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Pre-wired IEC power input to Powerboard - Does it exist?


AmperSandman

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Hi everyone,

 

I'm building a cab and looking into the possibility of selling some down the track (just at a hobby level not a full time business).

 

Because I'm not an electrician and like to do things by the book, I'm wondering there exists such a thing as an IEC power input pre-wired to a power board.

This would be ideal to chuck straight in a cab and not have to worry about test & tag etc. I'm under the assumption here that it would be illegal to sell something that plugs into 240V that hasn't been done by an electrician - please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Ideally it would be on a mounting plate like this one: https://www.mygamesroom.com.au/shop/switch-assembly/ IEC input with fuse and switch with the wiring at the back covered, going straight to a 4 or 6 outlet power board.

So you can cut a decent hole, pass the power board through and screw the plate on - job done! Looks professional and was wired by a professional.

 

Does anyone know if this exists, or something like it?

 

If not, perhaps it could be a good little side project an electrician/arcade enthusiast could start?

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Just in case anyone is interested I finally found some in Australia. A company called Temple Audio is putting these together for pedal boards. So you get an IEC inlet, switch and line filter to protect your electronics. This is perfect and exactly what I was looking for. Called the IEC MOD

https://www.templeaudio.com/iec-mod

Australian dealers:

https://www.deluxeguitars.com.au/products/temple-audio-design-iec-ac-mains-micro-module?_pos=7&_sid=641d3daaa&_ss=r

https://www.pedalempire.com.au/products/temple-audio-design-iec-mod-filtered-ac-mains-power-module?_pos=1&_sid=e556d36d0&_ss=r

Combine it with an IEC power board like this one from Crest (you can get them at Big W) https://www.crest.com.au/collections/power/products/connect-power-board-4-outlet-master-switch and you've got an idiot-proof professional looking power inlet for your cab with no electrician needed (unless you want to test and tag of course)

Hope that helps someone!

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To the best of my knowledge it doesn't exist.

I have wired my own in the past but then, I'm not planning on selling commercially.

Here in SA technically it's illegal to do your own electrical work. But pretty sure this is a loophole so to speak as it's not fixed wiring, but rather something that is plugged in.

 

Without gving advice, I would suggest you google and read lots. Then if you plan on selling as a hobby get your own Test & Tag certification. It's not expensive and would cover you.

 

This is all my own opinion. good luck

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Im not sure of the rules but I thought anything with a plugtop is an appliance and you don't need an electrician to wire appliances?

 

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Thx, sort of what I was alluding to. But if your selling something then I'm pretty sure it has different rules??

 

Again just my thoughts. Will leave it to the electrician for actual fact :)

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In general, any electrical work in QLD must be done by an electrician or someone with a restricted ticket.

 

Now, there are IEC plug (male) to 3 pin socket adapters for use with a UPS as some of them have IEC outlets.

 

You can use one of those in conjunction with a conventional power board.

 

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Search eBay for "iec male 3 pin socket" and you'll see the little adapter cables I'm talking about.

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Then if you plan on selling as a hobby get your own Test & Tag certification. It's not expensive and would cover you.

 

Didn't even think to check if I could do a test & tag cert without doing a whole sparky cert. Thanks for that I'll look into it.

 

In general, any electrical work in QLD must be done by an electrician or someone with a restricted ticket.

 

Now, there are IEC plug (male) to 3 pin socket adapters for use with a UPS as some of them have IEC outlets.

 

You can use one of those in conjunction with a conventional power board.

 

EDIT:

 

Search eBay for "iec male 3 pin socket" and you'll see the little adapter cables I'm talking about.

 

Yeah I'm in QLD hence why I'm asking, pretty well known for being tight on the electrical rules here.

 

I've seen IEC power boards, and I actually have an IEC to 3-pin adaptor on another project (they're dirt cheap from jaycar). It just doesn't have the polish that I'd like if I were to sell something.

 

Anyways, thanks guys. I'll look into a minimal certification or maybe try a find a local sparky who will make a few up for me.

