If at first you don't succeed......

[Crafty]

So after my last build (detailed above in that thread), followed by a divorce, then a games house as a single man, it's now time to again embark on a dedicated games room.

The previous shed was roughly 8m x 5m and this time I'm going with 12m x 9 m. Lucky that my new place has plenty of space.

Delivery included the shed and a new veranda which were installed one week after another, with the shed directly against the veranda.

FYI the veranda is 19m x 7m 

Edited July 19 by Crafty

[Boots]

Looks nice Chris

If you haven’t already planned it, I would highly recommend a kitchenette for the bar and small bathroom with shower in the games room. 

[needlebat]

Lots of space to fill 🙂

[Cursed]

Looks awesome Chris, really hope Moyra and I get to see it one day.

Looking forward to the updates.

7 hours ago, Boots said:

Looks nice Chris

If you haven’t already planned it, I would highly recommend a kitchenette for the bar and small bathroom with shower in the games room. 

I agree with all of that but the shower?

I would rather shower inside my home and if a guest/visitor came to my home needing/wanting a shower I would question their hygiene decisions and general etiquette. 😆

Overnight guests would be different. But again, would shower inside my home.

I could be missing something obvious here so genuine question, I am curious why you need a shower in a games room?

[Autosteve]

No shower but wood fire heater in SA.

Wood fires look cool even when not on.

Looks outstanding by the way @Crafty

[Crafty]

9 hours ago, Autosteve said:

No shower but wood fire heater in SA.

Wood fires look cool even when not on.

Looks outstanding by the way @Crafty

Thx for all the nice comments.

Got heating sorted at my place...

Built a fire pit last weekend and christened it 2 weeks later. Perfect size to dump a pallet into. Also have the Global Warmer which is a combined oven, pizza oven, heater.

Heating/cooling in this shed will eventually be x2 split systems at either end of the long wall. Already wired into the sheds stand alone switch board.

So whilst building a bigger shed seemed like a good idea at the time (as it's effectively almost double my last one), what I didn't consider being the space greedy type was the cost and scale of things. 108 square meter's of concrete. 108 square meter's of insulation to put up...

A special shout out to @kimbleseven just seen in one of the photo's who is a sparky and very good at it. Last count was around 28 double power points on 4 separate circuits to be finally wired in...

[robm]

Looks great mate. Is that the standard way of concreting down south? Build shed first then slab after? I've never seen it done like that. Any shed I've done has been slab and footings combined first then do shed.

 

Enjoy the space!

[Boots]

16 hours ago, Cursed said:

Looks awesome Chris, really hope Moyra and I get to see it one day.

Looking forward to the updates.

I agree with all of that but the shower?

I would rather shower inside my home and if a guest/visitor came to my home needing/wanting a shower I would question their hygiene decisions and general etiquette. 😆

Overnight guests would be different. But again, would shower inside my home.

I could be missing something obvious here so genuine question, I am curious why you need a shower in a games room?

I put one in but I also put in a spare room. It does also future proof the room for other purposes at a later date. 

Things like sleepovers and a later pool install make a shower handy, ours got used during Covid for quarantine. 
Handy if the inside bathroom is out of action or being renovated too.  
Also not really much extra cost while you are going to the trouble of plumbing. 

3 hours ago, robm said:

Looks great mate. Is that the standard way of concreting down south? Build shed first then slab after? I've never seen it done like that. Any shed I've done has been slab and footings combined first then do shed.

 

Enjoy the space!

Much stronger that way

The shed posts are concreted into the ground rather than bolted to the slab. 
It ends up being one big solid piece. 

Edited July 21 by Boots

[Crafty]

9 hours ago, robm said:

Looks great mate. Is that the standard way of concreting down south? Build shed first then slab after? I've never seen it done like that. Any shed I've done has been slab and footings combined first then do shed.

 

Enjoy the space!

Must be. I know there's always debate about this on shed building forums. But I've had multiple sheds built in SA and it's always the same. Shed then concrete. People always say it will rot the tin?? But hasn't happened yet. Plus it's the added bonus of being totally sealed, higher on the inside than outside, and thus water tight in theory

[KJS]

I reckon you'd get corrosion issues eventually up here with that method.

Looks great though crafty.

 

Been building a big shed with my brother last few months, slab went down this week thank god....been a massive job.

 

 

[Crafty]

4 hours ago, KJS said:

Looks great though crafty.

Been building a big shed with my brother last few months, slab went down this week thank god....been a massive job.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thx

Now that's a shed. I would shudder at the cost no doubt.

 

[KJS]

It's actually a barn style house! He has a really nice shed next to it for all his hobbies that I'm jealous of. it's 30x15m, 3 double bays with roller doors either side....would be an awesome pinball heaven. He had a shed company build it and they did an amazing job which you don't seem to.see these days too often.

What are you doing lighting wise in your shed? I have plans ahead for my games room but unfortunately it won't be where we live now......next move!

[kimbleseven]

Looking good mate! Slow and steady. Its a decent size that you wont be able to fill up anytime soon. Such a beautiful location too. Im looking forward to your next meet. I reckon it will be the premium SA meet with room between all your arcades and pinballs not being crammed in.

[Rob1966]

On 21/7/2023 at 7:14 AM, robm said:

Looks great mate. Is that the standard way of concreting down south? Build shed first then slab after? I've never seen it done like that. Any shed I've done has been slab and footings combined first then do shed.

 

Enjoy the space!

