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Here's the pile of stuff @Gemini2544 dropped off at my place:

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Pretty rough.

 

I have some Evapo-Rust. Unfortunatelyit's fairly expensive: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/Evapo-Rust-5-Litre/354058

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I have a dip tank for legs:

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In hindsight I should've made it a little longer as frozen levellers make legs not fit.

 

First 2 legs, 48 hours and the levellers came right out:

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Inside still looks a bit shite:

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Second pair of legs went in next, and I didn't think enough about the fact the levellers were frozen and extended. Couldn't get complete coverage and had to use plastic bags and rubber bands to seal the top of the tube. The upside of that is that the leg shows what the evaporust does really well. 24 hours:

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Another 24 hours, realised I could put the long leg that wasn't quite covered upside down... the ones with levelers still attached were the second lot:

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Managed to get one of the levelers out but had to chop and drill the last one.

 

The door was really sad. The chrome or chrome paint was flaking before I did anything to it:

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I don't have a picture of the after, but the chrome came off pretty well entirely. The shooter housing should give you an idea... first pic is 24 hours, second is 48:

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I think the legs could've passed muster, but because the coin entrance, door, etc needed to be painted, the legs needed a bit of paint too so they matched:

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I also did Sky Jump's bits with Evapo-rust. I knocked the really loose stuff off with a wire brush:

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And then soaked... Not sure how long, probably 72 hours because it was cold but I check every 24 hours:

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2 decent front legs and 2 legs to hide at the back.

 

The door came up good:

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I havent used it before, But a bloke I know who also does restorations used it all the time, after coming over and seeing I used Vinegar he gave that a try, he said the results were the same but the price difference was huge, as the evaporust isnt very cheap. especially when he was filling up 30 liter rust baths, and he then changed over to vinegar him self.

I think he said the evaporust was slightly quicker though.

 

Im planning at some time to get some evaporust off him and test it my self along with vinegar and compare, when I do Ill start a thread on it.

 

I know that many of those non toxic Rust killers are just vinegar or sugar based, I dont know what Vapo-rust is though, So im interested to find out I dont think its an acid though?

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I don't think too many restorers would get a corroded situation like what I got on this machine. The results are outstanding & Andrew did an outstanding job fixing what I thought was too far gone. Another pin is saved from the tip & will be appreciated for a long time. Thank you, Andrew..:)
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I havent used it before, But a bloke I know who also does restorations used it all the time, after coming over and seeing I used Vinegar he gave that a try, he said the results were the same but the price difference was huge, as the evaporust isnt very cheap. especially when he was filling up 30 liter rust baths, and he then changed over to vinegar him self.

I think he said the evaporust was slightly quicker though.

 

Im planning at some time to get some evaporust off him and test it my self along with vinegar and compare, when I do Ill start a thread on it.

 

I know that many of those non toxic Rust killers are just vinegar or sugar based, I dont know what Vapo-rust is though, So im interested to find out I dont think its an acid though?

I popped my pH meter in it. It is slightly acidic at 6.1. I have no idea what the chelating agent is - the msds says proprietary.

 

White vinegar is very acidic at 2.5 or so and I've heard reports of it eating more than you want it to.

 

Phosporic acid based products like Ranex Rustbuster are another option. I have not used it but it is marked corrosive. It turns the rust to iron phosphate which prevents further rust. Around the same price as evapo-rust but I think you'd get more bang for buck as it's more concentrated.

 

For legs is probably much of a muchness, but for thinner pieces like the ball guides etc the slow and steady of evapo-rust is an advantage. Also doesn't seem to blacken as much on those.

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I popped my pH meter in it. It is slightly acidic at 6.1. I have no idea what the chelating agent is - the msds says proprietary.

 

White vinegar is very acidic at 2.5 or so and I've heard reports of it eating more than you want it to.

 

Phosporic acid based products like Ranex Rustbuster are another option. I have not used it but it is marked corrosive. It turns the rust to iron phosphate which prevents further rust. Around the same price as evapo-rust but I think you'd get more bang for buck as it's more concentrated.

 

For legs is probably much of a muchness, but for thinner pieces like the ball guides etc the slow and steady of evapo-rust is an advantage. Also doesn't seem to blacken as much on those.

 

Interesting info.

