Gemini2544 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) Since fully LEDing up my Pin*bot, now Indiana Jones & Black Rose will have to be done too. PIN*BOT looks soooo! good, all the other machines look dull & uninteresting. Anyone else had this issue? :blink: Edited March 14, 2016 by Darksoul typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryza Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Everyone. LEDs under inserts is a must! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridgejam Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Since fully LEDing up my Pin*bot, now Indiana Jones & Black Rose will have to be done too. PIN*BOT looks soooo! good, all the other machines look dull & uninteresting. Anyone else had this issue? :blink: It is a problem, but you think that's bad, try putting a colored DMD and see how you feel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini2544 Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 It is a problem, but you think that's bad, try putting a colored DMD and see how you feel... My I.J is ColorDMD but they haven't done a Black-Rose yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalthrashinmad Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I agree, love the LED look, on newer machines. Polish and wax the playfield, clean the inserts add LED's looks amazing. If you really want it to pop, new playfield glass too. But you will need a bottomless wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 What are incandescents? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett2280 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 What are incandescents? Lol Those things we have thousands of in drawers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioBa Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Those things we have thousands of in drawers.. I know I will never ever use them again - but I just can't throw them away. Am I a closet hoarder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotty Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 No I too have the same issue so is now the time to confess? I cant let go of my globes!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angs1957 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Depends on the machine, if you remember the old school look of these machines with the lights the way they were you still had hours of enjoyment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANT68 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I won't use LED's in my Wedge Heads or wood rail , they just don't look right . You loose the nostalgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joele Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Mine are all full of LEDs even in the backboxes and flashers (though took a few tries to fin ones that look just right)... Some with ColorDMD, mine are now all done, once you start it is bloody hard to stop, still in the process of upgrading speakers and subs, less obvious but worth doing too... I have avoided pinsound as I know once I do one I will have to do them all.. sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioBa Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I won't use LED's in my Wedge Heads or wood rail , they just don't look right . You loose the nostalgia. What about some nice "warm white" twin leds with serrated cap. Lots of sparkle like with incandescent but still a warm glow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini2544 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 I cant let go of my globes!!!!! Hang onto them, In 50 years they will be as dear as Vacuum valves are today.. :lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod71 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 What about some nice "warm white" twin leds with serrated cap. Lots of sparkle like with incandescent but still a warm glow. Do you have a comparison shot?. Have never seen a led look remotely like an incandescent. Some of them get close with the warmth, but lack the dispersion and look spotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioBa Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 These are the leds I'm talking about. The serrated cap gives them a nice "sparkle" and they are available in warm white. I will see if I can do some shots but it is hard to do photos of lamps (led or incandesent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod71 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 These are the leds I'm talking about. The serrated cap gives them a nice "sparkle" and they are available in warm white. I will see if I can do some shots but it is hard to do photos of lamps (led or incandesent). [ATTACH=CONFIG]90408[/ATTACH] You don't really need to take pics of the lamps themselves. How about an overhead shot of a game with the glass off, at night, and focusing on the lower 1/3 of the playfield. Interesting to see how they compare in throwing the light outwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toads Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 You don't really need to take pics of the lamps themselves. How about an overhead shot of a game with the glass off, at night, and focusing on the lower 1/3 of the playfield. Interesting to see how they compare in throwing the light outwards. And while your at it, put a couple of inky's in for comparasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod71 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 And while your at it, put a couple of inky's in for comparasion Yep, thats the idea. 2 identical pics, one with the leds he is speaking of, and the other with inky's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOKERPOKER Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I thought I prefered incs in omy old EM games but when I trialled a few in the gi's I was hooked and ended up using them everywhere. Just lifts them. My Joker Poker looked fantastic after I'd finished. I know some prefer globes but the new led technology brightens some of the old playfields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narf_ Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Hang onto them, In 50 years they will be as dear as Vacuum valves are today.. :lol Lol mate bought a big box of new old stock valves few months ago for SFA as no one wanted them not even me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioBa Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) You don't really need to take pics of the lamps themselves. How about an overhead shot of a game with the glass off, at night, and focusing on the lower 1/3 of the playfield. Interesting to see how they compare in throwing the light outwards. OK have done the exercise with a ToM. A machine in which I like not to go too cold bright white. First picture: left side incandesent and right side warm white twins - - - Updated - - - WARM WHITE TWIN LED - - - Updated - - - Incandesent lamps Led is definitely brighter but colour is almost the same. Biggest improvement is that plastics look much better. This is caused by having a lense on top of the led improving upward light with the side serrations giving surround sparkle. I know that for nostalgic reasons some still might prefer incandesent lamps but objectively there is no question that these leds give your machine a better look. Edited March 13, 2016 by BioBa change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dloe007 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Wish I had this problem lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod71 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 OK have done the exercise with a ToM. A machine in which I like not to go too cold bright white. First picture: left side incandesent and right side warm white twins [ATTACH=CONFIG]90422[/ATTACH] - - - Updated - - - [ATTACH=CONFIG]90423[/ATTACH] WARM WHITE TWIN LED - - - Updated - - - Incandesent lamps [ATTACH=CONFIG]90426[/ATTACH] Led is definitely brighter but colour is almost the same. Biggest improvement is that plastics look much better. This is caused by having a lense on top of the led improving upward light with the side serrations giving surround sparkle. I know that for nostalgic reasons some still might prefer incandesent lamps but objectively there is no question that these leds give your machine a better look. Wow, was interested in the dispersion, and the leds look to cover that very well!. Colour temp seems to be very close indeed. Yes they look brighter, but it looks like you lose detail on the plastics because they are so bright. But I reckon thats more to do with the camera. So would you say from an overhead viewpoint, the plastics look sharper?. Wonder how these perform in say a late 70's backglass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini2544 Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 Lol mate bought a big box of new old stock valves few months ago for SFA as no one wanted them not even me lol I know people that still use them, Don't chuck them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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