Our shed was built the same 

build the shed first then slab gets done later it seals all the weather out a lot better than if the shed was put down on top of an existing slab 

[Crafty]

On 22/07/2023 at 3:47 AM, KJS said:

What are you doing lighting wise in your shed?

So going with my Sparky's recommendation's @kimbleseven

I believe they are called studio lights. There basically big LED platter's about 25cm in diameter. Only 1 cm deep. Being LED there also dim-able and very unobtrusive IMO

There is 8 in there one per side in the 4 bays. Provides great light as there's no window's at all. There hanging by cable ties currently LOL

Edited July 23 by Crafty

[1.21 Gigawatts]

@KJS I like that barn house. Is that a specialised tilt-panel builder? 

[Crafty]

Quick update, well it feels like ages to me. 

Those who have built a games room know the feeling of wanting it done now.....

Anyway a kind neighbour has provided me with a few building materials so, I've experimented with OSB board as a feature wall.

Managed to find a bargain on carpet tiles so really happy with that purchase. Rubber backed so no need for underlay and easy to replace if needed.

Ceiling gyprock is up and the process of flushing has begun. Once the ceiling is flushed it can be painted and, I can start thinking about using the room.

Really leaning towards a black ceiling. My whole entire life ceilings have been painted ceiling white..... Thinking this time something very different?

[needlebat]

White usually gives a feeling of space, but I wonder how well your black will remove reflections - my white ceiling makes playing pinball at some times of day a pain, and filming very difficult with glass on.

[Cursed]

Black all day long mate, it will make the room dark but everything in the room pops!

Miss my all black games room, when we get the chance to insulate and plaster our new games room, I can't see me not going all black again. Except for maybe a feature wall or something like that. Not that I am saying you should do it all black, but I do love what it does to a room. 👍

[rativiv]

if you are looking for an alternative to OSB or gyprock, then you can use Yellow tongue flooring.. it joins together well, and stops drafts between sheets.   I used it in my games room/shed, and it turned out well.   The sheets are long enough to go right to the top of the shed vertically.

[Autosteve]

Yep white sucks. Had my Man cave roof a couple of ways over the years.

It's in unpainted plywood ATM but I went for the timber look this time so happy with that and it's a metal roof and gyprock with metal roof don't mix if you ever intend on walking on the roof which I do.

The metal roof flexes and cracks the gyprock and you are forever repairing cracks.

I don't mind plywood but I've always painted in white.

My efforts to get rid of the white were to absolutely cover the interior of the roof in LED Christmas lights. Literally 1000s of them held up with cup hooks all running different patterns.

Made it look like a fairy land. A lot of people liked that.

I went a natural look before the fairy lights. A couple of hanging pots, not where you'll smash your head into, and had a couple of Devil's Ivy plants in each.

Using cup hooks screwed in the plywood to hold up the long branches as the plants grew.

Took about 6 months and the roof was covered in Devil's Ivy.

This is Devil's Ivy......

Doesn't drop many leaves and pretty hard to kill it.

 

[Crafty]

Ok quick update, as it's taking a long time to do the little things.....

Sanding seems like a never ending task. I probably took on way too much as I was 15 years younger and the shed was a third the size last time LOL

The scaffold helps but the legs are feeling it.

One of the little things as an example is the infill for the c-section. Worth it in the end but sooooo fiddly and time consuming.

Not bad for a nurse who dabbles as a home handyman.

Till next time.

[Autosteve]

Do you want to conceal the "C" channels?

I used Bunnings 150mm X 19mm and 75mm X 19mm pine and used it like this.....

The first 150mm pine goes against the back edge of the "C" channel and 19mm screws hold it in place. These 19mm screws go through the C channel and then into the pine so these screws are concealed.

Once it is held in place, the 75mm pine is screwed to it. Once it is in place, the other 150mm pine attaches to the 75mm and that has the C channel boxed in.

The three pieces of pine box in the C channel like the one in the picture that has the temporary light bulb fitted.

The walls to the ceiling use a piece of 150mm that screw through to the C channel at the top of the walls.

You could attach these walls to roof concealing pieces however you want but I have all the house wiring running through this top C channel and I wanted these quickly removable.

The upright posts I did virtually the same only they use 2 pieces of the 75mm and two of the 150mm as the posts need to be fully boxed in, not just a C shape.

Ended up looking like this....

This picture shows the wall tops, posts and roof beams blocked in....

Was the easiest way I could think of that required the least amount of work. Using 150 and 75mm pine meant no need to trim to size, only length.

Being "finished pine" meant the surface was ready to go with no prep, just paint your colour or in my case clear.

Is this the info you were after?

[Boots]

13 hours ago, Crafty said:

Ok quick update, as it's taking a long time to do the little things.....

Sanding seems like a never ending task. I probably took on way too much as I was 15 years younger and the shed was a third the size last time LOL

The scaffold helps but the legs are feeling it.

One of the little things as an example is the infill for the c-section. Worth it in the end but sooooo fiddly and time consuming.

Not bad for a nurse who dabbles as a home handyman.

Till next time.

 

I did end up concealing my frames using gyprock.

I used scrap colourbond sheeting cut into rectangles and pop riveted to the open side of the c-section to give the gyprock something to glue and screw to.

For the closed side where the bolts are I did a double layer of gyprock to space out over the bolt heads.

Quicker than you think and you can use any thin offcuts of gyprock, this is how I got rid of most of my scrap.

Keep the gaps to a minimum to make the square set flushing easier.

[Crafty]

Nah, I'm just going to paint them roof colour. The feature of the room will be all the games.