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Frank_fjs
24th November 2010, 12:08 AM
Anyone here into electric radio controlled helicopters?

I used to be into cars, both electric & gas, in a big way but that was a long time ago. Have also built and flown gas powered planes too, but that was also a long time ago.

Now it looks like helis will be the new fad. I've ordered a Syma S107 and a Pheonix 6010, hopefully they arrive in a couple of weeks.

Originally, I had heard good things about the Syma but apparently they changed a circuit board in later revisions that really restricts their flight. For this reason I have ordered a 6010 as well, in case my Syma is a dud.

These are both classified as 'toys' but they are cheap (around $30 each) and I wanted to learn on something that I can crash without fear. They're quite tiny and designed for indoor flight too, should be fun chasing the dogs with it down the hallway or trying to land it on the wife's head.

Will be looking into getting something more advanced once I'm bored with these two (knowing me, that will take all of 2 weeks). Looking at a blade, not sure which one yet, still learning all the jargon (single rotor, coaxial, 3ch, 4ch, bla bla bla).

Here are some short, to the point videos of the helis that I have ordered:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSPi54JuEiU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u96IEvcvYxY

If anyone else here is into them, I'd love for you to impart your wisdom.

Homepin
24th November 2010, 05:26 AM
There are literally thousands of Chinese companies churning these out - I wouldn't place much 'value' on ANY name attached to them as there are all sorts of "copies of copies of copies" all over the place.

Good fun and amazing value for $30 though, regardless - you have to admit!

wingtipvortex
24th November 2010, 06:19 AM
Started out on coaxial helis, lots of fun. Then moved on to Honey Bee King2 collective pitch 6 channel. Now fly regularly at the Phantom Flyers club using TRex450, TRex 500, TRex 550 Hurricane 550 all lipo helis. In a few weeks will be going inverted on a TRex 700 nitro, now that will be fun.

I wouldn't bother with the Blade CP. Once you are done with the coaxials, go to a TRex 450. Its a rock solid heli and forgiving for a beginner. You will need a decent balanced charger, and get yourself a Futaba 401 gyro.

A decent transmitter is a Spektrum DX7, and they are around $200 atm.......CHEAP.
Anyway have fun with the coaxials, then move on to CP.

Frank_fjs
24th November 2010, 12:09 PM
Thanks Wingtip, will have a look at the TRex 450.

Where can you get a Spektrum DX7 for $200?

wingtipvortex
24th November 2010, 04:13 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SPEKTRUM-DX7-7-Channel-HELI-Transmitter-SPMR7710-MODE-2-/130444417185?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e5f17d8a1

There are 4 modes to choose from, the most common being mode1 and 2. You can learn on mode1 but you wont be able to change easily. The different modes relate to what the sticks do. Id suggest mode2, which is more than likely what your coaxials will be. Just ask if you have questions mate, you can learn from my mistakes:lol

http://i55.tinypic.com/2czbpk2.jpg

Frank_fjs
24th November 2010, 04:42 PM
Thanks!

I'm familiar with mode 2 from my plane flying days and it makes sense to me, so I'll stick with that.

Is there a site that explains all the different types of helis? E.g. different channels, coax, single rotor, fixed pitch etc?

Lastly, know of any good places to buy from online? The local hobby stores near me are a complete rip off.

wingtipvortex
24th November 2010, 04:50 PM
Is there a site that explains all the different types of helis? E.g. different channels, coax, single rotor, fixed pitch etc?

Lastly, know of any good places to buy from online? The local hobby stores near me are a complete rip off.
www.helifreak.com/ The Bible! Plenty of links to reputable sellers there as well.

Frank_fjs
24th November 2010, 05:12 PM
Cheers!

Helifreak.com has an excellent FAQ section that answered a lot of my questions and helped explain a lot of things.

Frank_fjs
2nd December 2010, 01:12 PM
The first of the two helicopters that I ordered came in today, the Phantom 6010.

Very impressive, first flight was a blast. It flies very well, very stable and a lot of control.

I'll post pics and more info once I've had more of a play...

Frank_fjs
2nd December 2010, 04:35 PM
Here's a picture of what you get for $35 landed with the Phantom 6010 helicopter.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/fjs/6010.jpg

Ordered off of eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310264624116&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT), from Hong Kong, took a week and two days to get here.

Plenty of spare parts to keep you going in the event of a nasty crash. Mind you, this particular model seems quite resilient to damage. As long as you cut the power before dropping (so that the blades aren't spinning when you hit something) you should be fine, especially on carpet.

Takes 20 minutes to charge via USB, you get between 5-8 minutes flight time, pending on how you fly. It's best to restrict flights to 5 minutes in order to maximise the lifetime of the battery, also a good idea to allow for a 5 minute cool down period before flying once charged and also after charging.

Remote takes 6 x AA batteries. You have 3 channels, so up/down, pivot left/right, forward and reverse. There's also a turbo button which gives you a nice speed boost when flying forwards, easy for it to get away from you though if you're in a confined space. Heaps of fun to build up speed and then bank into a corner. Remote also has trim adjustments if necessary.

It's really easy to fly and hovers + manoeuvres extremely well. Built in gyro keeps things very predictable and stable.

Here's a video of my first flight. Nothing fancy, just getting a feel for it here. Observant people will notice the helicopter going off screen and then coming back on screen in an impossible way. I'm not a magician, I simply edited the video as there was a lot of time where the heli was not in view of the camera.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=One2vSHGDY4

Great stocking filler guys, plenty of fun for yourself too. Highly recommended.

I also have a Syma S107 on the way too, which is very similar and a bit cheaper at $24 landed. Will let you know how this compares.

Viper
2nd December 2010, 06:42 PM
Nice. I've been looking at these the last week or so myself. Funny the one I was almost set on is the same black 6010. Still deciding though. Like the idea of a 4ch 2.4GHz but much more pricey. Maybe get an IR one to play with and decide if I want to go the extra expense, and of course get the young bloke one for X-Mas.

Frank_fjs
2nd December 2010, 08:28 PM
I would suggest getting one of the cheap toy ones first, to practice on.

As far as cheap coaxial (easy to control but limited in manoeuvrability) 3ch IR ones go, these two seem to be the best:

Syma S107 - $24 landed but not much in the way of spares. eBay link (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260691664668&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT)

Phantom 6010 - $35 landed. Lots of spares, love the pimped out look of black and gold, a little faster than the S107 and has a turbo button. eBay link (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310264624116&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT)

If you want a cheap 2.4GHz 4ch coaxial, this one (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190471413863&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) is apparently okay.

For a better 2.4GHz 4ch coaxial, this one (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270647843117&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1573wt_905) is a decent flyer for around $80 landed.

Lastly, when you get more serious and want something that's more than a toy, I've been told that the Blade MCX (coax) or Blade MSR (single rotor) are the way to go.

Viper
2nd December 2010, 08:39 PM
I just ordered a pair of the 6010s from the same seller but using one of his US auctions (saved about $3 each). Also ordered a couple of his spares kits mainly for the spare batteries but cannot hurt to have more parts. Seeing as one is for my son, I'm sure he'll break plenty of bits.


Am interested to see how they go with the gyro. Only helis I've had have been without one plus single rotor and I still managed some control so this should be way easier.

Frank_fjs
2nd December 2010, 08:51 PM
Nice one!

It does come with 1 spare battery but you can never have enough. I've been told by guys on some RC forums that if you limit flight time to 5 minutes (as to not completely drain the battery) and allow a 5 minute cool down after flying and before charging again, and additionally another 5 minutes once finished charging (to let the battery cool down) your battery will last a long time.

This is my first heli, and the gyro makes it dead set easy to fly. I'm flying it in my computer room now, which is a small 3rd bedroom, and it's super easy to control, even in confined spaces. It pretty much hovers without any input.

Just a heads up, when you get yours and go to charge it, here's how it works. An led will light up red on the USB cable when it's NOT charging. When you plug it in to your PC the led turns off to indicate that it is charging. Once it finishes charging the led turns on again. I mention this as the instructions state the opposite.

Edit: re crashing and your son, teach him to kill the throttle upon crashing and you'll be surprised at how much of a beating that these things can take.

