hamish_nz Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/LOTR-GOLD $100 deposit jack at pinball is trying to get stern to do a limited edition gold LOTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I thought the license was expired? Unless I missed it, I couldn't see a clarification from Jack about it, after several people asked the same question. Be nice to see a special edition of LOTR done though :) - although it does sound like they'd be set up for US buyers only :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamish_nz Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 you can always relicense they maybe willing to do a deal now the movies are well gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTR4U Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I will bet my left nut it doesn't happen. The license is expired and therefore would need to be renewed. Not only that but the figures are no longer made and would need to be re manufactured again by the figure company or a new batch of figures put on the game. So you would be talking big dollars to re run. Hope I am proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamish_nz Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hmmm gold figures ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTR4U Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hmmm gold figures ? narr would look way over the top. If they made new side art (black version/Evil) , gold trim, new figures and a shaker motor for the balrog I would be IN like FLYN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I think the things that most people seem to want would be fairly cool on the machine: - gold rails - gold legs - shaker motor - proper mirrored backglass - custom shooter Unlike most machines where a gold version is just done for bling factor, this would actually suit the theme imo. narr would look way over the top. If they made new side art (black version/Evil) , gold trim, new figures and a shaker motor for the balrog I would be IN like FLYN! whoa, if they made a Mordor version, mmmmm :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTR4U Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Maybe even Elvish enscribed on the sword, not a gold sword tho. that again would be way over the top and not to the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fair Dinkum Dan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thanks Hamish for posting this news. Apparently, Gary Stern hinted on a re-run at a recent speech he did, from what I have read on the newsgroup. In my opinion, LOTR has been the most requested pin to be re-released over the past few years and sales should be good for it, especially in the collector market. There have been some interesting suggestions brought forward by many pinheads on rgp (rec.games.pinball/google.group) who would love this "Collector's Edition" LOTR pin to be produced. Jack has also stated that availability for other countries will be included in his discussions with Gary Stern on Thursday. Hopefully, Gary will be very receptive to the idea on the whole, especially if enough people put down a deposit for one. This proposal can only be a good thing not only for STERN to keep churning out a few more LOTR pinball machines, but for the Pinball Collector market who are after these Limited Edition versions. It also has a flow on effect by making more HUO (Home use only) and earlier release LOTR pins available at a cheaper rate to others who, before now, couldn't get their hands on one. Here's hoping the meeting is positive for all concerned. Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTR4U Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 And lets hope the new license doesn't make it too expensive :cry I want one but I wouldn't pay $9000 + aussie to have a limted edition machine. It may help HUO prices in the US but with the dollar the way it is I don't reckon too many would put there hands up here in Aus. Therefore it probably wouldn't make much difference to Aus prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fair Dinkum Dan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 And lets hope the new license doesn't make it too expensive :cry From what I have read, I don't think cost of licensing will be an issue with the re-release. The availability of the toys shouldn't be an issue either, due to them not being such an important part of the pinball machine actually being produced. They could be bought, if so desired, afterwards on eBay etc by the owner of the pin. At least the Balrog is still available and an integral part of the pinball machine. I do think there would be a couple of members here on Aussie Arcade who would be willing to put their name down for one too. Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTR4U Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 From what I have read, I don't think cost of licensing will be an issue with the re-release. The availability of the toys shouldn't be an issue either, due to them not being such an important part of the pinball machine actually being produced. They could be bought, if so desired, afterwards on eBay etc by the owner of the pin. At least the Balrog is still available and an integral part of the pinball machine. I do think there would be a couple of members here on Aussie Arcade who would be willing to put their name down for one too. Cheers, Dan How would you just think the price of a license like "Lord of the Rings" wouldn't be an issue? Its a big brand and still worth alot even tho the movies are done and dusted. Anyway, licensing was an issue before hence why it wasn't re run. So whats changed? No way is anyone going to pay top dollar for a machine that is incomplete, "buy the toys from Egay" that was a rediculous comment by someone I notice on RGP. Rely on Egay for parts? :unsure I wont be down for that. I noticed many people saying that they didn't want one if it was not more different then simply a gold trim package. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconfryingpan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Licence will go up again now with the Hobbit in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTR4U Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Licence will go up again now with the Hobbit in production. Maybe, who knows. Guess Garry will need to check with Warner Bros who I think has the games license :unsure Or maybe http://www.tolkien-ent.com/licensing_contact.html :unsure New Line Cinema is owned by Warner Bros I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pindividual Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 $5K is the most I can spend on a pin. So I'll go someone halves if they want :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fair Dinkum Dan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 How would you just think the price of a license like "Lord of the Rings" wouldn't be an issue? Its a big brand and still worth alot even tho the movies are done and dusted. Anyway, licensing was an issue before hence why it wasn't re run. So whats changed? No way is anyone going to pay top dollar for a machine that is incomplete, "buy the toys from Egay" that was a rediculous comment by someone I notice on RGP. Rely on Egay for parts? :unsure I wont be down for that. I noticed many people saying that they didn't want one if it was not more different then simply a gold trim package. :) Take a chill pill Ryan. Are you still tired from the long trip yesterday Ryan? :laugh: Licensing agreements do change and come up again for renewal, over time. Toys on a pinball machine, such as the little figures around the playfield on LOTR don't make it incomplete, in my view. You Ryan, yourself, have changed the figures to different ones as well. Not to mention sourcing them from eBay too. :rolleyes Just because you don't like the idea, or have no plans to purchase it due to your own interpretations of the proposal, you shouldn't be so quick to be so negative on behalf of everyone else either. It might be better to wait a few more days and see what unfolds. Good luck to anyone who may be thinking of putting their name down for one. Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackKnight2000 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 $5K is the most I can spend on a pin. So I'll go someone halves if they want :) Done, but it stays at mine :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 And lets hope the new license doesn't make it too expensive :cry I want one but I wouldn't pay $9000 + aussie to have a limted edition machine. I think he was saying about $US4700 would be the figure that they're looking at - $6811 in the aussie peso. Chuck on top the cost of landing one here and I'm guessing around $8500 if the exchange rate holds up. Pricey, but not totally out of reach for some :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTR4U Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) I think he was saying about $US4700 would be the figure that they're looking at - $6811 in the aussie peso. Chuck on top the cost of landing one here and I'm guessing around $8500 if the exchange rate holds up. Pricey, but not totally out of reach for some :) You wouldn't be able to order one from US direct, it would need to be purchased from Bumper or AMD you can bet your bottom dollar. Remember that Gary isn't going to shaft distrubutors on games :rolleyes What does a regular machine go for now let alone the price of a limted edition machine. Look at the price comparison when there was a BSM and SM :unsure that and the bad dollar make for a bad mix :o Take a chill pill Ryan. Are you still tired from the long trip yesterday Ryan? :laugh: Licensing agreements do change and come up again for renewal, over time. Toys on a pinball machine, such as the little figures around the playfield on LOTR don't make it incomplete, in my view. You Ryan, yourself, have changed the figures to different ones as well. Not to mention sourcing them from eBay too. :rolleyes Just because you don't like the idea, or have no plans to purchase it due to your own interpretations of the proposal, you shouldn't be so quick to be so negative on behalf of everyone else either. It might be better to wait a few more days and see what unfolds. Good luck to anyone who may be thinking of putting their name down for one. Cheers, Dan I think i should change your title to Soap Box Dan :lol I am not sure you are understanding my post. "License agreements change and come up for renewal" wooo you think? It seems that stating the obvious is negative in your view. :rolleyes How am i stating things for other people? EVERYTHING IS IMO. not yours not your next door neighbours. I have already said "I WANT ONE". But I will wait to see what if anything eventuates from the talks with Garry. Edited March 30, 2009 by LOTR4U Auto Merged Double Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEX Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I think he was saying about $US4700 would be the figure that they're looking at - $6811 in the aussie peso. Chuck on top the cost of landing one here and I'm guessing around $8500 if the exchange rate holds up. Pricey, but not totally out of reach for some :) Well that sort of money does seem fairly reasonable considering the prices of the new stern pin's is around 7 to 10k in Aus depending on title anyway. Played LOTR a couple of times and didnt get into it much, Im thinking the fact that the machine was in a very poor state didnt help (Brisbane Airport). Since then I have played it a fair bit on vpinball, now im getting to know the rules its really starting to grow on me. Some of the idea's put forward sound awesome as well, I particularly liked the one of having dwarvin writing along the side rails or lockdown bar. Big fan of the movies as well so It will be interested to see how this pans out. Bulk AA order anyone ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 You wouldn't be able to order one from US direct, it would need to be purchased from Bumper or AMD you can bet your bottom dollar. Remember that Gary isn't going to shaft distrubutors on games :rolleyes What does a regular machine go for now let alone the price of a limted edition machine. Look at the price comparison when there was a BSM and SM :unsure that and the bad dollar make for a bad mix :o Yeah, I was basing the cost assumption on the fact that Jack said it would only be available through him and some other US distributor. If you had to get it through a distro here, probably north of $9500 :( I know the only place that has BSM here is selling them (or attempting to) for near as $10k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narf_ Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Maybe even Elvish enscribed on the sword, not a gold sword tho. that again would be way over the top and not to the movie. how big is the sword ive got one of the miniature official sting swords with the full engraving around 5 inches long ive always wondered would it fit a machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTR4U Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 how big is the sword ive got one of the miniature official sting swords with the full engraving around 5 inches long ive always wondered would it fit a machine Its kinda the shape of a sword but obviously cut in half for the ball to run down, probably 30cm - 40cm i think? :unsure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narf_ Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 ahh ok ive played the game but cant remember now what it looked like as for figures they would be a easy re-run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTR4U Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 ahh ok ive played the game but cant remember now what it looked like as for figures they would be a easy re-run yeah the sword would look cool with some engraving. As for the figures, if you say originals. Maybe the company that made them doesn't have the license anymore either :unsure Stern wont be making them thats for sure so someone will need to make something. FairDinkumDan, I am sorry but me put 2 extra figures on my LOTR is big difference from producing 100's of Limited edition games and having No figures on them and then telling people to find there own. That is a rediculous suggestion. why dont they just sell them without legs and shooter rods, i mean I can source my own ;) Just a quick search on EGay.com.au -- AOME Figure = 0 Egay.com = 11 http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZaomeQ20figuresQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR40QQ_mdoZ those are the 3" series (Armies Of Middile Earth) which Stern used. Not all but some. http://shop.ebay.com/items/__Armies-Middle-Earth_W0QQ_kwZArmiesQQ_kwZMiddleQQ_kwZEarthQQ_ckwZfigures?_trksid=p3286.m104.l1198 47 there, getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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