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https://www.worksafe.qld.gov.au/injury-prevention-safety/electricity/homeowners-and-consumers/dontdiy

 

Under section 18 of the Electrical Safety Act 2002 (the Act), electrical work includes "the manufacturing, constructing,....of electrical equipment".

 

 

heres the qld laws link for you to start at.. you only have to be a 'competent person in vic to do appliance work. in qld you cant do it apparently

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https://www.worksafe.qld.gov.au/injury-prevention-safety/electricity/homeowners-and-consumers/dontdiy

 

Under section 18 of the Electrical Safety Act 2002 (the Act), electrical work includes "the manufacturing, constructing,....of electrical equipment".

 

 

heres the qld laws link for you to start at.. you only have to be a 'competent person in vic to do appliance work. in qld you cant do it apparently

 

I've just been looking there (and many more places). Seems you can do a course to become a "competent person" for the test & tag.

 

BUT you need at least a REL (restricted electrical licence) to even touch any wiring that's going to plugged into mains. Shortest course would be a Cert II in Electrical which is about $2500 and 12 months part time study. Or you can just do a dedicated REL skills course.

 

This doesn't just count for businesses but for ANY electrical work, including personal use at your home.

So technically can't wire up an IEC socket, or even wire up a JAMMA power supply for your own project if you live in QLD!

 

Kind of makes sense when I think back to a rental house I lived in here in QLD where the Real Estate wouldn't even let us change light bulbs or tap washers ourselves :o

 

I guess I'll just work on plug and play solutions then. Adaptors, plugs or the old extension cord out the back.

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Really no need to redesign the wheel,why not use an arcade distribution board,they have on/off switch ,fuse and line filter .

Just run an extension cord from your wall power point and fit a 3pin molex plug on the other end that plugs into the distribution block.

It always amazes me every time I see a mame cab conversion and the extent people go to for power after gutting the cab with perfectly good power boards already wired in.

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Really no need to redesign the wheel,why not use an arcade distribution board,they have on/off switch ,fuse and line filter .

Just run an extension cord from your wall power point and fit a 3pin molex plug on the other end that plugs into the distribution block.

It always amazes me every time I see a mame cab conversion and the extent people go to for power after gutting the cab with perfectly good power boards already wired in.

 

It's not a conversion it's a cabinet from scratch. All I want to do is have a power board inside but have it look professional outside. What I'm more worried about is the legalities of doing this if I were to sell a cab to someone else. Wiring a 3pin molex is still electrical work that probably isn't legal (in QLD anyway).

 

I have a had some more info on the electrical stuff and in all of Australia you're supposed to be registered with EESS just to resell mains connected appliances, for example a monitor or TV. Then you have to register if you are doing any mains connected stuff bespoke. I searched the registry and now and behold, I could not find one arcade cabinet seller in Australia who is registered! Searched for about 20 of the ones I know by ABN and trading name.

It seems to be a case of the old "no one does it anyway", or I'm not reading things right.

 

For anyone interested anyway I have a couple of solutions:

Found some cheap IEC connected power boards at BigW of all places! There were some links to rack mounted power boards that do the same thing previously, but these are cheaper.

These are just a "build your own" system where you pick a board and a cord. https://www.bigw.com.au/product/cres...wc4100/p/2814/

 

Then I found some cheap IEC extension cords where the socket end has screw mounts: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Power-C1...m/283481000752

It bothers me that these say they are rated to 5A, I'll look around and see if I can find the same thing but in 10A. But this would work to mount on the outside and run inside to the above power board.

 

I also found these from overseas: https://reverb.com/au/item/10642973-...-with-iec-cord

Which are getting really close to the exact thing I originally had in mind, but seems they are really hard to actually buy - I think they may be made up by hand.

 

If someone out there makes something like this, but with a chassis mounted inlet and switch (like this: https://www.amazon.com/URBEST-Module.../dp/B00ME5YAPK) on one end, and an IEC plug or female 3-pin mains on the other, I think it'd do very well in the DIY arcade community as a plug and play solution.

This is what I was thinking I would just get made up by a local electrician maybe (still have to check on legalities of that).

 

Anyway, thanks for your help everyone!

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