the PCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share Posted August 8, 2015 I wouldn't BUT you can use TWO polarised electros of double the original value - in series with the two +ves connected together and the remaining -ves used to connect to the PCB Thanks Mike, and John too :) - - - Updated - - - No Dez, you need to use a NP. You can buy them from here. http://www.wagneronline.com.au/non-polarised/electrolytic-radial-non-polarised/capacitors/electronic-components/909-9-9090919-909xx3-971895/fl/ Regards, Johns-Arcade. They sell 100V caps, 1uF. This is OK? The originals were 160V :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Thanks Mike, and John too :) - - - Updated - - - They sell 100V caps, 1uF. This is OK? The originals were 160V :) Hmm... I'm sure they use to stock 160V ones, as Wes was where I bought all my caps from. You could try here. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1uf-160V-Non-Polar-Radial-105-Degree-Capacitor-/360391794613 Or maybe Mike?? @Homepin :) Regards, Johns-Arcade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share Posted August 8, 2015 I may try the 100V caps I can't see more than 100V on them 3 x caps (C202, C203, C204) http://www.dsbelec.iinet.net.au/LAI-KZ-XY-Schematic_2015_DB_Rev-01.jpg - - - Updated - - - I placed an order at wagner Thanks John. Looks like they also sell the 1.5 ohm Amplifone WG6100 10W resistors (Non-Inductive type) I got some spares They also have them TL082 ICs needed for the XY Generator (Elem14 are all out) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Today I finished the assembly of the Chassis I hooked it up and nothing blew up. But I have no space to work. I barely could make my way behind the machine. I need more room to work safely I have the machine playing blind, and I had some HV. I used my HV probe to discharge to monitor and the chassis had HV, it was already dropping and was at about 4KV when I hooked up the probe Like I say, it's progress I will make some room in there and test my voltages and see what's going on. I have to set the B+ to 115V etc. I may fit a new anode cup on the HV lead. The original one is a bit hardened so risks falling off during the test More soon - - - Updated - - - Oh, and the electrolytics fitted are still the +/- polarised ones, so I will fit the non polarised ones as well. But I doubt that is the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Oh, and the electrolytics fitted are still the +/- polarised ones, so I will fit the non polarised ones as well. But I doubt that is the problem I wouldn't be so sure Dez. Normally non-polarised capacitors are use due to swinging voltages (AC). If you have a look at the schematics, these caps could be affecting the deflection output. Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 I wouldn't be so sure Dez. Normally non-polarised capacitors are use due to swinging voltages (AC). If you have a look at the schematics, these caps could be affecting the deflection output. Regards, Johns-Arcade. OK, will get the newies in :) Cheers There is a polarised cap in the chassis you fixed for me, and it still works :) That's why I thought it would be OK :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 OK, will get the newies in :) Cheers There is a polarised cap in the chassis you fixed for me, and it still works :) That's why I thought it would be OK :) Which one is it Dez? Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 which one is it dez? Regards, johns-arcade. c204 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 c204 :) I either followed someone else's mistake when replacing it, or I ****ed up and got lucky! :D Regards, Johns-Arcade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 I either followed someone else's mistake when replacing it, or I ****ed up and got lucky! :D Regards, Johns-Arcade I have the caps, so will either fit them or canibalise them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I have the caps, so will either fit them or canibalise them It will be nice to see a complete replacement KZ chassis working. This is for your Lunar Lander if I'm not mistaken? Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 It will be nice to see a complete replacement KZ chassis working. This is for your Lunar Lander if I'm not mistaken? Regards, Johns-Arcade. It will, but I tried it in the Asteroids first, as it was more accessible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It will, but I tried it in the Asteroids first, as it was more accessible Don't forget the pictures :) Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Don't forget the pictures :) Regards, Johns-Arcade. Will do . . If you ever make your one up mate, good luck. There are so many shortcomings. I will prob redo it, when I do the G05-801 defl soon - Same batch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Will do . . If you ever make your one up mate, good luck. There are so many shortcomings. I will prob redo it, when I do the G05-801 defl soon - Same batch That's ok, I'll get to it one day. Did I read that right, you're doing the 801 deflection pcb? Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 That's ok, I'll get to it one day. Did I read that right, you're doing the 801 deflection pcb? Regards, Johns-Arcade. Yeah mate, design with improvements finished (Takes alt transistors) Double checked against the schems - ready to submit http://www.amazingarcading.com.au/Tempter801-sm.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Sweet! Any reason you're making the 801 over the 802, or is this planned too? Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Sweet! Any reason you're making the 801 over the 802, or is this planned too? Regards, Johns-Arcade. I doubt I will do the 802, or V2000s The main reason is I have plenty of 802s LOL. I only have only 1 x 801. I also have a few V2000s too. I located some of them Neons, so all parts are attainable But I am sure I may sell maybe 10 801s or so to offset costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I doubt I will do the 802, or V2000s The main reason is I have plenty of 802s LOL. I only have only 1 x 801. I also have a few V2000s too. I located some of them Neons, so all parts are attainable But I am sure I may sell maybe 10 801s or so to offset costs So you will be making all the PCB's? Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 So you will be making all the PCB's? Regards, Johns-Arcade. For the 801? Maybe I started the Reg board, but the heatsink is not available The HV board . . . The LOPT is not available. All I can say is never say never. It took me 3 or 4 days to complete the 801 deflection. My first one took 4 weeks. So I may do them, maybe all of them?? Hmm we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 For the 801? Maybe I started the Reg board, but the heatsink is not available The HV board . . . The LOPT is not available. All I can say is never say never. It took me 3 or 4 days to complete the 801 deflection. My first one took 4 weeks. So I may do them, maybe all of them?? Hmm we'll see Well I'd take a couple of each (set) if you did. I wonder how long before the LOPT are available. Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbaz Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Well I'd take a couple of each (set) if you did. I wonder how long before the LOPT are available. Regards, Johns-Arcade. I bought up a box of B&W LOPTs from a Wyse Monitor, as the schematics looked similar, when they arrived I tried to reverse engineer, using one of them as a Guinea pig. But there was a join between windings which didn't belong, and it was too hard to cut the join They were cheap, but no good. Que Sera etc Maybe you can make one ourselves Look at this diagram, the number of turns is printed on the diagram's LOPT http://www.amazingarcading.com.au/G05-801_Schematic_2015-sm.jpg - - - Updated - - - The doubler can be made, someone documented that a few years ago See here http://www.arcadesolution.com/blooming.html - - - Updated - - - The diagram above is from an 801 by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns-Arcade Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I bought up a box of B&W LOPTs from a Wyse Monitor, as the schematics looked similar, when they arrived I tried to reverse engineer, using one of them as a Guinea pig. But there was a join between windings which didn't belong, and it was too hard to cut the join They were cheap, but no good. Que Sera etc Maybe you can make one ourselves Look at this diagram, the number of turns is printed on the diagram's LOPT http://www.amazingarcading.com.au/G05-801_Schematic_2015-sm.jpg - - - Updated - - - The doubler can be made, someone documented that a few years ago See here http://www.arcadesolution.com/blooming.html - - - Updated - - - The diagram above is from an 801 by the way Hmm... would make an interesting project. At least you have the mystery can sorted. Regards, Johns-Arcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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