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20" LAI Cocktail Restore - Roxbury


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My next project will be a restore of this LAI 20" cab. I have received it as not-working.

 

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/21Mar_2010_Cab%20from%201P%20side.JPG

 

Front Panel has some water damage and is a bit damaged. Will need to be replaced. The wood panels with the control panels attached & speaker panels etc are horrible and will also need to be replaced.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/21Mar_2010_Cab%20from%202P%20side.JPG

 

From the 2P side.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/21Mar_2010_Inside.JPG

 

Inside the cab from the front. I have noticed that both the Neutral and Earth wires use the same type and colour wires. Don't want to get those mixed up, will change this as part of the restore.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/21Mar_2010_Side.JPG

 

Side, with vinyl lifting.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/21Mar_2010_Bootleg%20Time%20Pilot%20PCB.JPG

 

Bootleg Time Pilot PCB.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/21Mar_2010_Bootleg%20Connectors%20with%20solder.JPG

 

Solder on the PCB edge connector. Yuck.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/28_Mar_2010_Bootleg%20PCB%20corrosion.JPG

 

PCB has some corrosion damage. I think I will put the PCB to the side, and think about trying to fix that later. Ultimately something else will end up in this cab.

 

I ran a few tests to determine what is working in the cab.

 

- Power supply is getting 240V

- Monitor is getting 110V

- Power supply is not outputting anything

 

I will test the PCB on my test rig later.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/21Mar_2010_Power%20Supply.JPG

 

The non-working power supply. Has been bashed a bit, will bin it.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/21Mar_2010_Mitsubishi%20tube.JPG

 

This at least has a good tube.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/28_Mar_2010_No%20screenburn.JPG

 

No screenburn.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/28_Mar_2010_2P%20Control%20panel%20open.JPG

 

Taking the control panels off, view with panel open.

 

Made a quick rig to try a JAMMA pcb in the cab (as it is not JAMMA wired), with a working power supply to see what the tube picture is like. I only hooked up the minimum 5V, ground, red, blue, green, & sync to test.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/01April_2010_Tube%20picture.JPG

 

The picture is excellent! That was a surprise.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/01April_2010_Chassis1.JPG

 

View of the chassis.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/01April_2010_Chassis2.JPG

 

Another view of the chassis.

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/02Apr_2010_Time%20Pilot%20running.JPG

 

Fired up the Time Pilot PCB in the cab. I was very surprised to see it work, only problem is the player and enemy sprites have been replaced with small circles. Maybe this won't be too much effort to fix?

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/02Apr_2010_Items%20removed.JPG

 

Starting to remove bits and pieces to start work.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/02Apr_2010_Tube%20removed.JPG

 

Top down view with tube removed.

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/03_Apr_2010_Top%20panels%20to%20be%20replaced.JPG

 

Top panels removed. Will make new ones to replace these.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/03Apr_2010_Front%20door%20to%20be%20replaced.JPG

 

Front door to be replaced due to water bloat damage.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/03Apr_2010_Clean%20up%20begins.JPG

 

Clean up for everything begins from here. Will be slow going for a while.

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Good photo's and write up:)

 

You might want to think about replacing the monitor chassis, those old kanga deshi (spelling) chassis ( with the flyback in the metal box) will just go really quickly had two go in one week in the same type of cocktail. ( The flybacks go up in a cloud of smoke )

So while you have everything out I would replace the monitor chassis as well, just to save time later, if budget permits.

 

I have the exact same CT (used to have 2) Crazy Kong with original CP artwork, sold one and kept the good bits from one to make it a worker $80.00 all up for both:o miss those days.

 

Look forward to the restore, have mine awaiting a new chassis from Joey when I can get around to it.

 

Does yours have a power off/on button on the cab. both mine were straight to mains :unsure

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You might want to think about replacing the monitor chassis, those old kanga deshi (spelling) chassis ( with the flyback in the metal box) will just go really quickly had two go in one week in the same type of cocktail. ( The flybacks go up in a cloud of smoke )

 

Yeah I was thinking about that, I thought I would do it for sure but then the picture came up so good! I don't think this is a Kaga Denshi chassis, although it has the same looking flyback in metal box. I might ask Jomac for his opinion.

 

Does yours have a power off/on button on the cab. both mine were straight to mains :unsure

 

No power on/off on this either.

 

***Edit***

 

After consulting Jomac, this is a Kaga Denshi chassis, and I should replace it, as the Flyback will go up in flames spectacularly when it does.

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/04Apr_2010_Grill%20&%20Fan.JPG

 

Removing the grill revealed so much filth that it plugged up the whole space for airflow into the cab.

 

The fan fell apart on removal. Probably explains why it was disconnected.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/04Apr_2010_Ready%20to%20remove%20rust.JPG

 

Some metal parts screwed to the bench ready for rust & corrosion removal with a grinder brush.

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/05Apr_2010_Coin%20Meter.JPG

 

By my calculations this game raked in about $18,000 in its life.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/05Apr_2010_Nearly%20gutted.JPG

 

Wasn't sure if I was going to almost gut this cabinet, but I have now.

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/05Apr_2010_Side%20Vinyl%20Lifting.JPG

 

Removed this side of vinyl as it was lifting. Will replace with some chalkboard vinyl.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/05Apr_2010_Vinyl%20removed%20leaving%20glue.JPG

 

When I removed the vinyl, there was heaps of glue left on the chipboard. I figured this should be removed for better adhesion of the new vinyl. You can see the glue in the pic. The way I removed the glue was by:

 

- Applying general thinners with a rag to the glue, rubbing until the glue was removed.