@lien_Zed
3rd December 2010, 07:01 AM
im no expert on choppers, but my fatherinlaw is in to planes/choppers and i have a number of hc heli magazines in pdf format

http://www.rchelimag.com/

Viper
3rd December 2010, 10:35 PM
Maybe next after some practice:
2.4G Mini Walkera CB100 Brushless 4CH RC RTF Helicopter (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150525560903&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:AU:1123#ht_3626wt_1141)

Then one day:
Walkera Creata 400 2.4G 8CH RC Helicopter + 11 Bonus (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190473571742&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:AU:1123)

Frank_fjs
3rd December 2010, 10:45 PM
Mate, you're not dreaming big enough (love the sound of a jet engine):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPtB7n-S_8

By the way, Kmart appear to have (re-branded?) 6010's for $25. It's in their online catalogue (http://www.kmart.com.au/Catalogue/Catalogue.aspx?CatalogueID=348) (page 14).

Viper
3rd December 2010, 11:07 PM
Mate, you're not dreaming big enough (love the sound of a jet engine):

Nah, had enough of fuel powered RC. I'll stick to electric from now on. I would like a turbine though.....


By the way, Kmart appear to have (re-branded?) 6010's for $25. It's in their online catalogue (http://www.kmart.com.au/Catalogue/Catalogue.aspx?CatalogueID=348) (page 14).

Of course they do! :hissyfit:

Frank_fjs
3rd December 2010, 11:16 PM
Re Kmart, yeah I know. I only found this out today. Going to pick one up for myself and some as xmas presents, will let you know how it flies compared to my 6010. The person who pointed them out to me has one and said they fly beautifully.

wingtipvortex
4th December 2010, 01:49 AM
Lastly, when you get more serious and want something that's more than a toy, I've been told that the Blade MCX (coax) or Blade MSR (single rotor) are the way to go.
This heli is very much still a toy mate.

Don't get too used to coaxials if you are serious about moving to a collective pitch heli, its chalk and cheese mate. You would be better off using a sim( and i strongly recommend that ) when wanting to move to real heli flight:)

Frank_fjs
4th December 2010, 02:19 AM
I was thinking of getting a Revell Proto Max next. It's cheap, 4ch, and a single rotor. I know it's still a toy but regardless, it's a step up and will progressively teach me how to handle a more 'responsive' helicopter - without spending too much money.

I figure my next step will be learning a 4 channel heli, perhaps another coax and then a fixed pitch.

Once I learn how to handle a 4 channel single rotor fixed pitch, aggressively, I was then going to step up to the big boys.

Viper
4th December 2010, 09:44 AM
This heli is very much still a toy mate.

Don't get too used to coaxials if you are serious about moving to a collective pitch heli, its chalk and cheese mate. You would be better off using a sim( and i strongly recommend that ) when wanting to move to real heli flight:)

That's why I figured the little Walkera CB100 or something similar would be a suitable next step.

Frank_fjs
4th December 2010, 06:14 PM
Viper mate, picked up a couple from Kmart. All good, original 6010 in different packaging. Even came with 6 x AA batteries. Build quality is a lot higher and it flies better than the one I got from Hong Kong, but the Hong Kong one is still okay - just different I suppose.

Viper
4th December 2010, 06:36 PM
Did it come with any spares like the HK one?

Darksoul
4th December 2010, 06:44 PM
Frank, there was a guy in the parklands just off Greenhill Rd about 2 hrs ago, practicing with a chopper. Wasn't you by any chance?

Frank_fjs
4th December 2010, 07:10 PM
Only spare part it had was a rear tail rotor. Came with a charging USB cable as well but that's a standard item.

Re flying in the park, not me mate. The heli's I've got atm are toys and not suitable for outdoor flight.

Viper
4th December 2010, 07:54 PM
Only spare part it had was a rear tail rotor. Came with a charging USB cable as well but that's a standard item.


Well that goes a small way to justifying the additional cost of the HK item. May get a K-Mart one as well myself. Can never have too many toys, especially cheap ones! Thanks!

Frank_fjs
4th December 2010, 08:11 PM
I've no regrets RE the Honk Kong heli, those spare parts will pay for themselves soon enough. Just having the spare battery on its own is a huge plus.

Kmart heli is an English version which is good, so no Chinese text in the manual, on the box or on the controller. Build quality is higher too, obviously our standards are higher than HK. ;)

By the way, check this page out for a great range of cheap 6010 parts:

http://www.rccarmax.com/helicopters-parts-6010-phantom-heli-c-92_131.html

Viper
4th December 2010, 08:35 PM
Nice. I like the mouse pad/landing pad.

wingtipvortex
5th December 2010, 12:16 AM
Hey fellas, if you want a pretty darn good co axial, the Co Comanche is great. Its big( about 40cm ) and comes with all sorts of goodies. Its the the first large co axial i had and still get great pleasure from it to this day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY553CMMdIg
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Heli-Max-Commanche-CX-Co-Axial-RTF-R-C-Helicopter-/230552203989?pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item35adfb72d5

This is a smaller Walkera i have also, its 6 channel, collective pitch and full 3D
http://i51.tinypic.com/x0ux69.jpg
This baby is not for beginners though, as its a little precise to maneuver, but boy does it hum:)

Frank_fjs
5th December 2010, 12:41 AM
This is a smaller Walkera i have also, its 6 channel, collective pitch and full 3D

This baby is not for beginners though, as its a little precise to maneuver, but boy does it hum:)

Nice. Yeah, that's where I'm heading, but it's going to take quite a while to get there I reckon.

I was thinking this would be a good step up:

http://image.helipal.com/ne-sp-yellow-case-big.jpg

http://www.helipal.com/nine-eagles-solo-pro-yellow-2-4ghz-deluxe-edition.html

4 channel, single rotor, fixed pitch. Love the aluminium case too.

wingtipvortex
5th December 2010, 12:59 AM
That looks pretty cool Frank. If you get it, try removing the metal weights in the ends of the flybar:) Let me know how it reacts:D

Viper
5th December 2010, 09:15 AM
That looks pretty cool Frank. If you get it, try removing the metal weights in the ends of the flybar:) Let me know how it reacts:D

I/m guessing, not too well. I like the look of the little Walkeras. Seem to be good value for money.

Viper
10th December 2010, 02:36 PM
OK, both local K-Mart stores sold out, bugger. Anyway the two HK ones arrived today. A couple of questions:
1. How do you identify which channel the heli is? Just try all 3 or is there another way. The box shows 4 different colours so I assume it isn't that as there is only 3 frequencies.

Actually that's the only one. I re-read your other posts and the answers for my other questions are already there.

thanks

Frank_fjs
10th December 2010, 02:46 PM
My Kmart one had a little sticker on the underside of the heli which indicated the correct channel (C).

My Hong Kong heli didn't have a sticker however it will bind to any channel. I just leave it on A.

To bind, turn on the heli and quickly place it down on a flat surface (so that the gyro can initialise). There's a little LED on the circuit board that's visible from the rear of the heli (not the flashing disco light). It will flash and then turn solid once initialised. Turn on the remote and the LED on that should start flashing. Push the throttle (left stick) all the way up and all the way down - the LED on the remote should turn solid. Now repeat this process (push up and down) and you should be set.

If I were you, I would limit flights to around 5 minutes in order to preserve battery life. Also, never leave the heli uncharged, always store it with a full charge. Allowing 5 minutes after charging and before flight in addition to allowing 5 minutes after flight and before charging will help preserve the battery too.

My Hong Kong heli has a dead battery now which I'm pissed off about. I do have the spare battery that came with it, but no soldering iron. Assuming the spare battery isn't a dud, once I get it soldered in I should be alright. My Kmart heli is still flying strong with no signs of battery deterioration.

Viper
10th December 2010, 03:28 PM
Thanks.

Wonder how long the spares will last.

I ordered two of the spares kits which have a full set of main blades (2 x A and 2 x B), 5 tail rotors, a battery, two flybars and the clips for them. In the box was the additional spares which is basically the same but only one of each blade and 3 tail rotors but then in the box also was another half set of blades and another 2 tail rotors (standard spares I guess). So I basically have 4 full sets of main blades, 20 tail rotors, 8 flybars and 4 spare batteries.

