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Fish Tales
28th July 2012, 04:15 PM
Picked this up today from Edy. I once owned the 2 player version Card Whiz, and allways missed it. This one is very much a project machine, hasnt worked for decades maybe, and somewhat neglected somewhere in France (container pin, bought in a few years ago). Looks to be complete, be it rusty in places, and alot of what's plastic on the playfield has been smashed. The PF is excellent, well hopefully still so after the mylar comes off. Quite alot of work in it for me, but its one of the best players of its era, so well worth my time and money to fix. The BG is okish, good enough for me anyway. Thinking about using 90's posts, and spraying some of the crome bits (rusty) with colored paint, then clear them. PBR sell everything I need for this one, but I dunno, maybe a bit of moderisation wont look bad at all. How would a purple apron look, with a red lockdown bar?

Pics:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/july2012027.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/july2012028.jpg

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http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/july2012032.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/july2012033.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/july2012034.jpg

illawarra_steelers
28th July 2012, 04:36 PM
Yes, like this very much :cool:

Second best Gottlieb pin of all time...really looking forward to watching you restore this Greg.

She looks heaps better than how you described it!

Yes, really like your ideas of going away from the factory output :)

femto
28th July 2012, 04:38 PM
That should come up a treat. My Card Whiz is slowly coming together but I am up to the playfield stage and someone has removed the mylar and damaged the paint near the targets. Not sure how I am going to fix that but will see. Good luck with your resto.

JOKERPOKER
28th July 2012, 04:45 PM
Probably how mine looked before the resto. Good playfield so a bonus.

illawarra_steelers
28th July 2012, 04:52 PM
Hey Greg, PM me your mailing address and I'll send up 3x buttons for the flippers and credit unit

Pash
28th July 2012, 05:37 PM
Looks like a nice machine Greg. Will be good to see how this progresses. Looking forward to the restore.

clarky351
28th July 2012, 05:41 PM
Best of luck Greg it looks like a good solid base to start a project with :-)

Fire_Power
28th July 2012, 06:28 PM
Looks pretty good to start with. Will be interesting to see the reno progress, particularly the mylar removal. Looks like it's torn down near the eject hole and a few sunk inserts so has to be done I guess.
From what you can see of the mylar around the edges it looks like it is pretty thick and has shrunk over time, so hopefully it comes off cleanly.
I'll watch keenly as I have a Card Whiz that needs a lot of work.

goodolddays
29th July 2012, 10:43 AM
Looks like a great starting point Greg . That door is in heaps better nick than the 2 Gottliebs I have .
Will watch your progress with interest .

Fish Tales
29th July 2012, 01:56 PM
Mylar removal done, and dusted :cool: Heated the mylar with the hair-dryer, whilst the missus pulled gently (lol), and stopped every few inches to clean the glue away with euclyptus oil. Removed no paint at all, but discovered some loss where the mylar had worn through in places. Very happy with the results, and would definately remove mylar again (2nd time lucky Jeff ;) ). Will look great after a polish with novus, just have to pop up the insert between the flippers first, the rest are flat :cool:.The top third of the PF was never mylared, so it will get the magic eraser treatment.

Pics:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushmylar001.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushmylar002.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushmylar004.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushmylar008.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushmylar009.jpg

the top section will need magic erasering

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushmylar012.jpg

billstats
29th July 2012, 09:26 PM
That mylar protected the original paint very well!give it a few squirts of wax ,& it will come up great!..:realmad:

Dedrok
29th July 2012, 09:48 PM
Nice work on the removal of the mylar Greg, them colors look nice under that. remind me about the flipper bats.

Pity it wasnt all the way up like Spirit. Next sunny day I might attack it.

MrMaloo
29th July 2012, 10:03 PM
Great job on the mylar removal Greg ( and Mrs. Greg too ) . This pin should come up a treat when finished . Look forward to having a game when it's done .

em_pins
30th July 2012, 05:31 AM
One of my favourite EM machines. I have recently restored a 'Card Whiz' , all completed however the backglass is in poor condition. In your case the Shay Group have made a reproduction for your title. I did ask them about a reproduction 'Card Whiz' and was told they had no intentions of making one. I am planning on redrawing a reproduction myself, however this will take alot work and time. From the pictures of your machine, it looks to be in fairly good condition and will come up a treat. Looking forward to seeing the progress. Below is a link which outlines my recent restore.

http://www.oldpinballs.com/card%20whix%20restore.html

Fire_Power
30th July 2012, 12:30 PM
Must be a relief (nb. tenuous link to wife joke :lol) to have finished the mylar removal.

Looks like it will come up really nicely, thanks for the pics, keep 'em coming.

Fish Tales
30th July 2012, 01:37 PM
Yeah, so many doom and gloom stories about mylar removal, but all you need is the missus, her hair dryer, and some euc. oil. I did get the playfield pretty hot though, maybe that is the trick. Will start on the rust removal tommorrow.

