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markandsophie
6th October 2017, 01:52 PM
Hi I'm new to rc car 4 wheel drive etc. I live on a 4 acre property, my daughter is asking for a remote control car that goes over dirt and grass, whats recommended for a budget of$500

cdbrown
6th October 2017, 02:47 PM
Do you have any LiPos or LiPo chargers? I'm guessing you want something ready to run (RTR) with the controller and a battery pack in the car? What size? There's plenty of options around to suit different conditions but here's a few that might suit.

E-revo 1/16 is a fast little beast https://www.maxpowerrccars.com.au/traxxas-1-16-e-revo-vxl-rtr-with-new-2-4-radio-tra7107.html which will be ok on dirt and grass, as long as it's not long grass.
Something like this https://www.maxpowerrccars.com.au/traxxas-bigfoot-1-10-rtr-monster-truck-firestone-w-xl-5-esc-tq-2-4ghz-radio-battery-dc-charger.html is more designed for the off road having larger tires and greater ground clearance. Will have money left over for additional batteries and spare parts when things break.
A step up https://www.maxpowerrccars.com.au/traxxas-stampede-ep-mt-1-10-4x4-motor-brushed.html

Cheers
-cdbrown

Frank_fjs
6th October 2017, 02:58 PM
I've been out of the game for a while so don't know what's current, but I would recommend a 1/8 scale buggy. The additional ground clearance and wheel base really helps going over grass/dirt/bumpy terrain, they're easier to see at a distance and don't break as easily. Easier to work on too.

I have a Vaterra Glamis Uno I bought a few years ago and it has been the best RC car I've ever owned. So fun to drive, very fast with great handling and near indestructible. Unfortunately it's been discontinued, which is a pity as it was a great car with everything needed included in the box.

FLEX
6th October 2017, 03:12 PM
How old is your daughter?

Frank_fjs
6th October 2017, 03:22 PM
Arma Raider XL BLX

Seems to fit the bill. Buy a better charger and a couple of LiPo batteries and you're good to go.

jason1
6th October 2017, 03:30 PM
If you after a car with a small budget that goes like a shower of shite and you dont care about beating it up, then the HSP stuff will do the job. Not big dollar stuff but good entry level. like $200 for a 4x4 nitro buggy. you can buy them on ebay. and before the brand name boys comment, he has a small budget and they do go good I have a 2 speed nitro buggy and it flys and i treat it like crap. plus the parts are cheap and plenty of upgrades that can be done.
good place to start before moving onto the really good stuff

markandsophie
6th October 2017, 03:46 PM
Daughter is 11, id imagine the younger one who is 9 will want one later, I have no lipo? Whats that, think of me who knows zilch

jason1
6th October 2017, 03:56 PM
Daughter is 11, id imagine the younger one who is 9 will want one later, I have no lipo? Whats that, think of me who knows zilch

Lipo is just a battery.
you need the right charger for it, buy a couple of batteries or else its a short day
If your kids are that age, you wouldnt need anything to special, If thats the case then HSP would be perfect and not to much crying when your kid kills it, plus still enough fun for your self

cdbrown
6th October 2017, 04:03 PM
Daughter is 11, id imagine the younger one who is 9 will want one later, I have no lipo? Whats that, think of me who knows zilch

LiPo - the type of rechargeable battery most electric cars run. Other type is NiMh which is cheaper, slightly lower voltage and is what comes with a lot of RTR cars. I've got a cheap 1/16 Turnigy Beetle from Hobbyking which is pretty simple and quick to drive, however can be easily broken if bashing too much (especially with higher rated batteries). I got it as I could get replacement parts quite easily and I've gone through a few repairs already (mainly after the kids get it and slam it into a kerb. If I get another one I'll be getting a larger scale 4wd truck with more robust gear.

Brk_oth
6th October 2017, 04:14 PM
If you after a car with a small budget that goes like a shower of shite and you dont care about beating it up, then the HSP stuff will do the job. Not big dollar stuff but good entry level. like $200 for a 4x4 nitro buggy. you can buy them on ebay. and before the brand name boys comment, he has a small budget and they do go good I have a 2 speed nitro buggy and it flys and i treat it like crap. plus the parts are cheap and plenty of upgrades that can be done.
good place to start before moving onto the really good stuff

+1 for HSP

Great entry level cars, cheap price but not the really crappy quality.

