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    I'm a newbie to this forum but it looks great. I am in the last stages of restoring a Gottlieb Class of 1812. Cabinet, mechanicals etc done. 100%. Starting on playfield which needs some repainting. I use an air brush mainly, with acrylic paint. I would appreciate some advice on the best clear coating to preserve the surface. The center is mylar and I intend leaving that alone except for a polish. Looking for tips and tricks. Scarey business, mucking around with the play field. Those who know 1812 would know the beating heart. The rubber heart has perished like most of them...any ideas for a replacement. I'm use a glow in the dark ghouls mask at the moment which looks OK but would rather a heart transplant. Any suggestions?? Can't find a substitue. Thanking you in advance.
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  • #2
    i have just finished the painting part of a WMS restoration and am going to try using a Cabots water based urethane - will do a test before trying on the playfield - will try to document results
    Ric
    looking for:
    the baseboard for a Gottlieb Royal Guard
    Zaccaria Devil Riders Backglass
    Williams OXO, GTB Volcano

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    • #3
      I did mine - Indiana Jones with Two Pack Clear from a spray gun...
      1st thing I did was carefully remove the mylar. Then a light sand down with 1500 grit paper. Then 2-3 coats of clear. Let it dry for a week, then sanded this with 1200 grip and did my repairs (mostly touch ups, fixed 2 holes) and then 3 good coats of clear. Light rub down and a cut n Polish....

      Automotive finish, ultra shinny and hard finish...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Savage View Post
        I did mine - Indiana Jones with Two Pack Clear from a spray gun...
        1st thing I did was carefully remove the mylar. Then a light sand down with 1500 grit paper. Then 2-3 coats of clear. Let it dry for a week, then sanded this with 1200 grip and did my repairs (mostly touch ups, fixed 2 holes) and then 3 good coats of clear. Light rub down and a cut n Polish....

        Automotive finish, ultra shinny and hard finish...
        WHOA! That sounds like a nice finish.
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        • #5
          i have seen show motorcycles done in the same kinda fashion...

          if you stick them in the sun the shine from the paint work is incredible, i have no doubt the pinnies would scrub up and look better then new
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          • #6
            i am not pro enough to that the word isocyanates also scares the crap out of me
            Ric
            looking for:
            the baseboard for a Gottlieb Royal Guard
            Zaccaria Devil Riders Backglass
            Williams OXO, GTB Volcano

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ric View Post
              i have just finished the painting part of a WMS restoration and am going to try using a Cabots water based urethane - will do a test before trying on the playfield - will try to document results
              I had a house with a timber once and the previous owner had used that stuff on the floor. The floor had a milky finish and I refuse to use it on anything.

              I did an EM with auto acrylic and the finish is stunning. Total of 8 coats, sanded between every coat after the second.
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              • #8
                i have heard the problems with off the shelf acrylics

                however the auto stuff is just way too dangerous for an amateur like me

                I will see how i go with the test piece and me up my mind

                confused but determined

                Ric
                Ric
                looking for:
                the baseboard for a Gottlieb Royal Guard
                Zaccaria Devil Riders Backglass
                Williams OXO, GTB Volcano

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ric View Post
                  i have heard the problems with off the shelf acrylics

                  however the auto stuff is just way too dangerous for an amateur like me

                  I will see how i go with the test piece and me up my mind

                  confused but determined

                  Ric
                  No for a starting place the acrylic is a good bet. It's not dangerous and is acually easy to apply with a spray gun, it even comes out OK with an air less gun. Obviously 2pak is best but I'd say acrylic is the next best so long as it's auto paint.
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                  • #10
                    I used a Solver brand clear coat acrylic that did not contain linseed. Linseed will yellow over time.

                    I'll check the exact name in the shed tomorrow when I find the tin.

                    http://www.users.on.net/~bradandpam/.../eldorado.html

                    If I do it again I will ensure more drying time between coats, about 3-4 days. I'll also try to use fewer coats if I can. It is a long process as compared to an auto 2pac but much safer.

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                    • #11
                      All Paint are dangerous without the right safety equipment, inhaling the fumes wether it be from painting it on via roller / brush or spray mist, but yep 2 pack is a lot more harmful,,,, but the finish is outstanding, pity your not in Brissy, small cost I would have done it for you...

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                      • #12
                        i agree that all paint is dangerous and I have bought breathing gear etc (specifally says do not use with isocyante paint - scared me more)

                        I would have taken you up on the offer savage except in sydney - bummer - the playfield looks great now and I do not want to stuff it up on the clearcoat phase.

                        Brad - if you can get me the name of the acrylic you use I will give that a go too or if anyone knows of a another good one besides the cabots I will give that a go too.

                        The reason I looked at the cabots was that no-one else really had a urethane or acrylic that did not contain linseed or some other oil that will yellow the fiinish over time

                        Cheers

                        Ric
                        Ric
                        looking for:
                        the baseboard for a Gottlieb Royal Guard
                        Zaccaria Devil Riders Backglass
                        Williams OXO, GTB Volcano

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                        • #13
                          Clearcoat I used is Solver Brand, in their "classic timber finishes" range:

                          Polyaqua Interior Gloss Clear


                          If you do use it, get the guy at the counter to ring their help desk to make sure the formula has not changed and they have added anything that may make it yellow.


                          When I coated mine I now think I applied it too thick and did not give it enough cure time between coats. Reason being was that after a few months I was polishing it again, I left the bottle of Novus 2 sitting on the playfield for about 10 minutes, when I lifted it off there was a very fine indent in the shape of the bottom of the Novus bottle on the playfield. Took about 10 minutes sanding with 2000 grit and a polish up to get rid of it. It would suggest the layers were not fully cured or too thick. Seems rock hard now and have not had the same problem again.

                          Has now been coated for about 12 months, no yellowing, looks great!

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                          • #14
                            excellent

                            I looked at their site earlier and saw that - there is a supplier near me so will check it out

                            thanks

                            Ric
                            Ric
                            looking for:
                            the baseboard for a Gottlieb Royal Guard
                            Zaccaria Devil Riders Backglass
                            Williams OXO, GTB Volcano

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                            • #15
                              Here's some more info on automotive clears:

                              http://www.marvin3m.com/clear/index.htm (I should put this site in my sig!)

                              As for the fake heart, something like this would be good:
                              http://www.halloweenonly.com/website...no=&ltype=feat
                              BEEP BEEP Richie! They ALL float down here. When your down here with us, you'll float too!

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