gapmaster Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) What is going on with these flippers? This is happening when its turned on just sitting there or when you push the start button and fire her up. I am not touching the flipper buttons for this to happen. aka George Edited August 19, 2018 by gapmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Boof Head Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I’m interested in this also as my friend has s ToM doing the same thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Defender Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Indy gets jealous of STTNG when she needs attention. I told everyone that Aliens were here? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Michi Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Cosmic rays, for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ocyen Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Was it flipper button activations that were making them move, or were they moving on their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gapmaster Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Was it flipper button activations that were making them move, or were they moving on their own?Moving on their own. aka George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 oldhank Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Maybe its haunted lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Boof Head Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) Indy gets jealous of STTNG when she needs attention. I found some footage of the ToM. https://youtu.be/ydohUsMIZvw Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited August 20, 2018 by Boof Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TUF-427 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Must be the result of an Anxiety Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gapmaster Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Must be the result of an Anxiety Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProIs that a direct quote from Mad Max? aka George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TUF-427 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Is that a direct quote from Mad Max? aka George Indeed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 razorsedge Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 What is going on with these flippers? This is happening when its turned on just sitting there or when you push the start button and fire her up. I am not touching the flipper buttons for this to happen. aka George The left flipper looks like hold voltage, kindof. Noticing when the right flipper tweaks is tied to the left flipper creeping up, right flipper also looks like some kind of "surge" into the hold voltage. What makes it a bit weird is no button activations? . Something's crossed up somewhere... - - - Updated - - - I found some footage of the ToM. https://youtu.be/ydohUsMIZvw Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not the same thing but in many ways something similar. This looks more like simulataneous (to both flippers) Hi Power, short pulses. - - - Updated - - - I have a similar (yet many ways different) issue to solve with my Getaway atm... Unlike both of these it is in attract mode as well, also unlike both of these it is happening from button presses. My first thought for my problem was diodes, but not conclusive enough to go changing them all yet (diodes all look fine on inspection, none cracked) When in attract mode holding a flipper button (either) makes that flipper "creep" up (both only if both are pressed)... happens basically the same degree to both flippers. When playing and Both flippers are activated Sometimes Both stay up, then drop after a while. But in gameplay this never happens using one flipper at a time. I have several suspicions, but the next thing I am going to do is try an alternate Fliptronics board to see how that will affect the issue. For the Getaway it Seems like the hold voltage could be elevated for some reason. As far as I'm aware hold voltage is active during attract mode but not usually enough to make the flippers move... Could be a few different possibilities for the cause. My flippers also surge a little as they creep up (while button held in attract mode). Wondering about all sorts of causes, even maybe some shorted windings in a flipper coil.... They all have one thing in common, very unusual faulty flipper behaviour. Going to be getting in to troubleshooting my Getraway problem tomorrow I hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Boof Head Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I’ll add to the ToM problem that the fliptronic board was replaced with a known working one and no change. The footage shows a lot of dual flips but the left one actually does it by itself a fair bit, just didn’t capture it. Have you tried another board in yours @gapmaster ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pinmike Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Disconnect the flipper opto boards and see if the flippers still twitch, looks like a flipper opto is dirty or 12v to opto problem to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gapmaster Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Disconnect the flipper opto boards and see if the flippers still twitch, looks like a flipper opto is dirty or 12v to opto problem to me.I'll have a look tonight when I home but from memory the opto boards have been removed. aka George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 razorsedge Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 It isn't quite the same as any of these problems, but similar enough that it might be helpful somehow... https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tech-tz-flipper-flutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pinmike Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I'll have a look tonight when I home but from memory the opto boards have been removed. aka George The opto's at the flipper buttons? have they been replaced with contact switch's? Are there any Mod's using the 12v supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 razorsedge Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Here's a vid of the Getaway... Both flipper buttons held in the entire duration of the video. If buttons are not pressed there is no issues in attract mode, but when playing occasionally the flippers would stay up for a moment when both flippers were pressed at the same time. I checked over coils again before changing out the Fliptronics board, replacing the board solved all behavior issues. Now need to go over the offending board to see what I can find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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What is going on with these flippers?
This is happening when its turned on just sitting there or when you push the start button and fire her up.
I am not touching the flipper buttons for this to happen.
aka George
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