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Pinball Arcade: From 30/06/18 no Bally or Williams machines available to purchase


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From http://pinballarcadefans.com/showthread.php/13254-Official-Announcement :

Our longstanding licenses for the Williams and Bally pinball trademarks will finally come to an end on June 30th, 2018. Therefore, after this date tables from these manufacturers will no longer be offered for sale within the Pinball Arcade. However, customers who purchased any of these tables prior to the deadline will continue to own them and have access to them within the Pinball Arcade, and we will continue to support them as we do the other tables in our collection. This change will affect all of our devices and platforms.

 

So if you’ve ever been interested in owning these great tables, please purchase them now, before they disappear!

 

FarSight will continue to release new tables for the Pinball Arcade. We are excited to announce that Season 8 will launch later this summer and will feature all of the recent Stern tables in Stern Pinball Arcade along with several new tables.

 

We’d like to sincerely thank all of our customers and fans over the past decade. Your amazing support of our game has helped build the Pinball Arcade into the greatest pinball simulation of all time. Pinball forever!

 

Podcast material for @Ryza and @Martymainframe if the Heighway stuff goes quiet?

 

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and an FAQ http://pinballarcadefans.com/showthread.php/13255-Williams-Bally-Table-Announcement-FAQ :

1. Why has the license not been renewed? Whose decision was it?

The company that controls the WMS IP chose not to renew our agreement.

 

2. When will the Williams/Bally tables stop being sold?

June 30th

 

3. Will there be discounts on the tables before the contract expires? If not, why?

No, our agreement with WMS prohibits there being any sales on their tables before we have to take them off the market.

 

4. Will there be any updates/bug fixes for the tables before/after the contract expires?

Yes, we will continue to support all of the tables in Pinball Arcade.

 

5. What will happen to the tables that are already owned (or unlocked, as with the Kickstarter rewards) once the contract expires?

Everyone who owns a WMS table will still own it, and have full access to it. We will modify the game via updates before June 30th on each platform so that players can no longer buy WMS tables if they haven’t already. In most cases, if you don’t own a WMS you won’t be able to see that table in the game at all.

 

6. Would future hardware (iPhones/iPads, Android devices) be updated to allow the Williams/Bally tables to work correctly, or will there be a time when these are completely unplayable?

We will continue to support all of the tables in Pinball Arcade for customers who bought them. This includes support for users who need to re-download tables they’ve already bought.

 

7. With the loss of the Williams/Bally tables, what's the future of the app? Will we see it continued with new non-Williams/Bally tables?

Our “Season 8” release will include all of the Stern tables that we’ve done to date for SPA plus a couple more. We will continue to develop and release non-WMS tables. Once the WMS tables are removed from sale, the remaining tables for sale in the game (Stern, Gottlieb, and Alvin G) will be restructured into different packs based primarily on the table manufacture.

 

8. What's happening with the staff at FarSight? Will there be layoffs?

There are no plans to lay off any FarSight staff.

 

9. Is FarSight working on other projects?

Yes, in addition to developing many more digital versions of Stern tables, more Gottlieb tables, possibly more tables from other manufactures, and an awesome 2D pinball experience for mobile, we’re working on a couple new cross-platform games that are yet to be officially announced – primarily for console.

 

10. This sucks, right?

We are very disappointed by the WMS license holder’s decision – so it’s not great. But we’ll be working to enhance the players’ enjoyment of all of the tables in Pinball Arcade for years to come.

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Arcooda Pinball Arcade Software

 

Our sister company (ARCOODA) has been working with FarSight for the past 2 years developing full sized video pinball software, and its very sad news that the licenses have been lost. This affects us also as we were working with FarSight for the entire WMS/Bally library with the hope of having all games available on plug and play basis on full sized video pinball machines.

 

We do not believe they lost the licenses due to Nintendo Switch, but more due to another party wanting the licenses for themselves (for the ability of releasing a full sized machine). We will see how it all plays out over these next months.

 

In any case, Arcooda will make some announcements tomorrow evening about cabinet support for PC Steam users (anyone who owns Pinball Arcade), as well as the standalone Arcooda Pinball Arcade software (for use on your own virtual/video pinball, or, on the deluxe Arcooda video pinball machines. If anyone is interested in this software, please follow Arcooda on social media or http://www.arcooda.com

 

Arcooda is in the same position, all sales must be finalised by 30th June 2018.

 

 

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Fair enough. I was just going from other people connecting a facebook post from PBA on the 7th to the ( https://www.facebook.com/pinballarcade/posts/1791386990882353) more recent annoucement today. Seemed to make sense that the license might be terminated or not renewed for something like that. Occam's Razor etc. Edited by ajfclark
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We'll as someone who knows the ins and outs of wms licensing, money is not the only thing the rights owners are concerned with, bally is owned by a 3rd party so if something is done outside permission that also has an affect on wms rights owners.
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This is a real bummer.

 

The whole draw of PBA was that you could play machines that were not readily available to play in the wild. Stern machines are a lot more common so there's not much point having them on PBA if I can play them locally. WMS machines are a different matter...

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This is a real bummer.

 

The whole draw of PBA was that you could play machines that were not readily available to play in the wild. Stern machines are a lot more common so there's not much point having them on PBA if I can play them locally. WMS machines are a different matter...

 

100% - I guess I need to figure out what to buy before it no longer becomes an option. Part of me feels like not buying anything more though...

 

 

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Not sure what to make of Highway saying the licence holder wants to make a full size machine, that being VP or real physical remakes?

 

I guess nothing stopping them from making new machines under Williams brand or sti brand, not remakes

but new machines if they wanted to

 

The gaming machine business has been crap the past few years

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Arcooda have today announced the release of 3 versions of their Arcooda Pinball Arcade software enabling;

 

- Pinball Arcade Steam owners to upgrade their software to "cabinet support" with 3 screen game play

- Standalone software package, install on your own generic/video pinball machine

- Arcooda deluxe software package, with advanced features only suitable for the Arcooda video pinball

 

 

For more information, please view;

 

https://www.arcoodapinballarcade.com

 

 

Due to the loss of the Williams/Bally license, the software offer will expire on 30th June 2018.

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Arcooda have today announced the release of 3 versions of their Arcooda Pinball Arcade software enabling;

 

- Pinball Arcade Steam owners to upgrade their software to "cabinet support" with 3 screen game play

- Standalone software package, install on your own generic/video pinball machine

- Arcooda deluxe software package, with advanced features only suitable for the Arcooda video pinball

 

 

For more information, please view;

 

https://www.arcoodapinballarcade.com

 

 

Due to the loss of the Williams/Bally license, the software offer will expire on 30th June 2018.

 

 

Does '3 screen play' include support for dedicated DMD's like Pin2DMD ?

 

I'm interested, but after looking at that link - $200 bucks for cabinet support for TPA :o

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Does '3 screen play' include support for dedicated DMD's like Pin2DMD ?

 

I'm interested, but after looking at that link - $200 bucks for cabinet support for TPA :o

 

It does not included DMD support at the moment, but will recheck with FarSight if we can solve within the deadline.

 

Please note, virtually all software was written from scratch to add backglass, DMD, new camera angles and other refinements for full video pinball game play. These features are being sold at $1.96usd per table.

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