I've got 12 of them and have had them for I think about 7 years.

I would recommend you look for one with a brushless motor and make sure its 2.4ghz - that makes it very easy if you want to expand and get more for yourself, other kids, friends, etc. 2.4ghz transmitters and receivers allow you to have heaps of cars racing at the same time and have a further range.

The only breakage (besides body kits) that I can think of is one time the steering assembly broke due to an extremely fast head on collision.... so I'm happy with the quality, they seem to be built pretty well for a cheaper price.

FLEX
8th October 2017, 10:44 PM
Daughter is 11, id imagine the younger one who is 9 will want one later, I have no lipo? Whats that, think of me who knows zilch

I got one of these link (https://traxxas.com/products/showroom?f[0]=field_type%3A246) (Body was Grave Digger but there all the same otherwise) for my son at age 4, he is now 7 and still loving it. They have a learner setting that gives about half power, and once they have got the hang of it just set it to full. It went that well I got one also, so much crazy fun with them and they are tough as nails. We do alot of paddock driving and the large wheels make it effortless. May not be the fastest thing around (still plenty fast though), but just perfect for the kids imo.
I have a 1/5th HSP SC gas truck as well and I reckon I have as much fun with traxxas as I do with it, but for different reasons.
Good luck with the search :)

markandsophie
11th October 2017, 03:23 PM
What prices and places would people recommend

Frank_fjs
11th October 2017, 04:19 PM
Do you have a local hobby store nearby? Prices will be through the roof but you can suss out their range, ask questions, receive advice and most importantly find out which spare parts they stock.

You can buy online from USA and Hong Kong etc and save hundreds but you're on your own if something goes wrong.

Hard to give prices unless you specify a model.

jason1
11th October 2017, 04:22 PM
What prices and places would people recommend

If your looking at HSP which is in the $120-$300 bracket, will get you a tonne of fun, you can buy from either http://www.superandcheaper.com.au/c/rc-hobbies-toys/vehicle/11?cn=39%7C170&rf=cn or https://www.hobbywarehouse.com.au/rc-cars-buggies.html

both those places are Ebay sellers as well, I think i got mine from Supercheaper from their ebay listing years and years ago.
Ive bought parts from thier website a few times over the years including alloy suspension upgrades and so on.

My missus has $150 Hsp electric buggy, it goes prety good, I have a nitro.

those Traxxas brand ones FLEX mentioned are good, maybe a bit more expensive than HSP

this is my old Hsp 1/10 scale cost me less than $200 when I got it, its about 7 years old. so has the older transmitter, I have considered upgrading to a 2.4ghz.
but it works fine as it is, they now come with DPS from what Im aware. so this is an older model
But should give you an idea of what they look like

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ricindahunting
13th October 2017, 07:19 AM
HSP. Cheap and awesome!!!!!!! I bought one for my eldest a few yrs ago. On a fresh battery and on grass if you punch it it and I kid you not does a complete flip. It made me think at the time how things have changed from the days of chasing coin to buy and repair bits for my Tamiya Boomerang. The cheapies are pretty stufn good......

markandsophie
14th October 2017, 07:29 PM
Im in Woodend so online it will be,tjanks for the info so far it

markandsophie
2nd November 2017, 09:07 AM
For the hsp stuff is it worth getting 2 batteries with the purchase, how long does it take to charge a battery and how many minutes use do you get out of it. I really am a total newbie with rc,. Pinball machines no probs, rc isnew territory

mckie1
2nd November 2017, 10:45 AM
Hi Buddy. Lachlan's rc has the older style batteries which don't last as long. The li-po's for my rc last for ages.

Our charger can charge very quickly less than 2 hours per battery.

U need to pop down and have a gander [emoji23]

Drop me a line for the 'long weekend' ;)

cdbrown
2nd November 2017, 10:52 AM
I got my son a HSP 1/10 brushed monster truck http://www.superandcheaper.com.au/p/hsp-rc-car-2.4ghz-1-10-electric-4wd-off-road-rtr-r/HSP94111_88046 The thing is large, quick enough for him and good fun. At first he thought it was just some large k-mart type car which are toys, but once he took it outside and turned it on he was very happy. He drives it around first thing in the morning and then after school and is looking forward to taking it to the skate park or bike track on the weekend to give it a proper run. I just need to get my little turnigy beetle fixed up with new front and rear diffs.