I'm guessing a few weeks. ;)

Frank_fjs
10th December 2010, 04:38 PM
Actually, you'd be surprised at how tough they are. I've crashed into the roof, walls, dropped to the floor (on floorboards too) and still no damage! It certainly is nice to have the spares on hand, but as I've mentioned, I've had plenty of stacks and nothing has broken.

Only problem I've had is a dud battery, but they're cheap (only a few dollars) so once I get a new one soldered in, problem solved. I might actually look into soldering some wires with plugs to the board so that the next battery change will be easier. Not sure what the best type of plug would be though, they would need to be small and be able to be soldered/attached to a very thin wire. I just had I thought, I reckon those computer pin plugs (like the ones that go to the motherboard for LED's, reset switch etc) might be a good way to go. Don't know where you could buy them but I have some I could rip out of an old PC.

Let us know how your first flight goes. Make easy, gentle movements on the sticks and you will be fine. Trim it out when needed and they fly great for what they are.

Jaympee
10th December 2010, 09:52 PM
Check these out Frank. Just ordered the Falcon/Lanneret 4ch heli.
And these for spares.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=360285940223
Should suit your heli aswell. Also planning on soldering on plugs for easy changes.

Frank_fjs
10th December 2010, 10:14 PM
Thanks!

I do have a spare replacement battery, just have to pick up a soldering iron and see if I Can butcher it in (I can't solder).

Got a link to the heli you bought? I was thinking of going for the Nine Eagles Solo Pro/Revell Proto Max.

Jaympee
10th December 2010, 10:28 PM
They are 300mAh aswell.:)
Newer version than most are selling.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360284652012&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Should scare livin' shit out of cat!!
http://www.helipal.com/nine-eagles-solo-pro-blue-2-4ghz-edition.html

Frank_fjs
10th December 2010, 10:54 PM
Looks good, let us know how it flies.

Re the batteries, using 300mAh batteries in a heli that was designed for 130/150mAh isn't always a good idea. People tried it with the S107 and found that the extra weight and power burnt out the motors.

Jaympee
11th December 2010, 08:31 AM
I think this one comes with a 240mAh. I will have to investigate further.

Jaympee
11th December 2010, 03:18 PM
Some of these probably be the go.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300471592928&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#shId

Frank_fjs
11th December 2010, 03:29 PM
They look perfect!

RaMpAgE
12th December 2010, 09:36 AM
Here is my new one and also it's first crash :D

Nitro is the way to go - electrics are for home.


sorry can't get the photo's on for some reason - forget it.

Viper
12th December 2010, 09:50 AM
Some of these probably be the go.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300471592928&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#shId

Thanks, just ordered a couple myself.

Viper
14th December 2010, 12:07 PM
Bugger. Had troubles binding and when it eventually did the little bugger headed for the roof and I made the mistake of grabbing it on the way up. Broke the plastic mount for the rear left spar the supports the tail connection to the body. I think I'll just keep an eye out at K-Mart.

Gemini2544
14th December 2010, 02:10 PM
I love my toys too! :cool:

Viper
14th December 2010, 03:25 PM
The part I broke is this:
http://www.rccarmax.com/images/big/LISHI_6010_LANDING.jpg
The mount at the rear for the tail boom spar broke. Finally got it flying anyway, then snapped off the right hand skid so need a replacement base anway. Too many hard things in the office.

edit. No I wont. They want $27.50 for postage. I'll just get another one.

Viper
30th December 2010, 07:20 PM
After much searching and thought I've ended up buyng a Walkera CB100 FP micro heli combo from here:
Walkera CB100 Metal Twin Brushless RC Helicopter Combo (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160379895912&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_8519wt_944)

And got myself some spares (and sim cable) from here:
http://www.chinesejade.com/walkera.htm

Decided I don't want to go to a 450 size yet and as I certainly will down the track figured I can wait for a CP heli. I'll get comfortable with the FP single rotor for a while first.

Turns out the issues I had with the 6010 was the transmitter. I bound the heli to the one I bought for my son and it is fine. Shame I'd already busted it though because it means he didn't get one for Christmas (he got plenty of stuff anyway so I don't feel bad). I snapped the flybar on Christmas day though and of course all the spares are at work so I'll get it fixed tomorrow when I go in.

Just looking back through this thread and noticed I'd posted a link to the CB100 as a possible next heli, funny I'd forgotten. It's only an inch bigger than the 6010 so should be good indoors which is where I want to stay for now.

Frank_fjs
30th December 2010, 08:30 PM
This is weird, I'm looking at getting the same heli with my xmas money.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_GVgMaPisU

From what I've been told, it is a good helicopter and probably has the best hardware you will get for the money. They're a little heavier than other helicopters in the micro (palm sized) class and not as durable but they fly well and have higher quality electrical components.

The one I'm looking at getting is on sale atm ($120) but doesn't come with the case or extras, however they are available separately (around $30 for the case).

I'm still contemplating the Nine Eagles Solo Pro. I've given up on finding the Bravo SX.

I don't know if I should wait for the new Align Trex 100 though. Looks pretty good and is rumoured to be available for $100 upon release.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIasLtksFE8

Jaympee
30th December 2010, 09:09 PM
Both look pretty sweet!
When is the T-Rex supposed to be released?

Frank_fjs
30th December 2010, 09:46 PM
No one knows for sure when the Trex 100 will be released, there isn't too much info about it. It was rumoured for a xmas release but then that changed to March/April 2011. This is all rumour and speculation though.

Will just have to wait and see.

On a side note, my Kmart 6010 is still flying strong. Gave the other one to my Dad as a xmas present and he was blown away. His face lit up with excitement when he flew it for the first time, I haven't seen him that happy in a long time. Awesome stuff.

Viper
30th December 2010, 10:59 PM
This is weird, I'm looking at getting the same heli with my xmas money.


That's what I bought mine with!

If anyone is interested the place I got my parts from has the 4#6 Walkera on sale at the moment for US$108 (or $95 without the transmitter or charger). He only charges US$5 for international shipping too. With the dollar being good against the greenback it's a good time to buy.

Walkera 4#6 (http://www.chinesejade.com/walkera4_6_Heli.htm)

Frank_fjs
30th December 2010, 11:37 PM
Here are the places I'm considering purchasing the CB100 from:

MYRCMART (http://www.myrcmart.com/shopping_cart.php?currency=USD) - $115.64USD

eHIROBO (http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=8460{5}11{2}3{3}25{4} 166) - $119.99USD

Helipal (http://www.helipal.com/product_info.php?products_id=2347{20}76{5}28{26}54 {2}7{36}54{6}38) - $149USD

Shipping is about $30-$40.

MYRCMART is cheapest but has a bad reputation.
Helipal is dearest but has a good reputation and include an extra battery and pair of main blades.

Decisions, decisions.

Viper
31st December 2010, 05:36 AM
From the guy I bought mine from it'd be about the same:
eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Walkera-CB100-2-4G-Twin-Brushless-Helicopter-WK-2402-/110456355114?pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item19b7b6392a#ht_7623wt_942) - $152.94USD shipped.

Viper
31st December 2010, 10:05 AM
I'm still contemplating the Nine Eagles Solo Pro.

I like the look of it but a couple of things made me choose the CB100 over it.
1. The CB100 has an alloy head. Plastic may be better for a beginner due to crash resilience but I like the alloy.
2. The CB100 is dual brushless
3. The TX doesn't look like a toy.

Edit..fogot:
4. The 45 degree head from the CB100 and the 90 degree head from the 4#3B are interchangeable so at a later date I can put in a 4#3B head to make it more 'interesting' to fly.

Frank_fjs
31st December 2010, 02:59 PM
Viper mate, after much contemplation and procrastination I finally pulled the trigger on a CB100. :D

I figured it would be good for us to both have the same heli as we could compare notes and help each other out with problems/advice.

I didn't get the aluminium case, I may order that at a later stage. I got the basic RTF package (helicopter, transmitter, 1 x LiPo battery, 1 x wall charger, spare set of main and rotor blades, screwdriver) + an additional set of main and rotor blades and 2 extra batteries. Having it shipped via EMS so hopefully I get it late next week, early the week after that.

Please let me know when yours arrives, I'll do the same.

