Glenn70 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Yep, this will be a love or hate it machine. Too early to call of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Holy shit, talk about FLOW! Nathan doesnt like games that play well ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audioenslaved Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Holy shit, talk about FLOW! Nathan doesnt like games that play well ;p As I always say each to their own. Black knight flows and that looks interesting. Maybe not purchase interesting for me but interesting enough. Pirates flows and I enjoy that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koops Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 Wonka thread Looks great. So I wonder what the 7500 model will cost here? Still need to see the differences between models but that could be their better seller! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORGAR 1 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Wonka thread Did they say pro doesn’t get physical ball lock? Short ball times to but nice flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Almost 4 times the viewers on the Stern stream... I guess people do want more in pinball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koops Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 Did they say pro doesn’t get physical ball lock? Short ball times to but nice flow Machine had a lean. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORGAR 1 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koops Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190413/c31d1aa617831b650a7ee6ea10706c9f.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So translating that to stern speak Ce = limited Le = premium Standard = pro Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 "I think you have to design a game with something that people havent seen before" - Pat Lawlor Thats it.. I am done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORGAR 1 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koops Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 high res pics are up for trans and cabinets. They ALL look good! standard le ce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualmagic Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Want. Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Chucker Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Leaving out the physical ball lock on the standard is straight out dumb. Having a cheaper model that wasn't just a happy meal version of the complete game was one of JJP's big advantages over Stern, and they just lost it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koops Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 Leaving out the physical ball lock on the standard is straight out dumb. Having a cheaper model that wasn't just a happy meal version of the complete game was one of JJP's big advantages over Stern, and they just lost it. Not sure how that is dumb. Sounds like better business model in a jam packed market. They needed to do SOMETHING to move more volume just to survive. Want to see toy story and guns and roses actually become a reality? This is how they do it. Can you honestly say any of their machines have been a sales success outside of woz? As they've already said the standard is for operators. They've obviously been asking for something cheaper and they've made them that option. Why is that so bad? Also think of it this way. JJP have the a product in which the price can be so high they then loose sales. If taking a couple of coils and mech's out results in a sale isn't that a good thing form a business point of view? Stern have already shown where the money is. It would be stupid to not use that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORGAR 1 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Wonka thread Leaving out the physical ball lock on the standard is straight out dumb. Having a cheaper model that wasn't just a happy meal version of the complete game was one of JJP's big advantages over Stern, and they just lost it. Agree :) spinning lollipop and gobble hole isn’t innovative either. Think Kaneda over hyped this one and only 5000 LE’s lol. One improvement is there saying games will ship hopefully in 60 days think I heard that correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Agree :) spinning lollipop and gobble hole isn’t innovative either. Think Kaneda over hyped this one and only 5000 LE’s lol. One improvement is there saying games will ship hopefully in 60 days think I heard that correctly. Not innovative but the lock under it is ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Chucker Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 If taking a couple of coils and mech's out results in a sale isn't that a good thing form a business point of view? Nope. If dropping the price by US$2K results in a sale, then THAT is a good thing. But the coils and mechs didn't cost anywhere near US$2K. The majority of the $2K saving comes from the shaker motor, sparkle armour, invisiglass etc that the public (as well as a lot of serious players) couldn't give a toss about. There's no point dropping the price if they're also removing the feature-packed playfields that actually induce people to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORGAR 1 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Not innovative but the lock under it is ;) Like GB? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 This mech has never been done before.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked71 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Do we have Australian pricing on this yet? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 What’s the abbreviation gunna be ? WiWo ? Sent from my iPhone using Aussie Arcade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cejay Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 WWCF? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wotto Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Cab art looks like a lazy attempt in all honesty, on base model. Personally not a fan of theme, the Broadway musical music is a complete brain rattler and the crazy Wilder voice was like a cheese grater on my private parts. No real special toy that gets demanded and slammed on every Stern release. It's "pretty" on the playfield, and I'm sure deep as all ##$% when it comes to code, so to those happy buying it , congrats and enjoy. Not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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