illawarra_steelers Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 well not sure if i'm allowed posting in this unfamiliar section of the forum. some background. recently put feelers out for a mate since 1970 (that's 50 years and showing my age) who bought a stern nugent back in 1980, who was looking to sell.. as i was collecting pins back then helped him buy it. we grew apart and reconnected about 5 years ago, he still had the game but it hadn't been played and wasn't working then. he contacted me a few weeks back looking to unload the game. as nugent was one of the games we played so much back in the day started to think maybe i should take this one. had been casually looking for a nugent project and kept thinking will regret this if someone else buys it with the history this game has. so went back through the forum and read @Jesder old posts about his restores on nugent and was inspired then and I am now. so i need the guys that are into ss pins for guidance for part location places etc. as mentioned the game has been in my mates place for the past 40 years and plan to restore from the ground up. as im semi retired it's great having a queue of games being restored at the same time. plans for this are a brand new playfield (and yes you may say they aren't available) but they are 😉 new backglass from bglass resto and all new boards etc. great base to start off and looking forward to this different journey. so please be patient, this restore is an entirely new world for someone that has just tinkered with electo mechanical pins since 1978. no expense spared, this will look and play like new once done. some pix as it stands right now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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illawarra_steelers Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 so for starters does anybody have a .pdf or similar of the 1981 stern catalogue they can share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddstoys Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Looks in really nice original condition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Hey Tony, I picked one up not so long ago nearly as good as yours, but not buying new playfields and back glasses, so if you haven’t had anyone else ask, I would be happy to buy your Backglass and be in on shipping for bits and pieces too. Wazza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autosteve Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Many won't like this but I tell it as I see it and saw it working on SS pins when they were current. Any opportunity to swap out mechanical playfield Stern parts for Bally parts, I would. Many are directly interchangable but Bally are just made out of stronger metal. This is especially true with the flipper assemblies and bumper assemblies where the parts are completely interchangable. None of these changes will make the Stern game feel any different, just more reliable and few would spot the difference below the playfield either. Here is a quick list of problems on Stern flipper assemblies that I have noticed fail. Coil backstops that snap on the bend. Plunger stops that fall out of the backstop. Front coil mounts that snap on the bend. Bolts that hold both in place onto the flipper base plate snap or threads strip out of the base plate or strip the thread off the bolt. End of stoke switch mounts bend. Flipper pawls pull the post the link goes on out of the pawl. Bally flipper mechs were just made a whole heap better and the Stern flipper coils fit straight in them. The flipper stroke is also exactly the same. I always got the impression Stern copied Bally in every way but just tried to do it all cheaper. The Bally SS mechs aren't bulletproof, they did occasionally strip or snap the same coil mount bolts but you can easierly put in the next imperial size up and use allan head cap screws, ( hex bolts) and then they are pretty well bullet proof. Any piece of metal that was press bent on the Stern like the backstops, standup target mounts etc will break. It was as if the metal they used fractured slightly when bent to 90 degree if you know what I mean and Stern SS never did get it right. I would also check if any of your Gottlieb metal spares are compatiable. Gottlieb learnt real early in the piece how to bend metal and not fracture it. Like I said, I say it as I saw it. No cheer boy for any make or model, just reliabilty. Good luck Tony. Enjoy your SS journey. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railways Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 We can probably help with siderails Tony;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinoffski Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 so for starters does anybody have a .pdf or similar of the 1981 stern catalogue they can share? Hey Mate I think I have will have a look this afternoon Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzap Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Here's the parts catalog: https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/images/9/97/Stern-parts-catalog-1981.pdf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illawarra_steelers Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 help needed: part of sms between @Railways The rails. What finish? Shiny or grained? I'll probably need an overal length as well as stern seemed to have used 3 different ones. any help please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poidapoida Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Railways reproduced the rails off my Meteor. They are 1290mm long. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railways Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Railways reproduced the rails off my Meteor. They are 1290mm long. Thanks Pete. Yes we have done a few sets for Meteor now but none for Ted yet. Since Ted precedes Meteor by about a year Tony and I would like to be sure of the lenght. The 3 measurements for Stern solid state that we have recorded so far are 1290mm , 1300mm, 1360mm long . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illawarra_steelers Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 Thanks Pete. Yes we have done a few sets for Meteor now but none for Ted yet. Since Ted precedes Meteor by about a year Tony and I would like to be sure of the lenght. The 3 measurements for Stern solid state that we have recorded so far are 1290mm , 1300mm, 1360mm long . should explain don't get the game until next saturday, just looking to order a set now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators furballx Posted September 12, 2020 Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2020 Thanks Pete. Yes we have done a few sets for Meteor now but none for Ted yet. Since Ted precedes Meteor by about a year Tony and I would like to be sure of the lenght. The 3 measurements for Stern solid state that we have recorded so far are 1290mm , 1300mm, 1360mm long . One Meteor set for me please my man. I am well and truly over-invested in the game already, I may as well spend a bit more! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbleseven Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Have played one of these and was a load of fun. Gotta love the backstory of this game. I'm sure it will come up great after a restoration, especially with a new playfield! :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossninja17 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Have you got this? Stern_1978_Nugent_Manual.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illawarra_steelers Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 yes thanks mark, picked her up today. has so much potential, will have to be just be happy to have a players game for now. rebuilding 3x 1950s woodrails. will tack on new parts for this with all the orders being put in all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illawarra_steelers Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illawarra_steelers Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 can see lots of potential 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railways Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 It looks in great original nick Tony. have you thought about maybe preserving it rather than restoring it? . I mean get it running a 100% but leave the rest as a good original survivor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illawarra_steelers Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 It looks in great original nick Tony. have you thought about maybe preserving it rather than restoring it? . I mean get it running a 100% but leave the rest as a good original survivor. indeed, now I have after a few beers. first of lots of questions: looking for a ding free stern front door drop target decals backglass trim can bally flipper kits sub for this era stern source of quality hex head screws source of 40 cent front door decals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illawarra_steelers Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 first of the new parts ordered arrived today: decals from pinball rescue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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