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Thread: WPC Alpha: DMD or Solid State era?

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    WPC Alpha: DMD or Solid State era?

    Usually people split games up into eras based on the technology they use and the WPC-Alpha boardset is right on the cusp, still having alphanumeric displays like System 11c, but having the boards, processing power, etc of the later WPC DMD machines.

    There's 3 machines that used the WPC Alphanumeric boardset: https://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?searc...dvanced&mpu=10

    Funhouse (late 1990)
    Bride of Pinbot (1991)
    Harley-Davidson (1991)
    (and a Dr Dude prototype?)

    And then the DMD era proper starts with T2 (mid-1991) etc?

    Dr Dude (system 11c):
    Dr Dude (WPC prototype):
    Funhouse:
    T2:

    Do you consider Funhouse, Bride of Pinbot and Harley-Davidson "solid state" or "DMD" era machines?
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    Solid state.

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    WPC Alpha Numeric
    I believe Gilligans Island was the first Bally DMD to hit the market before T2 but definitely DE holds the title of first DMD pinball on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotty View Post
    WPC Alpha Numeric
    I believe Gilligans Island was the first Bally DMD to hit the market before T2 but definitely DE holds the title of first DMD pinball on the market.
    Correct, Gilligan's is May, T2 is July 1991.

    And yes, Checkpoint from DE in February 1991.

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    None of the above

    Early Solid State (games not much removed from EM)
    Second generation Solid State, (1979 on, games started having interesting rules and light shows)
    Alpha Numeric
    DMD
    LCD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pop Bumper Pete View Post
    None of the above

    Early Solid State (games not much removed from EM)
    Second generation Solid State, (1979 on, games started having interesting rules and light shows)
    Alpha Numeric
    DMD
    LCD
    I don't really understand the solid state terminology given that SS, early SS, late SS, DMD, LCD, etc they're all solid state machines. I've heard SS used to refer to everything pre DMD as a group, but Ok then Alpha numeric or DMD?

    Does the display really change the game that much (given most of the time I never seem to be able to look at it anyway) or is it the capabilities of the hardware underneath?
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    Solid State is anything that is a semiconductor, basically in Pinball Terms after EM machines. The use of transistors replaced relays, in jukebox terms the transistor replaced the valves used in the amplifiers. The only thing that changed in pinball generations apart from solid state technology was how the scores are displayed. eg score reels driven by solenoinds and steppers, then CRT 6-9 digit displays, then Alpha numeric displays, then DMD using a matrix to display animations and now LCD. The rest is still switches, soleniods and headaches.

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    Do you think you could fit the rules of Iron Maiden into a System 11?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajfclark View Post
    Do you think you could fit the rules of Iron Maiden into a System 11?
    Why? Re-Theme? I doubt it with the Sys 11 OS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotty View Post
    Why? Re-Theme? I doubt it with the Sys 11 OS.
    So something else must have changed besides just the way the scores are displayed?
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