Nick64
31st July 2012, 07:14 AM
Greg those colours look bright as under the mylar great job , just a ? when you use magic eraser at the top of the playfield what will be on the eraser any chemicals . I used novis2 with eraser on my BOP and went a bit to far where there was no mylar had to touch it up ...

Fish Tales
31st July 2012, 07:28 AM
I use shellite mate, and yes check your progress when MEing. I have also gone a little far, and taken paint down to wood. Stop Meing when you think the PF looks OK, when you start to get fussy, is when you can go too far.

Fish Tales
2nd August 2012, 11:34 AM
Some more progress, I have been dismantling the playfield, and fixing rusty metal as I go. Wire brush on the drill does the job, and other small bits sandpaper. You have to leave a little rust on the metal, so that the rust converter can do its job. Not going to re-chrome anything, instead I will spray the metal bits with a combo of red, and purple paint. As I pull this apart I start to wonder wether this should be a parts machine, the rust has really done a number on it, so many screws breaking-off inside the PF as I remove them, rusty plungers, light sockets etc. But with a very good PF, solid cab, fairly decent BG, ton of new parts available, and the fact I love the game, well it's going to be worth it in the end. Plus it's an enjoyable job :cool:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflush2ndset027.jpg

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illawarra_steelers
2nd August 2012, 12:07 PM
nothing that cant be restored there mate..keep the updates coming and if you need parts ask away

Fire_Power
2nd August 2012, 12:31 PM
..... As I pull this apart I start to wonder wether this should be a parts machine, the rust has really done a number on it, so many screws breaking-off inside the PF as I remove them, rusty plungers, light sockets etc. But with a very good PF, solid cab, fairly decent BG, ton of new parts available, and the fact I love the game, well it's going to be worth it in the end. Plus it's an enjoyable job :cool:

Got to agree it's worth saving. Maybe lineball as an economic proposition, but such a good looking machine and the important bits are in very presentable condition. It'll be worth it when you're finished - the value of satisfaction is limitless :)

Great pics too - thanks for posting them.

Foot
2nd August 2012, 09:01 PM
I've noticed that I've had to work a lot harder to get bring some parts back up to scratch on Duotron than I had to on Firepower. Maybe it was a different finish used by the two makers or just the extra almost decade of age.

I still love cleaning some bits and finding them gleaming like new, makes it worth while.

Keep at it EB!

Fish Tales
21st September 2012, 12:04 PM
Started to paint the bits that had surface rust, decided the go custom colors on this, and think it will look good, certainly will be different anyway. I hope that clear-coat will protect the paint-work from the ball hitting into it, time will tell I guess. Coindoor clean-up with ranex quite well, and back of it I treated with ranex, and undercoated. The lockdown mechanism I just cleared over the undercoat. The chimebox looks good now, the rust treated, and a quick spray of hammertone. I used a spongy lino in the base of the chimes, I have used it before and it seems to take the bashing of the chime plungers really well.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushresto3001_zps3922f968.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushresto2004_zps8f65902f.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushresto2007_zps54dffd6b.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushresto2005_zps95831ac5.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushresto3002_zps22403dd0.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/Gwind/royalflushresto3003_zpsbb577def.jpg

goodolddays
21st September 2012, 05:25 PM
That door came up really well Greg

femto
21st September 2012, 06:28 PM
My Card Whiz playfield is pretty shit....are you sure you don't want to part it and sell me your playfield? All that rust....but seriously, good job and keep going. Unless you really want to sell your playfield. LOL

Fish Tales
22nd September 2012, 07:28 AM
yep, you can have the playfield for 1200. Surface rust is an easy fix, just time consuming to treat it. This old pin will be going strong, and playing great for decades to come.

illawarra_steelers
19th November 2012, 09:41 AM
What is the serial number on this game Greg? Picked up (as you know) a Royal Flush from the same original stash last weekend..serial number 7449

Any updates? :)

Fish Tales
19th November 2012, 09:56 AM
serial on the front of cab is 069 then possibly 83, hard to tell as the last two digits have been damaged. I have been making a slow job it Tony, maybe 30mins at a time, a few days a week, when I feel enthusiastic. No updates really, but I will get there!

Homepin
19th November 2012, 10:03 AM
Nice overspray on the pliers, near the date roll :lol

I now have all the bits for the audio project.......

Fish Tales
19th November 2012, 11:25 AM
audio project :cool:

stuba
19th November 2012, 03:30 PM
you are not just a pretty face and sexy body greg :-P
nice job!

Fish Tales
19th November 2012, 05:20 PM
lol

femto
19th November 2012, 05:24 PM
serial on the front of cab is 069 then possibly 83, hard to tell as the last two digits have been damaged

When removing the cards from the headbox of my Card Whiz I found my serial number stamped on the back of the Point Score Adjustment card which did match the number stamped into the front panel.

Fish Tales
19th November 2012, 06:25 PM
wondered where it would be replicated :cool: