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    Great MGLers ,

    MGL19 starts on Friday 13/9/2013.
    The MGL is now in its 7th year and the tradition of fun gaming will continue.
    However before we start, I would like your feedback on how we can make this another great MGL.
    I have a few questions below asking you what you would like to do ...

    1. In MGL18 we used the percentage scoring system. Before that it was the Motor GP system (25 for 1st, 20 for 2nd etc.)
    Should we go the percentage system again or go back to the Motor GP system?

    2. The last MGL was 8 games over 9 weeks. Do you want to play 8 games again or do we drop or add a game, ie 7 or 9 games?
    I do recall in the last two MGLs that the last game was the lowest participation (replies and views) of the tournament. In the last MGL the last game was Moon Patrol, which in the past has been a popular game to play, but had the lowest participation of all the games played.
    On the other hand, there won't be enough time to run another MGL this year so you might want to extend by one game and finish on 24/11 instead of 17/11.

    3. For MGL 19 do you want to play?
    a. Games that were not played in the last 2 years OR
    b. Play favourites like in MGL18 (games played in MGL18 cannot be nominated again and one vote for each game only)

    Please post your feedback in this thread by this Sunday 7pm (8/9).
    Using your feedback, I will then open the nominations thread by 7pm on Monday night (9/9) with all the rules and you will have until 10pm Thursday (12/9) to nominate your games.
    On Black Friday the games begin.
    Any questions or thoughts, just post in this thread.

    Thanks



    PS1: There will be a mystery prize to be won by a lucky MGLer in MGL19. And it's not for winning MGL19 either.
    I am donating the prize and I will provide more details in the nominations thread on Monday night.

    PS2: A great THANKS to John73 for running the last few MGLs. I hope he has time to pop in and post some amazing scores every now and again.

    PS3: The MGL 19 banner commemorates one of the first 3D 'look' video games in Zaxxon from Sega. It was a big hit on its release in 1982.
    A weird space sounds game with a deadly fortress and a mighty robot, and it has not been played in a MGL for over 4 years. (Anyone willing to nominate Zaxxon?)

    PS4: And here are the trophies for MGL 19, that damned evil 3D robot from Zaxxon - a worthy trophy for the MGL.

    1st


    2nd


    3rd


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  • #2
    For this type of competition where the games are released one-by-one I like the percentage system better.
    In other contests where games are releasesd all at once, the percentage system makes some games more important to focus on than others, but here it is not the case as you have no idea what is up next so every game is as important as the next!

    Favourites is always fun. Another idea is doing a "crap-a-thon" type competition, where only obscure games no one has ever played nor heard of are picked

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    • #3
      Having three different games to play over the weekend is the best part of the MGL. Games start Friday afternoon and end Sunday night two weeks later.
      The percentage system works ok, but I play just for fun
      Having x number of votes to spend how you want is a good idea too, at the end of the MGL revealing the list of games that everyone voted on was a good 'games that I should play one day' list.
      If you wanted more obscure games, maybe exclude not only the actual games that were played in the last MGL, but also exclude any game that was voted for?

      Also if you could only overlap games that have the same number of vertical lines so I don't have to adjust my screen between games, that would be great

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      • #4
        As being a veteran of one comp, ok, newbie..

        I haven't tried any of the old style comps.

        I liked the percent system, but if you're a gun at one game, you can move up the table incredibly quick, but for me, I'm not worried about that. I'm not good enough at games to really change so consider myself as an also ran, but participated because its fun.

        As to what games are available, maybe games that have two runs in the previous 5 rounds are not available? I'm not sure what the stats are on that, the issue with obscure games is some people won't play them.

        I do like the randomness where you can have multiple votes, but not sure if being able to put all your votes in one basket.

        Maybe you get 6 votes, and you must pick 3 games minimum? That way you could decide to give 1 game 4 votes, and 1 and 1, or you could do 2/2/2. Or any other combination.

        I like the idea of acknowledging the also rans, the ones that complete all the games but didn't get a win etc, but to participated in all 8 games is a victory in its own mind.

        I do wonder if 8 games is too many, but I do like the overlap style, it does mean when you have a game you don't really like you still have another game you can play worth something.

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        • #5
          I love the game overlap so that has to stay. I'm also a fan of the percentage system. It actively encourages you to try for better scores. The other system does not. Someone is a gun at a game and is miles in front so you don't bother as you won't get extra points. The percentage system rewards continued gameplay for better points.

          As for voting, I'm not too fussed. The idea of "never heard of" games is good but it's a blurry line for many. For instance I know of at least 2 guys on this forum who are mad for Psychic 5 yet I'd never heard of it before? Is is a rare unheard of game? For many no, for me yes.

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          • #6
            8 games - just right if you ask me. Leave late Nov/ Xmas for special 1 off games, luck Puck off/ DK/ or another

            Over lap is a must. New games on friday was cool too, all running to Sunday

            I liked the voting for the games instead of random pick from peoples nominations, but did not like the multiple votes per game

            Quite happy to go with favourites again (but some peoples favourites can be obscure, or others most hated (Wardner ggrrrr), but they cant have been played in the last two years

            Or maybe try a manufactuers MGL where we vote on a manufactuer and random games are plucked from their catalouge each week? (I have put no thought into this)
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            • #7
              Firstly, a big thanks to OOO for offering and taking over the reins of MGL. I will of course keep playing MGL and helping out (scoreboard updates etc.) when possible, but other than that I'd take a back seat and try to play a bit more than I have in the last couple of MGL's.

              My input for the questions:

              I like the 8 game/overlap format and I think it works well. People do tend to drop off towards then end, but this would be the same if we played 6 games I'd imagine Maybe it's because people get to a point where they know they can't win or place in the final results - who knows.

              I'm the same as Foot, I think the starting of each game on a Friday night works a lot better than a Sunday. Sunday night people are thinking about getting back to work, and a lot of guys don't have a chance to pick up the game until the following Friday night or Saturday.

              As for the scoring system, I am a fan of the percentage based system. It's a bit more work to maintain though.

              The game selection/nomination process is always going to be a troublesome issue - some don't like playing the all time favorites, some hate playing new games (new learning curve puts them out of many games unless you've played the game a lot or watched others play it), some hate shooters, some hate maze based. Trouble with excluding games for say the last two years, is that we've had so many new guys join in the last two years that they may not be able to nominate or play one of their favorite games just because of the old timers (of which I guess I am now a member) have played them 18 months ago. So in short, I'm of absolutely no help on this issue

              And lastly, there is a Robot in Zaxxon? Shows how good I am at that game.

              Good luck OOO, I'm sure MGL 19 will be great whatever you/we decide.

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              • #8
                Happy with any format and thanks to all that help run the mgl. Just a suggestion (and only cos its all I have at the moment) how about a 60 in 1 challenge? Randomly selected games might get some new guys interested as its probably the most common board that guys would have in their cabs. Just an idea.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blktgr74 View Post
                  Happy with any format and thanks to all that help run the mgl. Just a suggestion (and only cos its all I have at the moment) how about a 60 in 1 challenge? Randomly selected games might get some new guys interested as its probably the most common board that guys would have in their cabs. Just an idea.

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                  That's not a bad idea, must run off to see what games are on the 60-1, guessing they are mainly pretty popular/mainstream games.

                  EDIT: Just having a look now - scrap that idea, Crush Roller is on 60 in 1 boards and we don't want that game coming up Sorry to derail, just needed to start the Crush V Turtles debate again

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by John73 View Post
                    That's not a bad idea, must run off to see what games are on the 60-1, guessing they are mainly pretty popular/mainstream games.

                    EDIT: Just having a look now - scrap that idea, Crush Roller is on 60 in 1 boards and we don't want that game coming up Sorry to derail, just needed to start the Crush V Turtles debate again
                    Well make it 59 in 1

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                    • #11
                      Like the percentage format for scoring. As for games restrictions on those played in recent mgl's works but as for voting only 1 vote per game nominated.

                      Anyhow whatever is decided thanks to those who organize it and update scoreboards.

                      Made me get off my butt and do some work on cab shells I have been looking at doing something with for ages

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by camaro View Post
                        Like the percentage format for scoring. As for games restrictions on those played in recent mgl's works but as for voting only 1 vote per game nominated.

                        Anyhow whatever is decided thanks to those who organize it and update scoreboards.

                        Made me get off my butt and do some work on cab shells I have been looking at doing something with for ages
                        Thanks for the feedback.
                        How are the cab shells going?
                        What will the machines end up being?


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                        • #13
                          2 are just generic lai cabs which will be mamed (1 for 2 players and the other single player) and the other is a red taito......not sure on that one yet

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Binkles View Post
                            I like the idea of acknowledging the also rans, the ones that complete all the games but didn't get a win etc, but to participated in all 8 games is a victory in its own mind.
                            Thanks Binkles. Agree with you. The idea of the MGL is to have fun and play the best you can, so your post is spot on right for all to enjoy.
                            Besides, if you keep playing, you can only get better with new PBs, and that's a win too.

                            - - - Updated - - -

                            Originally posted by John73 View Post
                            Sorry to derail, just needed to start the Crush V Turtles debate again
                            No matter whether we play favourites again or pick outside the last 2 years, because Turtles was played in favourites of MGL 18, Turtles is out.
                            Now the Roller ... let me see ... hmmmm ... is eligible to be nominated under both schemes.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by OOO View Post
                              Now the Roller ... let me see ... hmmmm ... is eligible to be nominated under both schemes.
                              Hell I'd vote crush roller not only because it's on my list of favourites but for making me play turtles again. You buggers deserve it.

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