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robm
4th March 2013, 07:02 PM
Well now that Fishtales is done and being enjoyed by a new owner, its time to move on to the next possum pin (see http://www.aussiearcade.com/showthread.php/55269-Pinball-Adventure-Shed-Stash-10 for details of the find)

Originally when i looked at this machine once i got it home, i thought the cabinet was totally stuffed....maybe it is in most other's opinion, but the sides are very sturdy with only a few small chunks and scrapes, its the MDF base and chipboard back of the headbox that have made it look so bad (plus the inch of possum crap and urine....). So the plan is to bog up the dings in the sides, and replace the base and rear panel. A possum had actually chewed through the base of this machine and quite possibly had a possum rave party inside, as there are chunks of the base spread through the whole cabinet....

A few pics that tell most of the story


Note the bowed base
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3335_zpsf4fffae7.jpg

As with Fishtales, the playfield is reasonably good - no wear, just filthy
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3336_zps2cfc1800.jpg


Has some serious issues here
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3339_zps857b4037.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3340_zps73e7f7ad.jpg

Note secret possum entrance hole on the left side of the base

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3341_zpsbdcba7d4.jpg


As with the previous machines, i was a bit nervous about the electronics, so only had the transformer wired up, and straight away blew the main fuse in the machine. Replaced the line filter, and it fired up no worries.

Tested all the outputs of the transformer, and they were all good.

I then connected the boards up (after cleaning some minor corrosion on the CPU and installing a remote battery pack) and fired it up. Solid 5.03V, and 12V which is great! CPU boots no worries, display board needs some work on the high voltage section as the difference between the two outputs is too great (should be 12V difference, but this one is -96V and -122V), so will look at that later. I'm getting no sound at all from the machine. Sound board has correct input and output voltages, speakers are not blown (tested with a 9V battery and got them to pull in), so is probably a wiring issue somewhere that will be easier to track down once clean.

Since the machine is 80% working (a couple of solenoids won't fire, put you can start a game and most switches test OK), i hooked straight into the stripping process.

Picture of the base of the cab partially stripped

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3352_zps9f942447.jpg

Close up of the 'seedy end of town'....
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3362_zpscd182e8e.jpg


With absolutely everything out of the cab and siderails removed, i started stripping the cabinet decals. I've found that the best way seems to be peeling the decals off by hand - with a scraper to help start. This way, all the adhesive comes off. If you use a heatgun, the adhesive remains, and it take longer and is more work getting rid of it all. That said, its still a slow process. The side pictured below took me about 45 mins to get what you can see done. Note how the original decal outline has transferred to the cabinet!

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3377_zps3307d85b.jpg

furballx
4th March 2013, 07:15 PM
You trying to make me look bad Rob??? :)
Let me know if you need any photos, I took plenty.
Dave

Railways
4th March 2013, 09:56 PM
Crikey Rob, I hope youve had your Hep B shots, yukk.

Darksoul
4th March 2013, 11:58 PM
Crikey Rob, I hope youve had your Hep B shots, yukk.

Hep B? how about rabies!!!

sleazius
5th March 2013, 08:50 AM
Those machines are a shocker, I don't know how you do it ;)

judgeboz
5th March 2013, 09:06 AM
a good example of a Australian Delivered machine :-)

Fire_Power
5th March 2013, 11:22 AM
You're a brave man. Will be great to watch progress.

robm
5th March 2013, 05:07 PM
a good example of a Australian Delivered machine :-)

Ha Ha good one, i've always thought the Oz delivered thing was a bit meaningless..

slevbro
5th March 2013, 10:48 PM
Thats alot work there.

I do like how the decal is on wood.Wonder how it would look with a sand and light stain.

luke
7th March 2013, 08:05 AM
Man I thought I was mad. But I know why you do it. It the best feeling when you have completed a job hey.
Its not that hard it just takes passion and motivation. Awesome work mate

Dice275o
7th March 2013, 08:10 AM
Not sure why but I LOVE that last pic. The way the cab is all woodgrain with the logo 'burned' into the side. Makes for a really interesting look...

bondy
7th March 2013, 03:31 PM
Getaway is my favourite machine. I love this

robm
7th March 2013, 07:02 PM
Thats alot work there.

I do like how the decal is on wood.Wonder how it would look with a sand and light stain.

I thought about that, but one side is lighter than the other, so might look a bit strange, plus once i fill some dings up with bog, its gunna look ordinary

- - - Updated - - -


Man I thought I was mad. But I know why you do it. It the best feeling when you have completed a job hey.
Its not that hard it just takes passion and motivation. Awesome work mate

Thanks Luke, yeah i just love looking back at the pictures of what it was, great satisfaction. Plus I enjoy the challenge of taking on something that some others would write off.

JoshZ
7th March 2013, 08:54 PM
Another example of incredible bravery shown by you Rob to tackle such a project .. matched only by amazing skill. How you see the future of a game in such tragic condition always has me scratching my head, but I know you love it and love the challenge. That's the great part about it I reckon, you make the impossible seem achievable.