I also purchased 4 bigger capacity batteries from hobbyking - https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-stick-pack-sub-c-3000mah-7-2v-nimh-high-power-series.html and they fit fine in the battery holder
Battery duration all depends on what you are doing, going flat stick will chew through quicker say in 10 mins, driving on thick grass will have the same effect. I think my son gets around 20mins+ with the bigger batteries. The charge time is long like 4+ hours. The charger that comes with them turns green when it's charged. Definitely get extra batteries. I went with 4 just coz I know my daughter will probably want one for christmas. I've got a smart charger for charging LiPos and I'm hoping I have the connector so I can charge some up using that at the same time as using the supplied charger.

If you go the brushless pro versions which are closer to $300, these run on LiPo batteries instead of the NiMh of the brushless cars. LiPos have very good run times but make sure to do some reading on proper methods of charging to prevent the cells becoming unbalanced. Good thing with LiPos and a good charger is being able to charge multiple LiPos at the same time.

markandsophie
2nd November 2017, 11:07 AM
Ok time for me to domore reading, thanks for sharing your knowledge

cdbrown
6th November 2017, 05:31 PM
Son took his car out onto a local dirt bmx track on the weekend and had a ball. It had plenty of speed and was great fun bashing around. One of the 3000mah batteries probably lasted 20 minutes which is pretty good. He's still learning how to drive it properly and getting it to run straight was hard due to the gravel and bumps, but he got it up and over all the jumps, getting some air on some. Definitely a lot of fun bashing it around on the dirt. Only issue we had was small pebbles jamming up the steering link but was easily fixed by manually moving the wheels left and right. No damage apart from some scratches to the body thanks to flipping or rolling off the side of the jumps at speed. Tough truck.

markandsophie
7th November 2017, 11:51 AM
I think I've narrowed it down to a traxxas bandit,. I'll get lipo batteries and charger for it
, Ill buy one for myself too as my younger daughter will want to use one once she sees or older sister playing with one. Theres lots of choice out there indeed. Any recommendations on the lipo charger that can charge in 3 hrs and do 2 packs at a time

- - - Updated - - -

The 1/10 Monster truck was too big as the buggy would be able to fit on her desk in her room

jason1
7th November 2017, 12:43 PM
@ markandsophie
there are plenty of fast chargers out there, the fast chargers can reduce the life of your battery sometimes, so keep that in mind, by how much Im not sure.

your spending the bigger money now on a brushless or the regular motors? Remember the bandit is 2WD
And so you need to consider where the motors sit on those cars, they are right down at the rear and open to dirt and water. for the price of one of those with a none brushless Bandit you could buy a brushless motor of other makers which would destroy the none brushless bandit. and the HSP brushless version of the bandit is sealed so you dont get the shit in the motor, it cost around $200
the brushless on those bandits are like $600 if i remember correctly and not sure you would want spend that sort of money on a kids first car which would get destroyed due to the power they have.

Just keep that in mind when choosing your buggy, here is picture of what im talking about, of the traxxas Bandit 2wd buggy beside the HSP 2wd brushless.

the good thing about 4wd Buggies is they have the motors inside the center Main body so you have less to worry about when it comes to dirt compared to the 2wd that have the motor at the back right in the mud and dirt, Traxxas are good cars Im not bagging them just showing some things you may want to consider when buying entry level Traxxas vs the HSP you would buy for cheaper.
I would say the controller on the traxaas would be nicer than the HSP. but controllers can be upgraded like any other car
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MarkOZLAD
10th November 2017, 02:49 PM
Hey guys,

Any opinions on this one?

https://www.gearbest.com/rc-cars/pp_701815.html?currency=AUD&vip=985807&gclid=Cj0KCQiAlpDQBRDmARIsAAW6-DOaffgWMzdwZA9lzzXO0A73IMb14gwpcsLmFFab8Jw2BhVNwMU 26nYaAk3XEALw_wcB

Brushless motor...

buttersoft
10th November 2017, 03:55 PM
Hey guys,

Any opinions on this one?

https://www.gearbest.com/rc-cars/pp_701815.html?currency=AUD&vip=985807&gclid=Cj0KCQiAlpDQBRDmARIsAAW6-DOaffgWMzdwZA9lzzXO0A73IMb14gwpcsLmFFab8Jw2BhVNwMU 26nYaAk3XEALw_wcB

Brushless motor...

http://www1.allaustraliansale.com/index.php?id_product=158060&controller=product

if you trust them, and if that site is even in Aus dollars, which despite the name it probably isn't. EDIT: scratch that, i can't even add it to my cart. Oh well.

60km/h is fricking fast though, i reckon a 7-yr-old will destroy it pretty fast. And have a blast doing so :)

I know nothing about quality though, my RC car experience is at least 20 years old.

jason1
11th November 2017, 01:25 AM
Hey guys,

Any opinions on this one?

https://www.gearbest.com/rc-cars/pp_701815.html?currency=AUD&vip=985807&gclid=Cj0KCQiAlpDQBRDmARIsAAW6-DOaffgWMzdwZA9lzzXO0A73IMb14gwpcsLmFFab8Jw2BhVNwMU 26nYaAk3XEALw_wcB

Brushless motor...

Not sure, it looks ok and might do the job, and it looks like they have copied off the HSP in some levels, but the quality doesnt look as good
not sure how upgradable that is or what parts are available. It would be ok im guessing but 1:16 is pretty small and the HSP would be quicker and better off road if 1:10 scale
Id still look at hsp, the price isnt any different for a 1:16 HSP which you can buy parts for, here is the difference, you can see how they have copied many aspects, but the servo's and ESC is different, and the body looks a bit more tougher on the HSP
I guess the pro to the gearbest one is it has a Lipo and the HSP Nimh as an included battery, but that doesnt stop you from putting a lipo in

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here is the listing of the HSP 1:16 they have based the gear best one off. But personally I think you would have much more fun with 1:10 scale at least. you could bash it around allot more and would be less of a toy.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HSP-Trojan-1-16-94185-pro-electric-Brushless-4WD-OFFROAD-RC-BUGGY-2-4GHZ-RTR/282530470286?hash=item41c820d98e:g:zKwAAOSwB09YRUZ N



if you trust them, and if that site is even in Aus dollars,
I have bought from Gearbest before, Not RC stuff, but they are not a bad china company. they are a pretty well known website for Chinese stuff often cheaper than ebay and they have better quality control and good warranty which they do honor.
But they are what they are, which is a cheap Chinese selling website. some stuff is good some stuff is crap as you would expect, but not a bad company to deal with often easier than dealing with ebay sellers.
They thankfully arent fly by nighters, hope that helps

Skywalker
18th November 2017, 04:39 PM
Stay away from nitro noisy, smelly & needs frequent tuning its not for beginners,
electric all the way with Lipo's around 5000Mah ++ if you can justify it.
Try to get a charger that has dual charging outlets & built in power supply if ya going to stay in the hobby long term,
Stay away from the no name junkie brands, spares parts will kill you & local shops wont help you,
Check out your local hobby stores & ask what they recommend & brand names they back up, might be wise to buy local, tho you'll pay more you will get the support,
Reputable brand RTR kit would be the go,
Cheap R/C is not worth the head fks

jason1
18th November 2017, 05:08 PM
Stay away from nitro noisy, smelly & needs frequent tuning its not for beginners,
electric all the way with Lipo's around 5000Mah ++ if you can justify it.
Try to get a charger that has dual charging outlets & built in power supply if ya going to stay in the hobby long term,
Stay away from the no name junkie brands, spares parts will kill you & local shops wont help you,
Check out your local hobby stores & ask what they recommend & brand names they back up, might be wise to buy local, tho you'll pay more you will get the support,
Reputable brand RTR kit would be the go,
Cheap R/C is not worth the head fks

Yer you dont buy Nitro if your not prepared todo the work.
they can be a pain in the arse, the Electrics are good for the reason you can just chuck in a battery and off you go with less prep and nonsense.
But in saying that Nitro is awesome, I get more of a buzz from Nitro cars than Electric rc, there is a massive thrill I get from Nitro Rc's,
but ease of use, Electrics win hands down