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ROLLERBALL
8th May 2007, 08:00 PM
Ok this is what Im up against

The machine is now %99 as far as electrics

the fun is going to start soon on trying to restore the playfield

ROLLERBALL
8th May 2007, 08:03 PM
more problems

ROLLERBALL
8th May 2007, 08:09 PM
here it is

ROLLERBALL
8th May 2007, 08:10 PM
Any tips apart for bin it???

lol

hamish_nz
8th May 2007, 08:43 PM
It might take some time but you could retouch it.
the hardest part will be the type.
You could try a fine art restorer if you wanted to spend some $$$

@lien_Zed
8th May 2007, 09:04 PM
talk to user darksoul i think from memory. i bought a pinball restore dvd from him.very interesting and learnt a lot.im sure he could point you in the right direction

Strangeways
8th May 2007, 09:38 PM
None of these pictures look like problems. They are "challenges".

Never "bin a pin"... At the very least, learn how to restore artwork, starting with this playfield.

Start off by sourcing some scans / or read up on playfield restoration

ROLLERBALL
9th May 2007, 06:35 AM
Yeah im going to have a good go at it...

Im sure i can make some photoshop scans to
put on the playfield like darksoul did in the video
but I think he uses Mylar over the playfield
Not sure about that
maybe mylar could be the way to go???

Mickey Juice
9th May 2007, 11:08 AM
Similar to what I'm doing to my Funhouse, you could probably airbrush alot of the areas ie that red area down the bottom. Being geometric shapes it would be easy to mask off and spray (rather than 'touch up' a small spot, you repaint the entire area)

First thing I'd do is strip it completely (the parts, not the playfield paint ;)) and clean it up and see what you've got.

Next suggestion is to READ as much as you can ie a google group search and read Clay's guides here:
http://www.marvin3m.com/fix.htm
http://www.pinrepair.com/restore/

Ric
9th May 2007, 11:33 AM
reading rocks

I needed to touch up a Super star playfield - used acrylics with a brush rather than an airbrush

but Mickey is right - start by stripping the playfield and cleaning it - you need to match colours with the cleaned playfield - not the dirty colours

ROLLERBALL
9th May 2007, 11:42 AM
yeah I dont have an airbrush
as the pics Im on my way to stripping and cleaning

the red area down the bottom is white with red writing
but is completely gone

thats one area along with the 50 points logos that Ive been thinking about
doing a photo shop and print job and try and stick to the playfield
I think it would look better than trying to paint the numbers and letters on by hand..

hamish_nz
9th May 2007, 11:52 AM
another option for the type is to get rub down lettering from a hobby shop.

www.letraset.com

comes in lots of colours and sizes

looks like theydo custom work as well

Mickey Juice
9th May 2007, 01:14 PM
another option for the type is to get rub down lettering from a hobby shop.

www.letraset.com

comes in lots of colours and sizes

looks like theydo custom work as well

Is letraset stuff easy to get in Australia? Other than the bog standard Helvetica fonts?

hamish_nz
9th May 2007, 03:59 PM
Not sure but in new zealand you can get at art shops who supply the design industry.

Not a huge range of fonts, but most early games used simple font.

Cant remember the name of the shop but there is a shop in center sydney near the
post office, they may stock it

ROLLERBALL
12th May 2007, 10:03 PM
Ok well Im just over halfway through my touchups...

Im not going overboard

just touching it up best i can in the worse spots

then not going to clear-cote or anything

just give it 3 or 4 layers of wax

ROLLERBALL
2nd July 2007, 09:52 PM
Ok guys The funland is at least now up to the point that you can play a good game on it...Im stoked...its looking good...

3 or 4 globes to fix...but all playfield numbers ect globes working

just some under the plastics to fix

touchups all done and playfield waxed with 4 coats

Ive fixed the flipper problems...they both work about %85 of what I would like but you can play a game with them

the flippers had only about %45 of the power so they are heaps better now...but thinking of getting new coils for them...

the pop bumpers are fairly crappy...I think they probably are only running at %10 or %20 of power...also thinking of getting new coils for them as well..

all coils have new sleeves

Backglass has had the tripple thick treatment...but has been left untouched at this stage and is flacking in spots but Its ok with me at the moment as it is an old machine anyway...and cab paint is original

all new rubbers on the playfield...

all score reels fixed up as 2 where jammed with gunk....

stepper unit in the back was dead...had to hacksaw off the main pivot rod and replace...came up sweet as...

anyway thats about where Im up to on it...

cheers

paul

Strangeways
2nd July 2007, 09:59 PM
When you take a break from playing it - could you post a couple of pix ?

ROLLERBALL
2nd July 2007, 10:07 PM
Will do...no worries

ROLLERBALL
8th July 2007, 08:04 PM
I wound off 3 layers of coil wire from each pop bumper today...

and the machine caught on fire...lol

just joking

its made a big difference to the pop bumpers...Im quite happy now..

so that saved me a bit of cash as I was going to buy new coils...


could the same thing be done to flipper coils??
maybe not as I think they are a different animal or am I wrong??

Strangeways
8th July 2007, 08:15 PM
I wound off 3 layers of coil wire from each pop bumper today...

and the machine caught on fire...lol

just joking

its made a big difference to the pop bumpers...Im quite happy now..

so that saved me a bit of cash as I was going to buy new coils...


could the same thing be done to flipper coils??
maybe not as I think they are a different animal or am I wrong??

I have no idea how many EM's I've owned and fixed over the years. I have never had to remove windings on a coil to "improve" performance. :rolleyes

Have you checked the manual to see if the right coils are in your game ?

ROLLERBALL
8th July 2007, 09:36 PM
Have the schematics but cant see the part number on it for bumper coils...I thought I had the number but seems it was the relay for the bumpers I was looking at,

anyway they are working good now so problem solved...was easy to do as well

ok here are pics as I promised...

comrade.vader
9th July 2007, 12:40 AM
i guess you would lower the coil resitance therefore improving the kick, temporally (im too drunk to spell) never thought of that one