I'm with you re the Nine Eagles seeming more like a plastic toy. I still think it would be a good helicopter to bash around the house but the CB100 is miles ahead in terms of quality and craftsmanship. Having brushless motors, an alloy head and a proper electrical system (as opposed to an all-in-one board such as the Nine Eagles) seems like a big plus. The larger battery also means longer flight times, 7-10 minutes as opposed to 4-6 minutes with the Nine Eagles heli.

Viper
31st December 2010, 04:50 PM
Sweet.

You'll definitely get yours first. I ordered mine and as always had the shipping address as my work address BUT I am on 2 weeks leave as of today (DOH!). At least it won't turn up to the house and be left on the front step.

---------- Post added at 05:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:32 PM ----------

Oh, went into the bank with a bag of coins to cash in (do so every couple of months) and came out with enough to get one of those Chinese 3 channel RC helis that are a bit bigger, about this size:
3.5 RC (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2010-LATEST-SERIES-3-5CH-RC-METAL-FRAME-HELICOPTER-333-/160520777083?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_V ehicles&hash=item255fc8ad7b#ht_1418wt_1141)

More fun. Flew it in the office for a bit but a little large for inside me thinks.

knight76
6th January 2011, 07:59 PM
Not sure if this has been posted but check this out. Kebab sent it to me.

http://www.uberreview.com/2009/07/worlds-largest-rc-chopper-may-or-may-not-be-biggest-but-is-huge-nonetheless.htm

Or maybe


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi7G-VzU2r4

Frank_fjs
6th January 2011, 09:23 PM
Cool vid. :)

Although I'm not that into 3D flight. It just looks, well, wrong and unnatural. I'd rather watch a nice smooth and fast but well controlled flight than a helicopter spinning, flipping and bouncing all over the place for 5 minutes. It's just too much.

Like when listening to a song that has a guitar solo. Imagine if instead of going for 30 seconds it went for the entire song, the guitar solo would be a lot less impressive.

Hey Viper, re the new heli you purchased, the JXD 333, it does have a little brother called the JXD 335 which is palm sized in case you're after something easier to control in a confined space.

Are you planning on getting a lipo charger? I have 3 batteries and ordered some cables. Got a serial (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220643428201&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT) and a parallel (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280604476492&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT) cable on the way. I'm thinking I will charge them in series so the charger recognizes them as individual batteries, but I will experiment and see what ends up working better.

Hobby King have the Turnigy 6 for around $30 landed, might give that a go.

My CB100 is in Melbourne awaiting customs clearance. If I'm super lucky I'll see it tomorrow but I reckon it will most likely turn up on Monday.

Frank_fjs
10th January 2011, 01:19 PM
:realmad::realmad::realmad::realmad::realmad::real mad:

- Transferred to facility
- Attempted delivery - address details incorrect or insufficient
- Onboard with driver

What a waste of money EMS shipping was.

Viper
11th January 2011, 12:06 PM
Just got back from a week up north. I think my CB100 spares arrived while I was gone as there's a card from the post office. Will find out today. Still need to wait till next week to get my heli though.

The JDX335 is much the same as the 6010s we have. For smaller you need to go one of these:
Palm SZ (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280581388534&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_6313wt_907)

Haven't really thought about a charger just yet.

Frank_fjs
11th January 2011, 12:29 PM
Welcome back mate. My CB100 just arrived, charging now, hope it works!

Frank_fjs
11th January 2011, 01:45 PM
First flight, success. Everything appears to be working as it should.

You're in for a treat mate.

This is NOTHING like the toy 3 channels. It took me 5 minutes just to successfully get it off the ground. It is a stable heli, very fast, but requires constant stick movement. This isn't a bad thing at all, it's what I wanted, something that is a challenge and will teach me how to fly properly.

Get a training kit if you don't already have one on order.

Viper
11th January 2011, 01:55 PM
Sweet, training kit is part of my parts order. I have a set of these on order also:
http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!B+mB-7QB2k~$(KGrHqF,!h8EzLYyqcq7BN!ImgfFJ!~~0_12.JPG
Extreme Landing Skids (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290510475777&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1991wt_982)

My package was not the parts, but THE HELI ITSELF, YAY!!!!! Must have mixed up where I asked what to be shipped.

Problem is the foam that is supposed to be in the AL box wasn't and all the bits and pieces were just thrown in with a couple of chunks of foam to try and stabilize them. Consequently the radios antenna seems to have punctured a hole in the heli canopy. I've asked the seller for a replacement and the foam. This pics show the foam in the box so I want it! Charging now to ensure nothing else is broken but it all looks OK.

Frank_fjs
11th January 2011, 02:33 PM
What a jerk, what's the point of the case without the foam cut-out?

Hope heli is ok, let me know how your first flight goes.

Viper
11th January 2011, 02:38 PM
Everything works OK. Damn it's fast. Need some sim or coax time first me thinks. Thankfully the training kit and heavier skids are on the way, I'm gonna need them. Already punched a hole in the nose of the canopy and broken the leading part of the left skid. Needs a good trim too which will help, spend most of the time taking off compensating for it being out of trim. Anyway back to the 6010 for now.

Frank_fjs
11th January 2011, 02:49 PM
It's normal for the heli to spin and move to the right on take-off. It takes a while for the tail rotor to kick in and stabilise. Trick is to hold right a little on take-off and punch the throttle quick enough to get it at least 30-60cm off the ground.

Viper
11th January 2011, 03:07 PM
Yeah got that after a couple of tries (remembered from comments on HeliFreaks too) but it's pitching in flight which I'm sure is swashplate trim.

Frank_fjs
11th January 2011, 03:33 PM
Mine has a tendency to drift forwards. I've been told to pop off the turnbuckle on the front servo, unscrew the linkage a few times to make it longer and reattach. Rinse and repeat as needed.

Frank_fjs
11th January 2011, 04:30 PM
Quick video of my 2nd flight:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAMVqgCVXMA

wingtipvortex
11th January 2011, 05:53 PM
Top effort Frank! You will make the heli more stable with smooth throttle control, keeping it out of ground effect is the key.

Viper
11th January 2011, 07:11 PM
Quick video of my 2nd flight:


Did you cut out the crash landing?

Seller is sending a replacement canopy. Have asked about the foam but in all honesty I can cut my own. Would just rather not have to.

Frank_fjs
11th January 2011, 07:15 PM
Haha no crash landing! Just edited out the bits where the heli was out of view.

Frank_fjs
19th January 2011, 02:52 AM
How's the CB going Viper?

One quick question, there's two versions of the CB100 (old/new - v1/v2). Which version do you have? What's the model number of the TX and RX? I have the newer version, 2402 TX and 2436 TX. Older version is 2401 TX & 2406C RX.

I adjusted the linkages that go from the servos to the swash and have achieved a more stable hover, but it is very far from a hands free hover. I don't even think that's possible. The best that I can achieve is a slow circular drift. The tail holds steady though, albeit a little twitchy at times.

It's taking me a while to advance. I can hover around the room and move around with aileron and elevator, with the tail facing me, but that's about it. I'm currently trying to step into some rudder practice. I turn it one way at an angle of about 45 deg, try to keep it steady, then repeat in the other direction.

I'm finding this heli a little too aggressive and fast for a small indoor area. I'm waiting for a calm day so that I can take it outside. It's also such a nice heli and I'm too worried about crashing it.

I'm eagerly awaiting the Trex 100, should be out in feb. I'm even considering getting a Nine Eagles Bravo III, just so I can have something that I can thrash around with ease in a tight space, and not have to stress about crash damage.

Viper
19th January 2011, 05:58 AM
After crashing it on day one and basically destroying the canopy I decided to wait until I got my training kit and spares, which were waiting for me when I got back to work on Monday. The training kit snaps onto the original skids and as I snapped the leading part of one of them it only fixes to 3 sides. I'll tape it to the 4th. I got the training cable with my spares so I want to download FMS and have a play with that first also.

Mine is the same as yours. I believe version 1 was not brushless either.

I'm sttarting to think the same about indoor space. It's just so quick.

Frank_fjs
21st January 2011, 02:54 AM
Viper, just discovered a setting which should help you out heaps, it's been a godsend for me.

On your TX, scroll down to the AUX setting and turn it on. What this does is puts the heli into a dual rates/beginner's mode.

Specifically, what this means is you will need a lot more stick movement before the heli starts to move, and when it does it moves much more slowly and gradually.

If you decide to try this out, be careful on your first flight as you will be used to the more sensitive controls and may not give enough input.

Viper
21st January 2011, 07:23 AM
Cheers, I've been wanting to go through the TX manual to find the dual rate settings. I use them on my RC cars to slow down the steering.

Am having trouble getting the sim cable to work so may just get straight back into hands on.

Frank_fjs
21st January 2011, 01:39 PM
It's not actually mentioned in the manual, and the function only appears on later models. Not many people know about it, wish I had discovered it on day 1.

wingtipvortex
23rd January 2011, 04:20 PM
Well i flew my first inverted flight today at the field, with success:) Have been practicing on the sim for some time now and committed to doing it on the real thing today.

Heli was a Trex 700 nitro, and i pulled off a loop without negative throttle, 5 loops with negative throttle from a hover, 2 rolls with and without negative throttle and an inverted hover for about 5 seconds. All was done on a buddied set of controllers, one being my spankin new Spektrum DX7:)
It was a great day.

Viper
23rd January 2011, 04:39 PM
Nice. Something for us to aspire to. Right now, my little 6010 is giving me fun still and funnily the kids come and ask me to fly it, they like to watch it hover.

Jaympee
23rd January 2011, 05:33 PM
Still waiting for mine to show up.:(
Posted Dec 14.

Virgil Tracy
23rd January 2011, 06:31 PM
Does my AR Drone fall into this RC Chopper talk???

Viper
23rd January 2011, 06:45 PM
Of course. Mate at work has wanted one since they were first announced in the US. He told his twin 21 year olds that it was what they were getting him for Christmas. First Christmas present from them that hasn't sucked apparently. Brought it in on Friday, damn they are bigger than I thought but oh so cool. For the price though I don't need one right now.

Virgil Tracy
23rd January 2011, 07:17 PM
For the price though I don't need one right now.

If I didn't get one for Xmas I would be saying the same thing.

Frank_fjs
3rd March 2011, 03:10 AM
Here's a quick video report of my CB100 progress. Not my best flying as I was wearing a hat-cam (I literally taped a camera to the top of a hat) and this was quite off putting.

I've got the heli mechanically set up as best as I can get it. I'm happy enough with it for now to not touch it, all trims are at neutral positions on the TX and I can hands free hover, which you can see for a little bit at the start of the video before I intentionally veer to the right. It still wants to veer when pirouetting with rudder only, which is shown in the first bunch that I do, but if I apply a tiny bit of elevator it pirouettes much better, which is shown in the second bunch that I do.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpFoc1tvyhU

Basically practising left hand turns and nose in hovering. I don't have that much space, I fly much smoother outdoors, but I'm happy that I'm at least making progress. It wasn't that long ago where I could only hover and move around with ailerons tail in only.

Viper
3rd March 2011, 07:28 PM
Cool, mine is still sitting waiting for it's replacement canopy which I know will never come. I do have another I got from a different place so in reality it's waiting for me to remember to bring the new landing gear home from work. I keep forgetting.

Frank_fjs
18th April 2011, 01:42 AM
Picked up one of these recently, as a bday present to myself:

http://image.helipal.com/v120d01-side.jpg

Walkera V120D01. Flybarless with shaft driven tail rotor with pitch control. Pretty nice heli, love not having a tail motor or a flybar. Nice flyer, very fast and sensitive to input. Long flight times too, around 10 minutes. Too fast for me to handle much more than nudging it around inside, but it shines outdoors with lots of space.

CB100 is still going strong too, can whip it around in a small area pretty well now.

Next on my list may be a larger FP or a micro CP.

Viper
18th April 2011, 07:27 PM
Nice, I reckon it won't be long and you won't see heli's with flybars at all. You wouldn't believe it, my canopy came in the mail a few weeks back. No foam for the case, but at least he wasn't bullshitting me about the replacement.

Virgil Tracy
29th May 2011, 08:48 PM
My drone is collecting dust at the moment, I picked up one of these while in Singapore


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmg76dNpqkk&feature=fvsr


Not a helicopter but has no natural lift characteristics, no power and if falls out the sky. http://www.goflykite.com/

@lien_Zed
29th May 2011, 09:11 PM
Not a helicopter but has no natural lift characteristics, no power and if falls out the sky. http://www.goflykite.com/

wow...how cool is that!:cool:

Frank_fjs
29th May 2011, 10:15 PM
http://image.helipal.com/ne-sp-yellow-side.jpg

I just got a Nine Eagles Solo Pro for buzzing around the house. Great little heli, I got it as a freebie (present from hobby store for defending their honour) but even if I had paid for it it's worth every penny. Only around $60.

If you want some cheap fun, grab one of these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Blue-2010-2CH-2-Channel-RC-Control-Flyer-UFO-Style-Toy-/300559149113?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Powered_Toys&hash=item45fab8a839

Only $14 landed from eBay (Hong Kong).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsZWdrjHisY

wingtipvortex
29th June 2011, 10:33 PM
Picked up a sweet TREX 450 S last week, it was tweaked to perfection. Blades balanced perfectly ( in all modes, including stunt 1 and stunt 2 ), Futaba 401 gyro, Align LED night blades......the works:cool:
Braved the frosty morning and went for a fly at our local field. Jumped on my 550 Gaui Hurricane and gave it a hard run. Full high speed figure 8s ( 100+kph ) and some inverted negative throttle flips. No problems there:) Then jumped on the 450 and gave it a bit of a hover to see how it was going to react, as i like to check out the characteristics of a new heli as they are ALL different! It was slightly more sluggish on pitch and aileron control, but very responsive on anti torque and throttle control.

So i ran 2 lipos through it with no problems, just normal flight, no inverted or stunt 1. Everything great. Then i decided to flip it into stunt 1 ( as i always fly this setting on the 550 ) and see what it/i can do with it.

Here are the results of that last ill fated decision..............
http://i55.tinypic.com/21aeixv.jpg

Ill put this down to pilot error:( I underestimated the actual pull out power of a smaller sized heli in an inverted hover, and paid the price! It took about 4 milliseconds to realize it was going down, and 1.5 seconds to think about how much it was going to cost to repair before it hit the deck:lol

Frank and Viper. When you guys are ready to upgrade to a great indoor/outdoor full collective pitch heli that is well built and designed, go a TREX 450. They are the king.

Heres a pic of my beloved 550, which i will never put down:lol
http://i52.tinypic.com/10s4tab.jpg

Frank_fjs
29th June 2011, 11:22 PM
That's just hardcore to me mate, nowhere near ready for that type of machine!

Unfortunate about the crash, part of the fun of this hobby is in the tinkering and repairing though. :)

Viper
30th June 2011, 12:06 AM
.......part of the fun of this hobby is in the tinkering and repairing though. :)

For me that's what I hate about it. I'm interested in running the heli, plane or car. I'm happy to learn what each part is and it's purpose, but the continual need for adjustment annoys me to the point I loose interest and the desire just goes out the window. Probably why I prefer my $20 3 channel coaxial over the 4 channel single rotor. Just charge it an fly.

wingtipvortex
30th June 2011, 12:25 AM
For me that's what I hate about it. I'm interested in running the heli, plane or car. I'm happy to learn what each part is and it's purpose, but the continual need for adjustment annoys me to the point I loose interest and the desire just goes out the window. Probably why I prefer my $20 3 channel coaxial over the 4 channel single rotor. Just charge it an fly.
Aw man, i thought you were right into this hobby? Each to their own though:) The 3 channel will become boring after a while though, its pretty limited in what it can do. But if you like it and its fun, so be it. Fun is the main objective:cool:

Viper
30th June 2011, 09:31 AM
Aw man, i thought you were right into this hobby? Each to their own though:) The 3 channel will become boring after a while though, its pretty limited in what it can do. But if you like it and its fun, so be it. Fun is the main objective:cool:

I'm the same with most things. Initial builds are fine as I like to know how things work but if there's alot of maintenance involved, not interested. I don't work on my own cars because I get no enjoyment out of it. If I have time to spend with my car I want 100% of that time being behind the wheel because driving is what I get pleasure from in that respect. Probably will never own an EM pin for the same reason.

Hollo
30th June 2011, 10:00 AM
You guys would love the machines they use to dust the rice fields here. I often stop and watch them when the time comes - I watch from the relative safety of my car though... :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d6nQCgGTHw&feature=related

Viper
30th June 2011, 11:34 AM
That's very cool!

Savage
30th June 2011, 07:08 PM
I've had 3 Channel Heli's for a while. Syma seem to be just that better build IMO.

I've currently got two. Believe me anyone can fly these babies, built in electronic gyro. Flying these things is a peace of cake.
https://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pPK4o30_RwthIRtg7r2-ZIj-JxRAOwuTlWBjND4oxCVexi-smrtQh_6tlXyfZqqh7IQK1jweTTluGVpjPaBHUyg/Heli%20(2).JPG?psid=1

I then thought I'll go the 4 Channel path, now this is a steep learning curve. I've been spoilt with the controls on the 3 Channel, add an extra Channel and change it so the controls are differnt on the sticks makes it tough.

https://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pPK4o30_Rwtj7IxtKYipvHTMh9L3vKvPVHxSN9O_bMj9L6DS JLZ5Snwi1QOvlPTeGEQ9w1a17RUe8dTed-6jQXg/Heli%20(1).JPG?psid=1
I've got the Walkera V120D01 4ch FLYBARLESS Heli. Review of it here: http://heliorb.com/new-walkera-v120d01-4ch-flybarless-rc-helicopter-review

Frank_fjs
30th June 2011, 07:19 PM
I've found that the 3 channel toys just don't last, although I agree they are very fun and easy to fly.

I've also got a V120D01, can't wait to get her outside when the weather is better. Here's my just nudging it around inside:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngh25EB5cZg

I'm actually having a lot of fun with a Solo Pro. Damn cheap, takes a beating and it actually flies very well.

Savage
30th June 2011, 07:27 PM
Mate awesome.
No way can I even do that. I need lots of room outside..
Any pointers on getting it stable, I find just taking off it wants to either pitch to the right left etc until about 1 metre off the ground...

Frank_fjs
30th June 2011, 08:39 PM
Getting them setup properly is a bit tricky at first, but once you know what you're doing it's pretty easy.

Upon take-off, I find being confident with the throttle helps a lot. I like to get the blades spinning just enough for the heli to feel light, but still remaining on the ground. Then purposefully apply throttle quickly and smoothly until you're at least half a metre in the air. It's natural for the heli to want to push to the left, due to the thrust generated by the tail rotor, so I apply a little bit of right aileron at the same time as throttle.

If you try to take off too slowly, the heli will either try to tip over or be too affected by rotor wash. The flybarless system is slow to kick in and really doesn't do it's job properly until you are in the air with enough head speed.

You will need to play around with the settings on the RX as well. Every heli will be different but as a rough starting point, try 12 o-clock for the tail gyro, 2 o-clock for the elevator and aileron gyro and 1 o-clock for the servo extent. Basically you want the heli to be stable but not wobbling when in the air (too much gyro gain will cause this). It's just a matter of trial and error, and making small adjustments.

The heli should hover reasonably well but don't expect a perfect hands-free hover. If you have noticeable drift in a particular direction, it's best to sort it out via the linkages that run from the swashplate balls to the servos. Make adjustments one full turn at a time (important as the connectors are designed to only go on one way) and adjust one thing at a time. So, concentrate on eliminating forwards/backwards movement then work on lateral movement. Get it as best as you can mechanically and then use trims for any fine adjustments.

wingtipvortex
30th June 2011, 09:34 PM
Getting them setup properly is a bit tricky at first, but once you know what you're doing it's pretty easy.

Upon take-off, I find being confident with the throttle helps a lot. I like to get the blades spinning just enough for the heli to feel light, but still remaining on the ground. Then purposefully apply throttle quickly and smoothly until you're at least half a metre in the air. It's natural for the heli to want to push to the left, due to the thrust generated by the tail rotor, so I apply a little bit of right aileron at the same time as throttle.

If you try to take off too slowly, the heli will either try to tip over or be too affected by rotor wash. The flybarless system is slow to kick in and really doesn't do it's job properly until you are in the air with enough head speed.

You will need to play around with the settings on the RX as well. Every heli will be different but as a rough starting point, try 12 o-clock for the tail gyro, 2 o-clock for the elevator and aileron gyro and 1 o-clock for the servo extent. Basically you want the heli to be stable but not wobbling when in the air (too much gyro gain will cause this). It's just a matter of trial and error, and making small adjustments.

The heli should hover reasonably well but don't expect a perfect hands-free hover. If you have noticeable drift in a particular direction, it's best to sort it out via the linkages that run from the swashplate balls to the servos. Make adjustments one full turn at a time (important as the connectors are designed to only go on one way) and adjust one thing at a time. So, concentrate on eliminating forwards/backwards movement then work on lateral movement. Get it as best as you can mechanically and then use trims for any fine adjustments.
What frank said is spot on. What you are experiencing on low level hover is whats called ground effect. Even with my big helis, i push them fairly quickly to about a metre off the ground. The only reason a real heli( full size ) can hover at inches above the ground comes down to weight...... and pilot skill of course. Pretty hard to do with something that only weighs a couple of kilos or less.

Like Frank said, get your swash plate/arms/servo adjustments the best you can, then trim on the TX.

Nice flying by the way Frank:cool:

Savage
30th June 2011, 10:03 PM
Cheers guys.
May just try it out this week end

@lien_Zed
30th June 2011, 10:45 PM
do you guys have a video system of some description mounted to the heli at all? i have seen a few different sytems around.one is a straight camera oyu bolt on and fly round and watch the results once you have landed, theres another one that you can have a small lcd screen connect up at the ground off a car battery and it transmits the video/audio back to you so you can see what the hack is going on

apparently the 900 Mhz systems are not legal in all countries, i dunno about australia though. apparently airplanes like qantas and the likes transmit data on 900 Mhz band and it can interfere with them.

i wouldnt mind a half decent small camera to mount to my erevo and take it for a blast:cool:

Frank_fjs
30th June 2011, 11:25 PM
Quickest, cheapest and easiest way to spy on your neighbours is with one of these: http://www.helipal.com/swift-c7-micro-spying-helicopter-blue.html

It's a 3 channel self stabilising coaxial, or in other words, a child with no prior experience could fly it. Has a cheap camera built into it, records video to an SD card which you can later watch on your PC.

RaMpAgE
30th June 2011, 11:43 PM
Go Nitro heli's
2564625645

Savage
1st July 2011, 09:09 AM
Problem with most the 3-Channels is that they use Infrared.

Meaning, not a great distance you can travel before lossing recption
Prone to interference
Outdoors, sunlight can and does (from experience) affect reception.
Slight wind affects them too, any spying would have to be indoors

Viper
1st July 2011, 07:47 PM
Problem with most the 3-Channels is that they use Infrared.

Meaning, not a great distance you can travel before lossing recption
Prone to interference
Outdoors, sunlight can and does (from experience) affect reception.
Slight wind affects them too, any spying would have to be indoors

Only the baby 3Ch ones use IR. The bigger ones are RC (they go up to 125cm) but they call them 3.5ch.

Arcade King
9th October 2011, 07:54 AM
Bump
Was in Jaycar yesterday looking for a universal adapter for my Mega CD when I saw their range of RC helicopters. Thought meh buy a cheapy and see how I like it.
Ended up getting the Alloy Shark S006. I've managed to crash it 50 times and its still in one piece. :lol Not very good for outdoors unless there's zero wind but still a lot of fun for $50

Now I've got the bug and read this thread will definitely be upgrading in the near future.

Viper
9th October 2011, 08:37 AM
It's one of those hobbies where there is always something harder and more challenging so when you get bored with one you can upgrade to the next challenge. That being said I've never gotten bored with my little 3CH IR coaxial. That doesn't mean I haven't gone out and bought more though....

Savage
9th October 2011, 08:37 AM
Three channel with coax?...

I got two 3 channel with coax, and got the bug went for the 4+ channels and sucked at it compare. I think you learn bad habits with these, needless to say I've been put off at the moment.

