pauloz Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 are you looking at the site through your browser or tapatalk? Safari. Same as always but now I get a v bulletin header and everything's changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Arcade King Posted August 11, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted August 11, 2017 Safari. Same as always but now I get a v bulletin header and everything's changed. I'm not familiar with Safari but there has to be a way to flush cookies etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauloz Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm not familiar with Safari but there has to be a way to flush cookies etc. All sorted. Turned my phone off and back on and site is back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmpinballing Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 So that turn it off and on joke about the IT stuff is real?? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauloz Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 So that turn it off and on joke about the IT stuff is real?? :) It is with iPhones. Sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toads Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 So that turn it off and on joke about the IT stuff is real?? :) We used to call this an advanced problem solving technique :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorsedge Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 My note2 tuned in to the "mobile site" a couple of times. Sounds a bit like the issue described. I use android internet browser. To solve I just pressed the "full site" link at bottom of page, and all was back to how it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 We used to call this an advanced problem solving technique :) I used to call it "master reset". The other good one was "Layer 1 protocol error" which meant a network cable was not plugged in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I don't think having HTTPS ensures your site wont get hacked anyway. It will only encrypt traffic between the browser and the server. It does not affect how data is stored at either end. eg. you could submit you password via HTTPS and it'd be encrypted during transit to the server, but that wouldn't stop the server then storing it as a plain text record somewhere. HTTPS does mean certificates, which means that there's some authentication of the server end for the client (if anyone ever looks at the certificates). It also means that devices like corporate firewalls or malware cannot undetectably monitor or modify the traffic as the certificates must be changed. It does mean browsers will treat scripts loaded by pages differently (ie scripts must be loaded over https). Google is pushing pretty hard for everyone to move to HTTPS, including publishing that they treat HTTPS sites better in search results (they don't normally discus what ranks well). Given the low cost of certificates these days (starting at free), the general speed of webservers meaning the additional overheads of encryption are minimal, I think the benefits outweigh the negatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Arcade King Posted August 29, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2017 It will only encrypt traffic between the browser and the server. It does not affect how data is stored at either end. eg. you could submit you password via HTTPS and it'd be encrypted during transit to the server, but that wouldn't stop the server then storing it as a plain text record somewhere. HTTPS does mean certificates, which means that there's some authentication of the server end for the client (if anyone ever looks at the certificates). It also means that devices like corporate firewalls or malware cannot undetectably monitor or modify the traffic as the certificates must be changed. It does mean browsers will treat scripts loaded by pages differently (ie scripts must be loaded over https). Google is pushing pretty hard for everyone to move to HTTPS, including publishing that they treat HTTPS sites better in search results (they don't normally discus what ranks well). Given the low cost of certificates these days (starting at free), the general speed of webservers meaning the additional overheads of encryption are minimal, I think the benefits outweigh the negatives. Its the time it takes to implement that's the problem on old forum software like this. I've looked at alternative software like Xenforo however I found out things like subscriptions don't get imported which means manually doing it which again means time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Its the time it takes to implement that's the problem on old forum software like this. I've looked at alternative software like Xenforo however I found out things like subscriptions don't get imported which means manually doing it which again means time. Depending on what platform you're running on, it shouldn't require any changes to the bulletin board software at all. Last one I shunted to https was an apache site which took about 15 minutes. Ran it in parallel on port 443 with the normal site on port 80 for a week or too to test, then put the permanent redirect from 80 to 443 in later. Even if it's not doable directly, it might be doable as a reverse proxy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Arcade King Posted August 29, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2017 Depending on what platform you're running on, it shouldn't require any changes to the bulletin board software at all. Last one I shunted to https was an apache site which took about 15 minutes. Ran it in parallel on port 443 with the normal site on port 80 for a week or too to test, then put the permanent redirect from 80 to 443 in later. Even if it's not doable directly, it might be doable as a reverse proxy? It is doable its just not high priority right now. I've discussed this with @Brad 6 months ago and is something that will eventually get implemented in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 It is doable its just not high priority right now. I've discussed this with @Brad 6 months ago and is something that will eventually get implemented in the near future. Totally understand. There's probably not a huge amount of benefit to be had here until Google start changing their icon for every HTTP site to a big red "INSECURE" icon. Similarly, I have loads of stuff on my back burner that I'll get to once I get time or it becomes important enough. I often say that once it's on the to-do list it does get done, though possibly not before my wife buys me this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Arcade King Posted August 29, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2017 Yeah I just need to have a chat to people who are more knowledgeable on such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapGo Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 this may be a useful page to ease the switch to https: https://certbot.eff.org/#debianwheezy-apache im involved with an org thats testing this script and free certificate and it seems to be going well... jinxed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Arcade King Posted January 5, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 5, 2019 I've been putting this off for a long time however over the next few hours I will be updating AA to the last version of Vbulletin 4.2.5 which supports PHP 7.1 so just a heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozfalcon Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Doom to follow shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfclark Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I've been putting this off for a long time however over the next few hours I will be updating AA to the last version of Vbulletin 4.2.5 which supports PHP 7.1 so just a heads up.Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozfalcon Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Havn't noticed any disruptions. Must have been successful. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Arcade King Posted January 6, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 6, 2019 Havn't noticed any disruptions. Must have been successful. :cool: Not yet. Ran into some issues. I'll have another go tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgra79 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 oh is that why I couldn't get in yesterday? Is It Down sites saying it was just me, but I wasn't sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Arcade King Posted January 8, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 8, 2019 Forum updated to 4.2.5 and seems to be running nice and quick with PHP 7.0 Currently rebuilding the search engine so keep this in mind if you have issues searching the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Brad Posted January 8, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 8, 2019 Forum updated to 4.2.5 and seems to be running nice and quick with PHP 7.0 Currently rebuilding the search engine so keep this in mind if you have issues searching the site. Nice work. I know what a pain in the arse it is =( Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Arcade King Posted January 8, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 8, 2019 Nice work. I know what a pain in the arse it is =( Brad Yeah one of the plugins is giving me an error when I try to access the Admin panel when using PHP 7.1 so for now I've set it to 7.0 until the search engine finishes rebuilding, I'll continue looking into it after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefjedi Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Thanks for your persistence Trav:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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