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NBA Jam not working in cabinet


rishgoon

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Hello

 

I am a bit stumped with this one. I picked up a TMNT style four player cabinet recently that had Wrestlefest in it. As I want to convert the cabinet to an NBA Jam, I picked up an NBA Jam pcb. Figuring it would be a straight swap out, although I would have to add an extra button to each player.

 

However, although I get a red light on the pcb, I get nothing on my monitor. I put Wrestlefest back in, works fine. I stuck a Pandoras Box 4 in, works fine. I tried NBA Jam in my Mortal Kombat cabinet, and works fine... I've cleaned the Jamma rails as best I can but it still won't work in this particular cabinet..

 

I thought it could possibly be a short or bad connection on my jamma harness, but it doesn't appear so ( I may be wrong ).

 

I haven't spent as much time as I'd like fault finding it yet, but thought I'd ask the question here in case anyone has had a similar issue.

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Sounds like maybe a sensitive 5v issue as mentioned. Do you have a multimeter, you could test both machines voltage and compare. Also just a random guess, but does NBA need -5volt and if it does, do both cabinet psu's have it?

I ask because i saw this

https://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/List_of_JAMMA_PCB's_that_require_-5_volts

 

Does mortal kombat pcb work in the 4 player cab?

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Thanks everyone. Turned up the voltage a touch and it worked :D

 

I haven't even connected the sound board yet, and not sure if cabinet power supply has -5v or not, I'll keep in mind... My time in shed is very limited at the moment with a baby in the house :)

 

Thanks again

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Thanks everyone. Turned up the voltage a touch and it worked :D

 

I haven't even connected the sound board yet, and not sure if cabinet power supply has -5v or not, I'll keep in mind... My time in shed is very limited at the moment with a baby in the house :)

 

Thanks again

 

Good to hear. It also uses a little more with the sound board connected so see how you go and crank it up as needed.

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Alright friends? Moving at a snails pace with the limited time I have to work on this cabinet, but slowly getting there.

 

My newest obstacle, is the turbo input being constantly on. I thought most likely a short, but my meter shows open all the way from the switch back to the board. So I would say a board fault, but does anyone have any ideas?

 

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All controls are pulled high constantly and activate when grounded. If a button is always active, then it's always grounded.

Eliminate your cabinet wiring 100% to be sure it's a board issue. If it is the board then possibly a resistor on that line.

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All controls are pulled high constantly and activate when grounded. If a button is always active, then it's always grounded.

Eliminate your cabinet wiring 100% to be sure it's a board issue. If it is the board then possibly a resistor on that line.

 

Hey mate thanks for your reply. The more I think about it, the more I think it is a board problem. I mean, if I test on the switch with wires still attached, at Common (ground) and my normally open contact (input) I'm still getting an open circuit, even though the button is showing as 'active' on the test screen...

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I'm not the brightest spark sometimes. I swapped board over into a different cab, and sure enough, turbo isn't sticking.

 

But it does seem strange to me. So it's some part of my wiring/harness, but why isn't my meter picking up the short between the input and ground :unsure

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Disconnect the board then measure between that input connector on the edge and ground (with the board powered off). If its a dead short there then it is a board fault, usually a pretty simple one in the rare cases you see this.
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Disconnect the board then measure between that input connector on the edge and ground (with the board powered off). If its a dead short there then it is a board fault, usually a pretty simple one in the rare cases you see this.

 

Confident it isn't the board now, swapped it into my MK cab and seems to work fine.

 

Thinking aloud (or at least in text form), with board unplugged, I tested for a short between input and ground at the switch, but not at the other end. Now I'm thinking I have no continuity between input at switch and other end.... hence why my meter wouldn't pick up the short. I wish I wasn't at work so I could check :cry

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Last nights ten minute shift findings:

I indeed don't have continuity between input at switch end and harness plug end. I found the end of the input, and it had a ring terminal and wasn't connected to anything, just bunched in with the rest of the wires. So I haven't found my short yet, but this is certainly strange.

 

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That's a ground wire. You're not being very clear with your discoveries.

From the JAMMA connector, just trace whatever wire is used for for the turbo button back and see where it goes. Wherever it goes, connect it to the switch.

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That's a ground wire. You're not being very clear with your discoveries.

From the JAMMA connector, just trace whatever wire is used for for the turbo button back and see where it goes. Wherever it goes, connect it to the switch.

 

Fair call.

I should mention, when I picked up cabinet, it had Wrestlefest in it. I believe it is an LAI blue TMNT 4 player cabinet. So each player only had two buttons. The green wire I showed above, wasn't terminated, and there was one for each player. I presumed, without testing, that this was for an additional button for each player, and wired accordingly. Being green, not black, I didn't consider that it would be a ground wire.

 

I'm slowly getting my head around what I'm doing, I do appreciate your help.

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I'm not the brightest spark sometimes. I swapped board over into a different cab, and sure enough, turbo isn't sticking.

 

But it does seem strange to me. So it's some part of my wiring/harness, but why isn't my meter picking up the short between the input and ground :unsure

 

This fault has popped up again. Turbo pulls in a moment after I press Pass. And it is a definite board fault as happens when I put board into different cabinets. I'd like to try fix myself, but more likely will take to Jomac to sus out I think.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!Al3rNrbrqVzCh2NlstGIZyba1P6O

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