Oh if it's infra-red, sun light interferes with this...

Viper
9th October 2011, 08:44 AM
Three channel with coax?...

I got two 3 channel with coax, and got the bug went for the 4+ channels and sucked at it compare. I think you learn bad habits with these, needless to say I've been put off at the moment.

Oh if it's infra-red, sun light interferes with this...

Nah, the S006 is one of the slightly bigger RC ones.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cneHIenawxo&NR=1

Arcade King
9th October 2011, 08:49 AM
HAHA thats the one. Slow as shit! and if theres any breeze she won't go forward lol.
Was thinking of going back and getting the 4 Channel gt3340 and giving this one to the kids to wreck.

Viper
9th October 2011, 09:21 AM
HAHA thats the one. Slow as shit! and if theres any breeze she won't go forward lol.
Was thinking of going back and getting the 4 Channel gt3340 and giving this one to the kids to wreck.

Wait till you have your hear around the controls first. Better to wreck a cheapish 3 ch than a more expensive 4ch.

GORGAR 1
13th October 2011, 09:00 PM
I put mine in the cupboard 12 months ago after cracking the shits with it smashed it 20 times but I really want to learn and nOw the battery won't charge :( so will have another go Tommorrow

Peter

@lien_Zed
14th October 2011, 07:08 AM
check Ali out and some of the stuff he does with his choppers


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_qHLV8aAt4&feature=uploademail

wingtipvortex
14th October 2011, 10:11 PM
My advice for plane/heli pilots that want to learn the cheap way is this> http://www.phoenix-simv3.com/default.asp It will save you mega dollars, and its fun:)
I gave Dkong a go on it the other week and it blew him away! Within an hour or so he was flying and ( more importantly )understanding the flight physics of rc models. I personally think its essential to get as much sim time as possible. I went from a HB King 2 heli( small, but twitchy ) to a 550 size after around 20 hours of sim time.

GORGAR 1
18th October 2011, 11:01 AM
This is the helicopter thats cause me SO much grief...

Peter2928429285

wingtipvortex
18th October 2011, 12:48 PM
This is the helicopter thats cause me SO much grief...

Peter2928429285
I have felt your pain with that model:(

This co axial is a much better model that can actual hold a stable hover and flight http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-ESKY-LAMA-V4-4CH-CO-COMANCHE-RC-HELICOPTER-/180712165077?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_V ehicles&hash=item2a1348ced5
Might be worth a look if want a semi decent indoor flier.

Arcade King
25th October 2011, 06:05 PM
My advice for plane/heli pilots that want to learn the cheap way is this> http://www.phoenix-simv3.com/default.asp It will save you mega dollars, and its fun:)
I gave Dkong a go on it the other week and it blew him away! Within an hour or so he was flying and ( more importantly )understanding the flight physics of rc models. I personally think its essential to get as much sim time as possible. I went from a HB King 2 heli( small, but twitchy ) to a 550 size after around 20 hours of sim time.

Good advice mate I'm going to do just that.
Just bought the USB cable for the V120D01 I got off Savage.
Been trying to get my head around this thing for a couple of weeks now and have already spent over $100 in parts. After a stack of reading I spent hours on Saturday fine tuning it so it was actually hover. Thing would just keep taking off forward or to one side and was very frustrating. After a lot of screwing around and adjusting I finally got it hovering nicely and had a lot of fun learning to fly it with plenty of crashes mostly due to to wind gusts the final of which smashed the Heli into the fence and smashed the canopy to bits and stripped the tail rotor gear (again). I really need to look into the "clutch" mod I've read about.
Still a long way to go but determined to nail it so one day soon I can buy one of these.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ5i0Cxpml8

Frank_fjs
25th October 2011, 06:16 PM
I had the V120 also AK, clutch mod is a must. There's a few approaches you can take, easiest way is to round of the D shaped hole in the front main tail gear. Another option is to use fuel line and insert the gear into one end and slip the other end over the shaft.

My V120 was also a pain at times, the flybarless system seemed to be possessed, but once you have it dialed in it flies very well.

Arcade King
25th October 2011, 06:36 PM
Are you still flying it mate?

wingtipvortex
25th October 2011, 07:28 PM
Hey Trav, see the "twitch" and head speed change at 37 secs? Thats when the pilot switched it into stunt mode 1. That means he can now perform negative pitch 3d maneuvers. Other than that, being in stunt1 means tones more control in windy situations. This is the mode you really want to learn to fly in:)

@lien_Zed
25th October 2011, 08:36 PM
AK that Airwolf heli is a nice bit of kit. the retractable landing gear just tops it off

Arcade King
25th October 2011, 08:47 PM
The Bell 222 is a sexy beast....must have.

Frank_fjs
25th October 2011, 10:38 PM
I sold the V120 mate, I'm not flying anything atm. Will be picking something up around xmas time though, looking at one of the micro CP's like the Genius or 100D.

Arcade King
29th October 2011, 09:35 AM
Last few days I've had some good flying time out of the V120 and I'm getting much better at flying it.
It was well worth spending all those hours learning how to fine tune it and getting it hovering nicely. I'm still having the problem where one gust of wind it I lose control and usually ends up getting smashed. Just smashed my second Canopy and Skids this morning :realmad: Thing took a nose dive into the concrete :b

Frank_fjs
29th October 2011, 11:04 AM
It's not really built for wind, you need a CP to be able to combat the wind.

Problem with the V120 is, being FP, when the wind carries you away you tend to drop the throttle which means less head speed which means less control. A CP can maintain head speed and lower the pitch of the blades in order to combat the wind.

Arcade King
16th November 2011, 05:05 PM
just arrived today :D
30410
30411
30412
30413

Time to do a but load of reading and will take it out for a test flight tomorrow.

Frank_fjs
16th November 2011, 05:18 PM
That looks extremely nice.

Walkera have really upped their game recently, and provide the best hardware and bang for buck. I don't think much of E-Flite and their ridiculous pricing. They always seem to use the cheapest materials possible (plastic as opposed to aluminium or carbon fibre, brushed motors, all-in-one electronics with crap servos, cheap RTF TX's etc) and yet they charge much more for their helis and spare parts.

Unfortunately Walkera haven't always been the best and their reputation has suffered because of it.

Looks like you are going to have fun with that one AK, just make sure you spend the time setting it up properly, CP's are a lot more involved.

wingtipvortex
16th November 2011, 07:22 PM
CP's are a lot more involved.
:cool:
Trav, i highly recommend for new to CP heli fliers trainers, it reduces the highly probable chance of blade or tail strike( which can destroy servos and many other essential bits )by 80%
http://i39.tinypic.com/2yxmdxt.jpg

As frank said, its a whole new kettle of fish flying these. Do you have a blade balancing tool? You will need one. Also as i said before, get on a sim for a while first to develop some stick co ordination.
Im only saying this as id hate to see you down your new heli straight away.
If you do fly tomorrow, i wish you the best of luck mate....and have fun:cool:

Arcade King
18th November 2011, 02:24 PM
too late :b stripped the gear already

Frank_fjs
18th November 2011, 02:27 PM
They usually include a few spare gears in the kit, I hope so anyhow.

Arcade King
18th November 2011, 05:31 PM
Not this time.
I screwed it up within half an hour. Just took it to the front yard to do a bit of hovering and get a feel for it. Thing winds up like a jet engine and is nothing what I expected.
Seems to be a common trend with so called "RTF" Walkera's that arent "RTF" Spent the first 15 mins adjusting it so it would hover nicely. I stripped the gear when I landed it on the lawn and the tail rotor hit the grass first, that's all it took to strip half the teeth off the main tail rotor gear and a few teeth on the main gear itself.

Just had a GREAT time playing around with the V120D01 though. Really getting the hang of flying it even with some wind, I find half the fun is fighting the wind and keeping it stable. I got a bit carried away and had it up about 200 meters lol The wind was too stong up there and it started getting carried away so I had to drop it on the road..and you can guess what happened.
Never ending cycle of fixing but I'm having fun. All could be avoided if I just took it down to the local park where I have heaps of room but I just can't help myself.

Next one I get will be belt driven.

Frank_fjs
18th November 2011, 05:38 PM
Be careful which belt model you chose, some of them are really bad in that they don't have adequate tail holding.