Amazing work and thank you again for the inspiration to keep going and always persisting.

robm
9th March 2013, 06:26 PM
Have put quite a few hours in today and afternoons the last week. Finished stripping the cabinet decals and headbox. Knocked the base out as it was all swollen, as was the rear of the headbox

The first job was to clean up the possum mess and crud. While it looks disgusting, its not that hard to remove with the right stuff. First hit was with orange stain remover, let it sit for a few minutes, then used a cabinet scraper (in the left of photo) to scrape the bulk up.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3379_zps8f037f07.jpg

After this, i then sprayed it with Nifti, and then wiped off with a rag. Honestly, Nifti is one of the best cleaners i have ever come across - the area in front of the bottle is what the rest was like before spraying with Nifti and wiping off!

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3381_zps9f5947ed.jpg

Then went to work with builders bog.

There was a lot of areas where the cabinet was delaminating - just a few mm on the bottom edge, so its no point going to the effort of doing work and leaving stuff that will get worse in time to come. So i chipped back the areas where it was delaminating, then filled with bog, and sanded. Its a fairly time consuming process as i never seem to get it all done in one or two batches. The stuff goes of very quickly (normally within a few minutes its not really workable), so it means you have to go quick, but the beauty is that it can be sanded within 30 mins (20 mins if you add a bit more hardener). I use a round random orbital sander and it makes life a lot easier than the old 1/3 sheet rectangular one i had, due to the fact this one rotates as well as vibrates - makes things heaps quicker. I used 80 grit paper to level the bog, then 120 and 240.

A couple of shots of the cabinet and headbox, all sanded and bogged and ready to be hit with spray putty. I use this to fill in any wood grain or small dings that get missed with the builders bog. Talking to a bloke in the paint shop, he reckons its probably overkill, and i could get away with a cheaper (and easier to use) car primier undercoat that has reasonable build properties, but i've got 4L of spray putty, so will use it first, then try the other stuff with later machines.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3398_zps79da3b0c.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3399_zpsc654bf14.jpg

JoshZ
9th March 2013, 07:38 PM
Great pics Rob. I think I would have been gagging with the cleaning bit though arrrrrrghhhhhhh. I have never heard of nifti, can I ask where you buy that .. looks like it cleaned up the mess awesomely.

Nice work with the bogging and sanding, very thorough stuff.

I'd love to come and watch you at work but I might get just a bit tempted to sit in that beautiful and relaxing gazebo with a coldie and play with your dog ;). Great looking place you have mate.

robm
9th March 2013, 08:15 PM
Thanks mate, yeah the place had no gardens or anything when we bought it, so plenty of hard work to get it to how it is now.

You can get nifti at some supermarkets Coles generally stock it, but not every store

JoshZ
9th March 2013, 08:36 PM
I know the feeling .. the project list I have at the moment is endless. You've done great work, it looks sensational.
Look forward to coming up soon ...
I'll check out if I can find Nifti. Never hurts to have another cleaner on hand particularly if it's a good one. I'm using one at the moment that Mr Feldwick gave to me, I'm not sure what's in it but it's awesome. Cleaned up my coin door and various metallic pieces that came up a treat even before polishing. (i need a buffer or something though).
Continued best wishes with your project, can't wait to see the updates as they come along.
Cheers, bret

Pash
9th March 2013, 10:03 PM
Nice work Rob. Good to see another pinball being saved. The decal stain on the cabinet looked good, shame the other side wasn't as good. Would have been great with a sand and stain as some have said. Thanks for sharing mate.

scarz
10th March 2013, 07:35 AM
I love your work, i would not dream of taking on something like that

robm
23rd March 2013, 08:52 PM
Have done quite a bit over the last little while, a few coats of spray putty, then sand back and check for areas i might have missed a small nick or scratch, refill, sand, spray etc. Once it was good enough, i sprayed the edges in black - so when the decals are trimmed, there is black behind them.

Installed a new base in the main cabinet once i had sprayed all the inside black.

Then spent a lot of time cleaning all the cabinet hardware, spraying all the bolt heads black, getting rid of more gunk from everywhere.

Then put most of the stuff back in the headbox, and threw the decals on (wet method).

Also put the front decal on the main cabinet, but will need some assistance to put the side decals on.

A few shots of it starting to look like a decent machine....

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3424_zpsdc68ef54.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3425_zps5a583025.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3427_zps89698a77.jpg

Also tidied up things like the lockdown bar - sprayed with a chrome paint, and installed new warning and other stickers

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3428_zps21d3f0fb.jpg

hotty
25th March 2013, 06:10 PM
Great job I too have done a Getaway resto. but those who have done this sort of thing before know it really is a labor of love, and very time consuming especially if you put the effort in preparing the cabinet as you have.
Well done.

robm
25th March 2013, 10:02 PM
Now have got all the decals installed with relative ease - still need to tidy up the corners with a sharpie or paint pen when these photos were taken

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3438_zpsa4c01bd2.jpg

Now since there is not much info on applying decals via the wet method, i took a video of my wife and I installing them. Now this is how it works for me, i'm no expert, so happy to take suggestions from others. Hmmm sad to see how little hair i have at 35 - but the wife is looking great at 30 weeks pregnant!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SCk4Hqk4Ek&feature=youtu.be

JoshZ
26th March 2013, 01:42 AM
The absolute best video tutorial ever .. I learned heaps but also it was fun. Great work Rob and special commendation to your wife for a brilliant job in helping your out.
A really great way to learn in a down to earth and practical way (QLD way ;)).
Thanks heaps.

