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  • FU*KING HDD Crash!!! >_<

    Just need a quick assessment guys.... (I've just been reamed by the computer Gods).

    OK, I had a Seagate 300Gb drive die on me was part of a RAID setup) but I managed to get all my data backed up to an external Seagate 'Freeagent' 500Gb drive.

    I got a new drive under warranty... now just as I was about to rebuild the machine.. I knocked over the external drive It was on the carpet... been running all day (trucking USB1 took forever to copy stuff from my temp machine) and it fell, all of 3 inches ie these run vertical and it just fell on it's side... then there was a bad noise... no clicking or grinding..

    So I'm f*cked, but what physical hard drive crash does this sound like to you??:

    I can hear a loose part, I'm thinking the spindle/platter. If I rotate the drive from side to side it kinda clunks (with no power) It's like when you eject a dvd and it's still spinning or a loose cd in a case.

    Anyone come across this? What could come loose? Surely not the platters?
    Plus am I assuming right that I'm f*cked? I'm not powering it up again

    It's less than a month old and If I open the HDD, goodbye warranty...
    I opened the outer clam case, but all inside is the HDD with metal shielding.. I was hoping there was a fan in there that had come loose
    Last edited by Mickey Juice; 7th March 2008, 10:57 PM.
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    Never open a hdd unless you haver the propor tools.. akaa clean room (no dust) and the speciality tools

    Any physical hardrive sounds then bam... its basically dead.

    If its under warranty then good, otherwise a new 500Gb is $129 from umart.
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    • #3
      Seems strange that a three inch drop onto carpet screwed your harddrive
      have you removed the drive from the case? and it makes this noise or is rotating the whole case making the noise ?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by comrade.vader View Post
        Seems strange that a three inch drop onto carpet screwed your harddrive
        have you removed the drive from the case? and it makes this noise or is rotating the whole case making the noise ?
        Yeah I took the drive out of the case. HDD is making the noise
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        • #5
          It sounds grim then, perhaps one of the heads has come loose
          i gave up on selling seagate drives 3 years ago when they had a bad batch of sata drives on the market i got bitten hard, im a wd fan now

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          • #6
            im betting on a head crash in to a platter and a head or few has totaled itself.

            not good.
            but, *may not be* covered under warranty.


            dont tell them at the store the hdd fell over. kinda dishonst, but let them figure it out
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            • #7
              **** bummer mate

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              • #8
                surely you had raid for redundancy?
                put a fresh drive in and rebuild the array
                which raid was it
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bwodie View Post
                  surely you had raid for redundancy?
                  put a fresh drive in and rebuild the array
                  which raid was it
                  Nope. It was RAID0. But i recovered all the data using Barts recovery CD... chucked it all on that external drive ... which is now borked
                  I had just got the replacement drive from warranty, about to setup the PC fresh... when this happened...

                  Originally posted by dezrae View Post
                  im betting on a head crash in to a platter and a head or few has totaled itself.

                  not good.
                  but, *may not be* covered under warranty.


                  dont tell them at the store the hdd fell over. kinda dishonst, but let them figure it out
                  It's from Officeworks, so I should be right. I'll just be saying it crashed.. If they don't cover it, I'm sure Seagate will.

                  Funny thing is my other (external) drive got dropped from the desk at work once... end cover flew off... but it's still working! This piece o' crap tipped on it's side and kicked the bucket
                  Last edited by Mickey Juice; 7th March 2008, 10:56 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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                  • #10
                    most decent drives do have a "shock" rating or somehting like that, a 3" fall should be well within toleracnce, should be covered by warranty.

                    sounds like a head crash, to me, short answer is it's completely f***ed

                    Depending on how desperate there are data recovery services, but they aren't cheap.

                    This is why I never recomend external drives for backup, hard drives have one major weakness, movement.

                    If I have to back up to a hard drive, Personal Preference is to back up to a hard drive already installed in the machine. Or another machine.

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                    • #11
                      Sounds like a send away job to me.
                      There's places in Aus (look on Google) that do it for around $800+ I think. And they guarantee the data too (ie: no recovery, no charge).

                      There is always the old freezer trick too?

                      Smit

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Brootal View Post
                        most decent drives do have a "shock" rating or somehting like that, a 3" fall should be well within toleracnce, should be covered by warranty.
                        NNNNoooooooooo no no no no no!
                        Its G force rating not shock rating thats good on HDD, and thats when they are powered OFF! when off the heads are parked and can suffer minor knocks and thats it.
                        A 3inch fall is all it takes and if it was on at the time its finished, the heads will scratch into the surface of the platter.
                        I remember having this debate with some idiots on another forum and one guy claimed you can throw a HDD down a flight of stairs and it should still work because the G force rating was 100g or something like that.... idiots, suffice to say I dont go onto those forums nowadays.
                        G force rating is better and refers to how much movement stress it can handle like in a centrifuge or a car, jet whatever you happen to be cruising in at the time. for example you could load your PC in a plane and it should be OK with pretty bad turbulence but load your PC in the space shuttle for take off will probably kill it
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                        • #13
                          still got my ****ed HHD here from over 12months ago, a few of you boys may remember (12- 12monts of family vids & pics), the wifey dosent know yet. I rang one mob and thy quoted $1600 plus, ffs, if anyone does know of a cheaper source please share

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                          • #14
                            3" fall over onto carpet in its case seems a very sensitive drive when you get the next hard drive throw a marshmellow at it and see if it survives that

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                            • #15
                              Well I'm resigned to the fact that I won't get any data off it...
                              *sigh*
                              Looking at the positives there's isn't a tonne of critical data on there ie photos etc
                              I still have my x2 80Gb drives left over from my last upgrade from March last year, so I might be able to get stuff from them. Photos were backed up to about Nov last year and I havn't really taken any since.
                              Most of the sizeable data were DVD iso's and Xvids (most are on the xobx anyway), so I can either re-rip stuff ie I had just finished ripping 4 seasons of Curb Your Enthusiasm... Will just do it again.
                              Losing Steam is a pain, as it's been a while since that's been backed up.

                              So it's a killer (especially this drive being the emergency backup!) but I should be able to live. Luckily my music and apps are on another drive.

                              Major contributer would have been the drive being on at the time if fell over
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