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  • GameEX - Windows 98 Crash

    Hi all. I've posted this over the GameEx forums, without much luck. I've got my mame machine up in Windows 98 (Don't even ask why nothing newer, i'm about to throw this AVGA thru a window!) finally, got gameEx loaded, everthing looks schmic. Until, I launch a game from gameEx. mame loads and starts running, but the GameEX process crashes with a GPF! All windows 98 jokes aside, anyone know a way around this? I've had one partially useful response from the official forums, but no closer to actualy resolving it. Wondering if anyone here has come across this and knows how to fix it?

    Crash Result:
    GAMEEX caused a general protection fault
    in module USER.EXE at 001e:00003b01.
    Registers:
    EAX=00000ee0 CS=168f EIP=00003b01 EFLGS=00000246
    EBX=17770417 SS=4fff ESP=000081d0 EBP=00738200
    ECX=00010000 DS=166f ESI=00008200 FS=0ca7
    EDX=00010002 ES=018f EDI=00000000 GS=0c7e
    Bytes at CS:EIP:
    67 66 ab 8b 46 e6 67 66 ab 66 8b 46 e8 67 66 ab
    Stack dump:
    d5bf0ee0 00000f0c 70340000 031f0042 00000257 d5bf0ee0 00000f0c 00000000 00000001 c2270021 00060000 168f2d8c bff714d9 ffff0187 0073e210 79ef018f

    Link to the thread:
    http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php?showtopic=5090

    Thanks if anyone can help!
    Fry: "Wait a second. I know that monkey! His name is 'Donkey'."
    Professor: "Monkeys aren't donkeys. Quit messing with my head!"

  • #2
    If you can, dump Win 98 and use a version of Tiny XP instead. Just as fast with MAME and a shit load more compatable with stuff like Atomic FE, GameEx etc.
    "Beer, it does a belly good!"

    Wanted: Pacman Cab Next Project: Skinny MAME Cab for Samfoot, thread soon, no really. I might even do one on my Pole Position cab!

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    • #3
      Well, like I said, long story..

      I got my AVGA recently, and it came without driver CD. My plan was to use Windows 2000, since it was lightweight, fast and stable. Cannot get the drivers to load. Turns out the ones you can download from ultimarcs website are XP only, still waiting to hear back from Chris from Ozstick about a copy of the Windows 2000 drivers that should have been on the CD. so I figured, ok, I'll use XP. Reformat again, and install XP. Drivers are detected, accepted and load ok, thinking allright, progress! Only to find, hard lockup on first reboot. Every time. i can load them in normal mode, reboot, fail. Load in safe mode, reboot, fail. constantly. Nothing logged, no blue screens, no error messages, nothing in bootlog! If I boot in safe mode, disable the video card, reboot, up it comes again. So windows 2000 is no go until I get drivers, windows XP just locks up! , so leaves windows 98. This has at least managed to get the AVGA drivers loaded and functional!

      All this on top of the fact there is an (unrelated) fault with the AVGA card that I'll now haveto send it back for repair/replacement, this isn't going too well

      gameEX playing up on top of it all hasn't helped *grin*
      Fry: "Wait a second. I know that monkey! His name is 'Donkey'."
      Professor: "Monkeys aren't donkeys. Quit messing with my head!"

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      • #4
        If the OS crashes (both OSs) I would suspect the AVGA hardware problem is more of an issue than you think.
        Sic transit gloria Atari!

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        • #5
          Have you dowloaded all the extra files on the GameEx site relating to windows 98?

          Last I checked you need some extra bits for 98.

          Are you using 98 or 98SE?

          Have you tried tiny XP beast edition? I can mail you a copy if you want. Its a really lean and ideal for MAME.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by vocalninja View Post
            Have you dowloaded all the extra files on the GameEx site relating to windows 98?

            Last I checked you need some extra bits for 98.

            Are you using 98 or 98SE?

            Have you tried tiny XP beast edition? I can mail you a copy if you want. Its a really lean and ideal for MAME.
            Can you e-mail me a copy?

            Matthew

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            • #7
              Originally posted by felixthadog View Post
              Can you e-mail me a copy?

              Matthew
              Tiny XP is tiny in name only.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by vocalninja View Post
                Tiny XP is tiny in name only.
                Oh

                Matthew

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Womble View Post
                  If the OS crashes (both OSs) I would suspect the AVGA hardware problem is more of an issue than you think.
                  @womble: I believe it is driver issues on Windows XP, and Windows 2000 is only affected in that I do not have windows 2000 drivers yet. As I said, the card does have another unrelated fault, and is being sent back for it shortly.

                  The crash on Windows 98 is GameEx only, mame itself runs perfectly.

                  @vocalninja: I believe I have all the extras required, but I'll double check tonight just to be sure. It is Windows 98 SE, with all Windows Updates and latest drivers from manufacturers.

                  I would definitely be interested in this edition of Windows Xp if you don't mind, my email is vidguide@gmail.com

                  Thanks again guys for your suggestions!
                  Fry: "Wait a second. I know that monkey! His name is 'Donkey'."
                  Professor: "Monkeys aren't donkeys. Quit messing with my head!"

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                  • #10
                    If you guys are familier with torrents, please google piratebay.

                    Enter the site, change the language to english and search for tinyXP and download the torrent for "beast" edition.

                    Or pm me and I can mail you a CD-R.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by vocalninja View Post
                      If you guys are familier with torrents, please google piratebay.

                      Enter the site, change the language to english and search for tinyXP and download the torrent for "beast" edition.

                      Or pm me and I can mail you a CD-R.
                      OMG you're a PIRATE!

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                      • #12
                        Consider it queued we'll see how it goes .. my other project cab is going to overtake my mame machine in progress at this rate I think ;D I think i've reformatted that machine about 10 times now trying different OSes
                        Fry: "Wait a second. I know that monkey! His name is 'Donkey'."
                        Professor: "Monkeys aren't donkeys. Quit messing with my head!"

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                        • #13
                          you can use nlite
                          http://www.nliteos.com/

                          and create your own custom windows xp cd in your own home.


                          GPF - general protection faults in 98

                          let me have a quick hunt and see what i can find for you.
                          usually gpf faults are not to tricky to sort out

                          i would check if you have all the nwest drivers installed for hardware including if you have a via chipset mobo that you have intalled the via chip set drivers.

                          also check the pc for virii

                          i found this, it may help
                          http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/...hreadId=581508


                          May 5, 2004 15:47:38 GMT N/A: Question Author
                          Did what you said and now when the system boots up the message is still there plus I have Explorer caused a general protection fault in module USER.EXE at 001e:00003b01
                          Ramesh Pakkath Expert in this area This member has accumulated 1000 or more points
                          May 5, 2004 15:59:15 GMT 10 pts
                          Lets try these steps:
                          1. First use the Ctrl-Alt-Delete button to close down the Windows Registry Checker.
                          2. Then do a search on C: drive for User.dat file.
                          3. Normally you may find one in your profiles folder.
                          4. Right click on that and select Properties. If you do check the byte size, and if it is a zero byte file, Windows made a bad copy of it and wants to replace it but it cannot.
                          5. It already backed up a bad copy. So just delete it, or replace it with the one in the C:\Windows folder.
                          Last edited by @lien_Zed; 4th March 2008, 08:29 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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                          • #14
                            Well, I've certainly had more help here than on the official GameEx forums!

                            It looks like that reference to user.dat is actually a windowsNT feature, I searched for a user.dat on my machine, no matches.. No profiles folder either, I'm pretty sure they both came in with WinNT 4.x

                            Thanks for the idea tho! I'd much raher be running windows 2000 or XP!

                            Also, that nlite looks fantastic .. if only i could get the card to boot in XP at all.. Hopefully when I get the card replaced it'll come with a driver CD, and all will be well!
                            Fry: "Wait a second. I know that monkey! His name is 'Donkey'."
                            Professor: "Monkeys aren't donkeys. Quit messing with my head!"

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                            • #15
                              If you have the revision 2 arcade vga, the Ultimarc video drivers are only compatible with windows 2000 xp etc i think.

                              If you do get win 98 driver i would also be interested in it!
                              Last edited by con; 5th March 2008, 04:22 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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