danny_galaga Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 discuss: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090119/tuk-caustic-soda-rapists-jailed-dba1618.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Fairlane Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 damn that is just so wrong. Need to cut these people into 1000 pieces... healing them along the way ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmworking247 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 9 years? You've got to be fucking kidding. Someone who even watches a crime like this, or knows about it and doesn't report it, deserves 9 years. The main guy who got 9 years and was responsible for not only rape but mutilation deserves to be drawn and quartered, slowly, by their victim, and I'm not kidding. There is NO excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEMINI Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 most disturbing part for me is Prosecutor Tom Little told the court the community had "closed ranks" in the wake of the attack, hampering the police. Detective Constable Alex Newton said it was the biggest rape case Haringey police have ever dealt with, and that lack of co-operation by the community made it extremely difficult to investigate. Easy to find a few sick fucks that would do such a thing But how do you find a community that would support such acts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmworking247 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Easy to find a few sick fucks that would do such a thing But how do you find a community that would support such acts?? I agree. Refer back to my point about 9 years for all of the conspirators. 9 years for the main perp is a total insult to justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksoul Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 9 years? Seems the "justice" system is fucked up world wide. Should have been 29 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolpete78 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) shocking what people will do - and as a father i don't even want to open the 2 middle stories down the bottom...... an old friend of mine came up with agreat solution for things like this - sorry if it's a bit out there guys - something to do with a locked vice, a barn, fire, a butter knife, and a choice. i know it's bad and sorry if it offends - not what i would like to see in a practical sense, but i think it crystalises some people's thoughts on those who do things like this, especially to kids.... Edited January 20, 2009 by pistolpete78 don't want to offend..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEMINI Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 i'll supply the vice and tighten it :evil who has a barn?? and a lighter?? Alibi?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radirgyman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ive got a drill and a hacksaw!:evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixthadog Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 If I was the father of the victim, I have no doubt in my mind what I would have done to the perpetrators of that horrendous crime. Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Juice Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I was just as horrified after reading this story in the Age last week: http://www.theage.com.au/national/schizophrenic-set-alight-in-rosebud-arson-horror-20090114-7h3b.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 that truly is horrendous, especially picking on a girl with a mental age of 8... these sick bastards prey on the easy targets.... how could doing something like that possibly make them feel good..... that poor girl can never ever EVER recover from what they did to her... its heartbreaking :( 9 years jail for something like that is pitiful.. that girl will have to live the rest of her life dealing with what they did to her... where is the justice in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixthadog Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I was just as horrified after reading this story in the Age last week: http://www.theage.com.au/national/schizophrenic-set-alight-in-rosebud-arson-horror-20090114-7h3b.html Bring back Capital Punishment! :evil Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Dan_ Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 9 years doesn't have to be a bad thing... The father has 9 years to plan the most painful horrific death he can dish out to the main perpetrators. If it was me I'd start by injecting full strength caustic soda in his pee pee hole followed by the actions of any stereotypical B-grade horror flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggeorge Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 The justice system only begins in the court room. Justice is also dispensed inside the jails by the other crims. For instance, a drug dealer can live with some form of social status and respect in jail. A man who rapes babies will get a new asshole torn for him while in prison. A group of young 20's boys who rape a retarded girl and burn her with caustic soda will probably have a few "accidents" while in jail... The other crims are human and as soon as they find out what you did to get put in jail, their emotions kick in but they don't have the reason of self restraint that regular people in society have. This is the bit you don't hear about in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 The justice system only begins in the court room. Justice is also dispensed inside the jails by the other crims. For instance, a drug dealer can live with some form of social status and respect in jail. A man who rapes babies will get a new asshole torn for him while in prison. A group of young 20's boys who rape a retarded girl and burn her with caustic soda will probably have a few "accidents" while in jail... The other crims are human and as soon as they find out what you did to get put in jail, their emotions kick in but they don't have the reason of self restraint that regular people in society have. This is the bit you don't hear about in the media. Good point biggeorge, but does that make it ok? Does that make it better for the abused girl or for her family? It's not always guaranteed that they will get that kind of mistreatment (payback) in jail, they could have money, or connections, or they could be really smart and get themselves in solitary so they don't have to get involved with the general population. It might make us feel better that we hope/believe they are getting their 'comeuppance' in jail, but we'd never know for sure, and half the time, jail does nothing to rehabilitate people like this. It depends on if they have some kind of idea that this is normal and acceptable, or whether they just did it for kicks. Having a pyschological issue will probably never be cured, unless they castrate them..... just my 2c :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmworking247 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Well, thats a small mercy that their 9 years will be a living hell, but somehow it often fails to reform them, and instead they just get bitter and resentful about being 'sent' to prison, rather than deserving it. Its a fundamental human flaw that we fail to take responsibility for our own actions. And regardless of the fact that they'll be put through hell, and even if they really learned their lesson, unfortunately no form of punishment can undo the emotional and physical damage of the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaMpAgE Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I would have no hesitation in reaching into the gun cabinet and pulling out one of my favourite/trusted calibers, hunting down all responsible without thought of consecquences if my family was victomised in such a way:evil If the law can't look after you then its time to take it into your own hands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tales Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Bring back Capital Punishment! :evil Matthew we should never have stopped using it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixthadog Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 we should never have stopped using it ;) Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMPURE Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 in my job i come across some pretty fucked up units, there is no justice anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 9 years is disturbingly short. it shows that the legal system has no precedent to follow and thus 9 years is probably a standard term. interesting about the views on metering out punishment. i myself don't believe in corporal or capital punishment. and to dish out a cruel punishment or death is only stooping to the level you are supposedly disgusted at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmworking247 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Well its hard to think of a better suggestion that ensures the guilty fully understand the severity of their actions. To turn nerdy for a second there was once an episode of Star Trek Voyager where murderers had the last moments of their victims life imprinted in their brain so that it would periodically replay itself for the rest of the murderers life... making them see the crime (repeatedly) literally through the victims eyes. Since thats science fiction, there's not many other ways to teach that lesson. Yes, there's also a lot of anger behind that, and most of us will justify that the punishment should fit the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixthadog Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 interesting about the views on metering out punishment. i myself don't believe in corporal or capital punishment. and to dish out a cruel punishment or death is only stooping to the level you are supposedly disgusted at. I reckon you might change your thinking if it was your daughter ;) A needle or some gas is nothing compared to the life-time of trauma that little girl has to suffer. Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 whether i changed my thinking or not would not make it the right thing to do. i'd like to think i was as strong as Michael berg: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/21/usa.iraq2 but i know that really, i'm just a coward and would just as soon lynch the rapist of my daughter (if i had one) as you. that doesn't make it the right thing to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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