dragonlee Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Gday Guys i found a memo of what the pinball were selling back in the 80's to operators. Big different in prices back then to compare what they are worth at the current market now...:lol Ps excuse fingers in the photos...:lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 for a time when joker poker cost less than middle earth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Slayer- Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Still big bucks I'm sure for what people would have been earning back in the 80's :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Do you have a definite date on these? We could adjust for inflation using the rba calculator: https://www.rba.gov.au/calculator/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlee Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 Do you have a definite date on these? We could adjust for inflation using the rba calculator: https://www.rba.gov.au/calculator/ 1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 $1 on 1979 is $4.6468 in 2017, so multiply all those prices by roughly 4.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORGAR 1 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Pinball prices Similar to today’s prices for a LE is the Globetrotters [emoji1] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Bumper Pete Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I remember going into the distributors when Fireball II came out cost was 4 old games and $2200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Similar to today’s prices for a LE is the Globetrotters [emoji1] And a used Kiss in 1979 cost ~$11,849.37 in 2017 dollars. The other thing to keep in mind is that it was what? 20 cents a game? That's $1.85 or so these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Bumper Pete Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 yeah, but by 1984, these old Ballys were only $500 each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toads Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Gday Guys Ps excuse fingers in the photos...:lol Is your real name Homer Simpson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 yeah, but by 1984, these old Ballys were only $500 eachSo around $1500 these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn70 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Yes all relative I guess. 1979 - new machine was $2650 ($12,314 today) 2018 - new machine $8350/$8450 (Stern Pro) That's not bad at all. More than happy to pay this for a new Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob-A-Tron Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 No GST in 1979 also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 No GST in 1979 also was there sales tax then? ( like officially, if you were that one operator one time who didnt pay in 20c coins) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angs1957 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Still looks like that in 2018 that's still a lot of meat on those prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1966 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 No matter which way you paint it today’s prices are still f@#ked up especially when some 90s Bally / Williams machines are double the price of a new Stern Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 so? a 70s monaro is how many times the price of a new commodore? its how collectibles work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1966 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Yeah like I said it’s f@#ked up Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Bumper Pete Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 EDIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Yeah like I said it’s f@#ked up maybe true.. its pretty good for the people who own them though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotty Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 The values we place on these items is inflated. For some it's the price of entertainment, for others its an income. Either way with limited stock and high demand come expensive pinballs as income is no longer derived soley from onsite operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autosteve Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Yes all relative I guess. 1979 - new machine was $2650 ($12,314 today) 2018 - new machine $8350/$8450 (Stern Pro) That's not bad at all. More than happy to pay this for a new Pro. $2650 for a machine in 1979 that made you $200 in 20cent pieces a week so 13 weeks and it has paid for itself as opposed to today $8350 for a machine that is prominently made for the home market that in the home market will never make $200 in it's life. That is the BIG difference. In 1979 they were a money making machine making you profit after around 4 months. Big difference a machine making money like a poker machine as opposed to a piece of entertainment furniture for a house. You really need to compare what a new Stern would earn today per week if it was sited, and how long it would take to pay for itself and also take into consideration it is now $1 per play. 2nd hand pinballs in those days had paid back the owner many times over but these days machine never pay for themselves therefore when the owner these days sells a machine he is after his money back. My argument is if today's machines aren't machines to "print money" any longer, why would the price be of current machines be so high in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 You really need to compare what a new Stern would earn today per week if it was sited, and how long it would take to pay for itself and also take into consideration it is now $1 per play. Every new stern I've seen on site has been $2 a play. My argument is if today's machines aren't machines to "print money" any longer, why would the price be of current machines be so high in the first place? I don't follow your logic. Just because it isn't made to print money anymore doesn't mean it costs less to produce. I'd argue the opposite, because return on investment is no longer the driver for the majority of purchasers, the driver for the manufacturer to keep the price low is gone. When Williams, Bally, Gottlieb were all vying for the operator dollar they had to be able to show that the machine could pay for itself quicker than their competitors. Now it just has to look pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autosteve Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Every new stern I've seen on site has been $2 a play. I don't follow your logic. Just because it isn't made to print money anymore doesn't mean it costs less to produce. I'd argue the opposite, because return on investment is no longer the driver for the majority of purchasers, the driver for the manufacturer to keep the price low is gone. I would argue it is substantially cheaper to produce a pinball these days. In the 70s there was no China making parts cheap. All parts were totally American made using American wood, American steel, American electronics. Simply changing to LEDs made by Sun Nong King as opposed to light bulbs made by General Electric is a massive saving. Wood made in Indonesian is substantially cheaper than American forest sourced wood. Electronics made in China is substantially cheaper than Silicon Valley sourced parts. LCD displays made in China are substantially cheaper than custom plasma displays made in America by companies like Honeywell. Modern pinballs are the price they are because they know they can get away with that price they charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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