 

I've had good results with carboxylic acid-based rust removers such as oxalic and citric acid. I imagine vinegar (acetic acid) is much the same but a little slower/gentler.

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I popped my pH meter in it. It is slightly acidic at 6.1. I have no idea what the chelating agent is - the msds says proprietary.

 

White vinegar is very acidic at 2.5 or so and I've heard reports of it eating more than you want it to.

 

Phosporic acid based products like Ranex Rustbuster are another option. I have not used it but it is marked corrosive. It turns the rust to iron phosphate which prevents further rust. Around the same price as evapo-rust but I think you'd get more bang for buck as it's more concentrated.

 

For legs is probably much of a muchness, but for thinner pieces like the ball guides etc the slow and steady of evapo-rust is an advantage. Also doesn't seem to blacken as much on those.

 

thanks for the info on the PH, I guess we wont know whats in it then

 

As for the vinegar, Its prety safe, I dont have it eat away good steel and I leave It for many days some times if I forget lol and havent had that problem, I started using vinegar for thin metal as I used to use heavy duty acid baths, but later changed completely to Vinegar for really heavy rust that I used to use the toxic Acids on, as it was safer and cleaner to use Vinegar, and on thin metal it didnt detroy items. However It will eat more than it should if you leave it half submerged it will eat away metal at the water level, but thats with every acid base item so Never have metal items half submerged with any Acid base products always have them completely covered in the solution.

I guess if that doesnt happen with evaporust thats a good thing.

 

As with products like Ranex, I do use that but thats for those really light surface rust on an item where I can wipe it on and wipe it off.

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As with products like Ranex, I do use that but thats for those really light surface rust on an item where I can wipe it on and wipe it off.

Thanks for the info. I'm always hesitant to use something new on pieces I can't replace and it seems everything in pinball is something difficult or impossible or expensive to replace, so good to hear more positives about vinegar.

 

I've often thought about using Ranex as a final step after other rust removal to protect the piece. That should work, right?

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Thanks for the info. I'm always hesitant to use something new on pieces I can't replace and it seems everything in pinball is something difficult or impossible or expensive to replace, so good to hear more positives about vinegar.

 

I've often thought about using Ranex as a final step after other rust removal to protect the piece. That should work, right?

 

No worries, you can always pull the vinegar out of the cupboard when the missus isnt looking at give it a test on an old heavily rusty bolt or something like that and see what you think. Maybe find a peice of thin rusted steel and test it out. Its always good to test things especially if its a product your not familiar with so you can have confidence so like you said you dont have to worry about stuffing up a non replaceable item.

 

And to your question

yer I do use the Ranex that way also for that bit of protection while its still baremetal so it doesn't oxidize after sitting and drying. I personally find it good to give it a wipe of Ranex after its come out of the bath and dried.

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No need to hide my home chemistry from my wife, she knows all the whacky shit I get up to. Eg. Wednesday we get a delivery with dry ice in it so there's usually mess when she gets home from work. :)

 

I usually wax stuff up to protect it, but when the surface is rough you can't buff it and it looks like crap. I'll give the Ranex a go next time.

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No need to hide my home chemistry from my wife, she knows all the whacky shit I get up to. Eg. Wednesday we get a delivery with dry ice in it so there's usually mess when she gets home from work. :)

 

I usually wax stuff up to protect it, but when the surface is rough you can't buff it and it looks like crap. I'll give the Ranex a go next time.

 

Ahaha same with mine lol, My kitchen bench Often looks like a Work bench when she comes home from work, especially when its a really damn hot day and the work shop is to hot and cant resist the airncon in the house, lol

 

Ive built a few performance engines in my lounge room as I thought it was more dust free than My work shop and garage. lol

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We got 20 litres at work of vinegar as playground spraying

 

Local chem place sells bulk

 

Might be a bit stronger than the 99cents for 2 liter Black and gold stuff I use I would imagine?

I have considered trying an industrial Vinegar, have been interested to see how that would go.

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Might be a bit stronger than the 99cents for 2 liter Black and gold stuff I use I would imagine?

I have considered trying an industrial Vinegar, have been interested to see how that would go.