- Cleaning up left over stickiness with methylated spirits.

- Giving the side a wash with warm soapy water to finish off.

 

This method worked well for this job.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/05Apr_2010_Vinyl%20glue%20removed.JPG

 

All glue removed now.

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/06Apr_2010_screw.JPG

 

In the previous picture where the glue was removed from the side, there are 4 screw holes on the bottom. These are not standard, and I wondered what they were for. There has been some type of repair to hold the side to the base. One of the screws put in ran into another screw as pictured. I removed this screw as it was not really needed. To assist putting on vinyl later, I will fill the holes.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/06Apr_2010_Knead%20It.JPG

 

I used Sellys Knead It to fill the holes. This was my first go with this stuff, it is really good.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/06Apr_2010_sanded.JPG

 

Next time I use it I won't overfill too much - this stuff is tough, and is not like sanding off a bit of skim coat! The finish is really smooth.

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Great worklog Rox, a great imsight so far into restoring a cocktail, which i would love to own one day soon. Keep it up mate, Love it!!

 

Thanks! Progress will be a lot slower now - back to work after holidays :(

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/11Apr_2010_Jomac%20Chassis.JPG

 

Received a replacement Jomac chassis. I will probably get rid of the transformer in the cab, as these chassis have an inbuilt isolation transformer, and auto detect voltage input (~100 - 240V)

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/11Apr_2010_Vinyl%20accessories.JPG

 

Time to put some vinyl on the side. I haven't done this before, so its the first time. Firstly I wiped the area over with a tack cloth to remove any dust & residue. I cut a square of vinyl that was a bit bigger for the area to apply then trim. I then scored the back of the paper, to expose about 8cm of vinyl sticker.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/11Apr_2010_squidgee.JPG

 

After researching different application methods for adhesive backed vinyl, for the size of the piece and the fact that I didn't need to line up any holes or edges I chose to go dry. I started out putting the top piece about 1cm over the top. Then used a squidgee to methodically push the vinyl onto the side, slowly ediging further to avoid air bubbles.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/11Apr_2010_rolling%20down.JPG

 

As I sqidgeed down further, I pulled the backing off the vinyl a bit further each time.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/11Apr_2010_vinyl%20attached.JPG

 

Now all vinyl attached. Time to trim back.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/11Apr_2010_straight%20edge.JPG

 

When using a sharp knife to trim bck the vinyl along a wooden edge it is easy to dig the knife into the wooden edge just a little along the way, meaning things may not be completely even.

 

To ensure a straight cut, I got a metal straight edge and clipped along the edge but had it slightly over by a mm or so. I then used a metal ruller to run along the edge, pushing firmly to push the straight edge to exact alignment. Using the sharp knife, I cut the vinyl against the metal straight edge, ending up with a perfectly straight exactly where needs to be. For the rounded corners, I carefully cut around them free hand.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/11Apr_2010_finished.JPG

 

The finished application - I am happy with the result. I will need to sort out some holes, that will be easy though.

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/11Apr_2010_Jomac%20Chassis.JPG

 

Received a replacement Jomac chassis. I will probably get rid of the transformer in the cab, as these chassis have an inbuilt isolation transformer, and auto detect voltage input (~100 - 240V)

 

 

 

i know these chassis

 

they are used in a particular brand of poker machine that i wont name

 

these chassis last forever:cool:

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i know these chassis

 

they are used in a particular brand of poker machine that i wont name

 

these chassis last forever:cool:

 

I supply a variation of these chassis for gaming machines , looks almost identical but it's not the same , This chassis is 12 pin version that uses a very different flyback and also has an added Horizontal correction circuit and few other bits

 

The gaming machine ones have a 10 pin tube , split H+V sync , lower heater and focus voltage , no pin cushion correction circuit , different flyback etc , but yes they go forever :)

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I have put new overlay on the other side now.

 

Next up I will sort out the existing harness.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/18Apr_2010_harness.JPG

 

**EDIT** I will convert the edge connector to JAMMA with a universal harness to Jamma adapter ($20 from in2Amusements - not worth the effort doing anything else when they are so cheap!!)

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/25Apr_2010_Earth_Plate_Added.JPG

 

Have removed the isolation transformer. I have put a metal plate down to attach various earth loop connections to that were previously attached to the transformer.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/25Apr_2010_PSU_Installed_Front.JPG

 

I have moved a couple of things around to make room for a new power supply.

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/28Apr_2010_New_Bits.JPG

 

Received some new bits from in2Amusements today. New joysticks, Universal to Jamma Harness, fan, buttons & cam lock.

 

Hey Roxbury is the threaded shaft on the new cam lock longer than a normal hardware store cam lock,

The reason i ask is that i need a cam lock with a long shaft for a pinball machine head box, the normal ones are to short.

 

ian

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Hey Roxbury is the threaded shaft on the new cam lock longer than a normal hardware store cam lock,

The reason i ask is that i need a cam lock with a long shaft for a pinball machine head box, the normal ones are to short.

 

ian

 

The threaded shaft is 27mm long. Not sure if thats long enough for you?

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The threaded shaft is 27mm long. Not sure if thats long enough for you?

 

 

Thanks Roxbury, they might be ok, the one i have here is only 19mm, i think ill take a punt and order a couple. thanks mate.

 

Ian

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http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/02May_2010_AC%20Distributor.JPG

 

Made an AC distributor with a terminal panel, 90 degree & 45 degree 6.4mm lugs from Jaycar.

 

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI%20Time%20Pilot/02May_2010_AC%20Distributor%20secured.JPG

 

Secured the AC distributor in the cab, will use a plastic jiffy box to cover it up.

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