Fire_Power
26th March 2013, 07:09 AM
Great video - thanks. I reckon you are brave to set the camera up as that would normally ensure something goes horribly wrong. Also not the normal "wife and I" style vids you see on the net :lol

robm
10th April 2013, 05:59 PM
Well i got sick of it not being finished and hooked in over the last couple of weeks - a bit hard to remember as i didn't document heaps or take a heap of photos. But pretty much in terms of stripping and cleaning, got the playfield bare, spent a while with Nifti, shellite and magic eraser getting rid of all the filth such as below

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3543_zps6940f2e7.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3472_zps349292f2.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3474_zpsfec8d5e1.jpg

Then cleaned all the bits and pieces, rebuild flippers etc. A lot of the mechanisms (particularly the ramp lifter at the back had grease applied at some stage, and were almost completely seized with dry grease - so plenty of time getting rid of this and leaving things unlubricated as they should be.

Spent a lot of time on the boards, making sure everything was right.

Ended up blowing the 602 Fuse after a while on the display driver board - turned out to be the DMD being faulty - so in went a brand new one!

Also could not get sound at all out of the machine - after a lot of searching and frustrations, it turned out to be the connector on the cabinet speaker was corroded/filled with gunk so much that it wasn't making a connection - so the signal wasn't getting around the circuit. So put a new connector in, plus a new cabinet speaker. After that, i was getting a crackling/distorted sound, so put another sound board in from one of the other project machines, and got some impressive fireballs from the tantalum capacitors - C21, C26-C29, C46 and C47 - after i replaced all them, i got full volume with no ability to turn it down! Replaced C18 and it was all good.

Also had a dead TIP102 transistor on the power driver board that was not allowing the trough coil to fire a ball - replaced the TIP102 and its pre-driver transistor, and works perfectly.

Cleaned the whole wiring loom with Nifty, and put new flexi coil on most of the wiring and tidied it all up a lot better.

I also painted the supercharger cover in chrome paint which made a huge difference

Also made up a new laminated cover for the ball launcher

After that, put most of the cab bot together

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3562_zpsd3a63733.jpg

Then got the playfield half back together before putting back into the machine (so i could test switches etc as i installed them)

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3563_zps5fecc29b.jpg

At this stage when i put the supercharger ramp in, i was getting an opto error with two of the optos, traced the issue to the opto driver board, and put a new LM339 chip in to sort it out and all worked sweet. Its much easier to test things as you rebuild it, rather than find an issue, then have to pull things half to pieces just to access it!

Then spent some time playing with LEDs to get a decent effect - ended up with a combo of mainly greens and whites in the GI, as well as some reds - again, easy to experiment with the playfield partially rebuilt
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3565_zps1106a46b.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3567_zps8ab83134.jpg

Then pretty much all came together well from there
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3570_zps08ce3f6b.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3571_zps562059b9.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3573_zps8ceeabdd.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3574_zpsbf745c25.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3575_zpsfc5c6bb9.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3581_zpsbba64579.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3583_zpsfb1c6790.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/rjmilla/IMG_3585_zpse43afd86.jpg

After that, time for the first game - and managed to get redline mania on ball 1! So pretty happy with that.

Game plays very fast, sounds great and flippers are great with all new components

Railways
10th April 2013, 07:38 PM
:023: Well done Rob. Looks great,chalk another one up:).

bigdaddy
10th April 2013, 11:44 PM
That's a sweet ride. Nice resto work :applause:

mookie3three
10th April 2013, 11:51 PM
Well done. That's awesome.

Nick64
11th April 2013, 05:07 PM
Fantastic job Rob everything done to perfection .. great looking game now ..

NMD
11th April 2013, 05:12 PM
Awesome work!!

JoshZ
11th April 2013, 06:14 PM
As always Rob .. WOW! That is freakin' fantastic.
I love all the extra little touch ups you do and how fastidious you are.
Exceptional and amazing job bringing her back from PossumLand. Congratulations.

Homepin
11th April 2013, 06:35 PM
Do you feel like a holiday in Cairns for a couple of weeks Rob? I have a couple of pins here that need your touch ;) (bring your wallet as well :lol)

JoshZ
12th April 2013, 04:25 PM
Hehe .. bugger that Homepin, I'm luring him to Mackay first :)


Do you feel like a holiday in Cairns for a couple of weeks Rob? I have a couple of pins here that need your touch ;) (bring your wallet as well :lol)