 

Not sure

 

Just says food grade and corrosive ect

 

I might decant some and try next week as going to a farm sale on w.e to dig some rust

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When you talk about Ranex is that the stuff you put on car windscreens as a water repellent, or is it something else with the same name?

 

Rain-X: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/Repellant-Rain-X-Spray-473mL/225395

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Ranex RustBuster:https://www.bunnings.com.au/bondall-250ml-ranex-rustbuster-rust-remover_p1560855

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Another option would be something like Chemtech Rust-off. It's stronger than Ranex (30%-60% vs 10-35% phosphoric acid) but doesn't contain Ferrous Sulphate like the Ranex.: https://www.bunnings.com.au/chemtech-1l-rust-off-rust-remover_p1107356

 

Diggers also have an oxalic acid product: https://www.bunnings.com.au/diggers-2kg-rust-stain-cleaner_p0960276

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I was wondering how well this stuff worked. I tried vinegar for the first time on some coin doors and nuts bolts and clips and was happy with the out come. You can see the results of vinegar in arcade restoration and projects, Arcade restore basic fun build. I have a video at end of thread. 1.50 seconds into vid for coin doors and 6.25 for nuts and bolts. I used the $1.20 vinegar from Aldi.

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Well as it happens I ended up having to clean some legs up this weekend. My old oxalic acid solution was saturated and no longer working well so I was looking for a cheaper alternative. I had some Ranex lying around but after doing a couple of legs I got sick of it and wanted to try another passive solution. I decided to give vinegar a go. Formerly I was placing the legs in a long, flat plastic tub, but this took a lot of solution to immerse the legs. So I grabbed one of these PVC tubes from Bunnings (https://www.bunnings.com.au/holman-100mm-x-1m-pvc-dwv-pipe_p4770090) with two end caps. It fits 4 legs with room to spare and takes 6 litres of vinegar to fill. Total cost of the vinegar was about $6.50. The tube and caps were about $17. Will see how it goes tomorrow, but I am already liking the fact that I can do this all vertically instead of wasting a bunch of storage space under a pin.

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Well as it happens I ended up having to clean some legs up this weekend. My old oxalic acid solution was saturated and no longer working well so I was looking for a cheaper alternative. I had some Ranex lying around but after doing a couple of legs I got sick of it and wanted to try another passive solution. I decided to give vinegar a go. Formerly I was placing the legs in a long, flat plastic tub, but this took a lot of solution to immerse the legs. So I grabbed one of these PVC tubes from Bunnings (https://www.bunnings.com.au/holman-100mm-x-1m-pvc-dwv-pipe_p4770090) with two end caps. It fits 4 legs with room to spare and takes 6 litres of vinegar to fill. Total cost of the vinegar was about $6.50. The tube and caps were about $17. Will see how it goes tomorrow, but I am already liking the fact that I can do this all vertically instead of wasting a bunch of storage space under a pin.

 

How did you go?

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I havent used it before, But a bloke I know who also does restorations used it all the time, after coming over and seeing I used Vinegar he gave that a try, he said the results were the same but the price difference was huge, as the evaporust isnt very cheap. especially when he was filling up 30 liter rust baths, and he then changed over to vinegar him self.

I think he said the evaporust was slightly quicker though.

 

Im planning at some time to get some evaporust off him and test it my self along with vinegar and compare, when I do Ill start a thread on it.

 

I know that many of those non toxic Rust killers are just vinegar or sugar based, I dont know what Vapo-rust is though, So im interested to find out I dont think its an acid though?

 

And you can put it on your chips

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How did you go?

 

Not bad. The rust hadn't actually come off the legs but had been weakened to a point that it wiped off easily. The result was basically the same as if you sat and wiped them down with a rust remover. But it weakened the rust considerably so it was worthwhile I reckon.

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Not bad. The rust hadn't actually come off the legs but had been weakened to a point that it wiped off easily. The result was basically the same as if you sat and wiped them down with a rust remover. But it weakened the rust considerably so it was worthwhile I reckon.

 

yer fair enough, If you left it longer it would all just wipe off including deep rust, But If you can get away with leaving it in less time on plated legs that would be ideal I guess.

 

Glad it worked for you.

 

also If you have read any where about Vinegar being one time use,Ignore that, you can keep it for a long time and use it many times over no matter if it looks terrible and black, it still works great.

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