In my experience, no heli, especially CP, is 'ready to fly'. RTF really means the package contains all required components, nothing more. I never trust them from the factory, I tend to check all screws etc before my maiden flight.

The Walkera shaft driven models do suffer from stripped gears way too easily, it's a joke, they really need to implement a clutch mechanism.

@lien_Zed
18th November 2011, 05:53 PM
In my experience, no heli, especially CP, is 'ready to fly'. RTF really means the package contains all required components, nothing more. I never trust them from the factory, I tend to check all screws etc before my maiden flight.

same goes for r/c cars too;)

Arcade King
18th November 2011, 06:07 PM
:cool:
Trav, i highly recommend for new to CP heli fliers trainers, it reduces the highly probable chance of blade or tail strike( which can destroy servos and many other essential bits )by 80%
http://i39.tinypic.com/2yxmdxt.jpg

As frank said, its a whole new kettle of fish flying these. Do you have a blade balancing tool? You will need one. Also as i said before, get on a sim for a while first to develop some stick co ordination.
Im only saying this as id hate to see you down your new heli straight away.
If you do fly tomorrow, i wish you the best of luck mate....and have fun:cool:

Thanks for the tips mate. I did buy a dongle for the TX but it doesn't work on Windows 7 :b
Bought a Tookbox from Helipal.com which had some nice stuff in it including a pitch gauge but will grab a balancing tool next time i order something.

Frank_fjs
18th November 2011, 06:23 PM
MyRcMart and Miracle-Mart are generally a lot cheaper than HeliPal. HeliPal has a nice site though, I tend to use them for window shopping as they have great pictures and details about the product, I then go buy from my helis from one of the other 2 sites.

Not really into helis much these days though, got fed up of spending money on them and waiting for the right conditions to fly.

Arcade King
18th November 2011, 06:27 PM
lol how true is that. I've spent money on them every week since I got into it but I'm sure I'll get jaded soon enough.
They parts are cheap but its amazing how they all add up.

Frank_fjs
18th November 2011, 06:32 PM
I was going to move into RC cars (used to be into them many years ago) but it didn't look to be a much cheaper option. Always having to replace batteries and motors gets tiring quite quickly. You'd think for the money they charge they could create durable components.

wingtipvortex
19th November 2011, 01:38 AM
Not this time.
I screwed it up within half an hour. Just took it to the front yard to do a bit of hovering and get a feel for it. Thing winds up like a jet engine and is nothing what I expected.
Seems to be a common trend with so called "RTF" Walkera's that arent "RTF" Spent the first 15 mins adjusting it so it would hover nicely. I stripped the gear when I landed it on the lawn and the tail rotor hit the grass first, that's all it took to strip half the teeth off the main tail rotor gear and a few teeth on the main gear itself.


Fark man, you lasted 25 mins longer than i expected:lol Well done! You gotta get the heli in trim ( as much as possible ) before you even attempt to hover it. Get the blades balanced in stunt 1 mode at as close to 0 pitch as you can, then adjust your rates in the TX, then go into sub trims and get it as close to perfect as you can.
Mine is set up so precisely that i have VERY minor to no adjustment of trims on the TX at all. If there is wind, i deal with it real time with the sticks. If i fly it indoors, i can take my hand off the sticks and it will be 99% stable in a hover.

Dont give up though, as it is very satisfying pulling smooth figure 8s at 100 feet doing 120ks an hour:)

@lien_Zed
19th November 2011, 06:30 AM
I was going to move into RC cars (used to be into them many years ago) but it didn't look to be a much cheaper option. Always having to replace batteries and motors gets tiring quite quickly. You'd think for the money they charge they could create durable components.

what rc cars were you looking at the needed batteries and motors replaced regularly?
my erevo 1:10 scaled gets used regularly and used same batteries for months.i burnt the twin stock brushed motors out reasonably quickly, mainly cos i was running 4s lipo thru them and motors said "ta-ta" in grand style. however, i knew they would and i couldlnt wait so i could drop in my 14.4v dewalt motor and its been going for for months.i had the replace the brushes the other day cos i wore them out.

http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/BP396505-21.html

the above motor runs fine off the stock traxxas evx-2 esc in the erevo

Arcade King
19th November 2011, 11:11 AM
Fark man, you lasted 25 mins longer than i expected:lol Well done! You gotta get the heli in trim ( as much as possible ) before you even attempt to hover it. Get the blades balanced in stunt 1 mode at as close to 0 pitch as you can, then adjust your rates in the TX, then go into sub trims and get it as close to perfect as you can.
Mine is set up so precisely that i have VERY minor to no adjustment of trims on the TX at all. If there is wind, i deal with it real time with the sticks. If i fly it indoors, i can take my hand off the sticks and it will be 99% stable in a hover.

Dont give up though, as it is very satisfying pulling smooth figure 8s at 100 feet doing 120ks an hour:)

What are you flying though mate? Flybar or Flybarless helis? Both of mine are flybarless and I find I have to fiddle the 3 axis gyro settings a bit to get it just right for me.
Be interested to know how you set up without hovering. I've been putting the heli down on our tramp and giving it slight throttle to see which way it wants to travel and fine tuning from there.

wingtipvortex
22nd November 2011, 08:29 PM
Hey Trav, my heli's both have flybars, so the set up is different. But the fundamentals are the same for the first build( i just don't have the 3G set up ) The best way to start is to get the servo horns level first, this is extremely important. Once you are satisfied that they are dead level, connect the linkage rods to the swash plate arms and feathering shaft. Once all is connected, your ready to start arm adjustments.

I then power up the servos and set my throttle to 50% stunt 1 ( all adjustment should be done in stunt 1 mode for a close to 0 pitch blade ) Then have a good look at the swash plate and see how level it is. The plate should also be in the center of the shaft. More than likely it wont be. What you are trying to achieve is a DEAD level plate with energized servos. Ok, so the servo arms are level, now its time to work on the linkages. Adjust them by doing 1/4 rotations at a time. This can be tricky some times as you will more than likely go over. Write down which link to which servo, and how many times/how far you have rotated them.

Once you have this done and you are as happy as you can be with all adjustments being level, balance your blades as described above in stunt1 at 50% throttle and find as close to 0 pitch as possible. then when you have done this, do another visual inspection of the horns, swash plate and linkages. If its not absolutely level, re adjust the linkages until its as close as it can be to the naked eye. When this is done properly, all horns and arms should be dead level in this setting.

Then go into your sub trim menu and get it as precise as you can with visual. Look at your blades and everything else mentioned and use a ruler or something with a dead flat surface. Hopefully you wont need to sub trim too much if you have set everything else up correctly. But this is what subs are for, very minor tweaking.

My motto is this, get it right at the bottom level first with servo, link, swash and subs, and you should have a heli that will hover with first lift off. If it doesn't, get back into the sub menu and make MINOR adjustments. You should never need to trim a heli from the switch of the TX, as the adjustments are too large. Especially if you are switching from normal to stunt for 3D flight, as the setting in stunt will be totally different than normal mode, and then you will need to re adjust again for each mode, which is pointless.

This is what i do for flybar equipped helis, and Ive done it once for each. 60 flights later and Ive never hit the main trim whatsoever. Yours being flybarless has other settings involved of course which im not familiar with, so i cant comment on that. Id say have a gork on Helifreak forum for settings regarding that.

Happy flying and get on the sim!:)

Manta
27th November 2011, 01:50 PM
Just a pic of my fleet

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d176/WTE_Manta/3aef048f.jpg

Viper
2nd December 2011, 11:59 AM
Bugger.

I've had one of those 3CH coaxials (the bigger RC ones) sitting under my desk at work for a year. I finally remembered to bring it home last week. I've got today off because I had trouble seeing due to an eye infection so I figured I'd take it out on the balcony to give it a spin.

Lets just say hindsight is a wonderful thing. Why I thought flying a heli for the first time outside when I am having issues seeing in direct sunlight was a good idea I cannot say. The result was I didn't notice the slight breeze and not being used to the throttle along with the fact I couldn't see it properly it went up and away. By the time I realised where it was going (over the neighbours fence) it was 20ft above the roof and no amount of forward pitch was bringing it back in a hurry so I decided to bring it down. Remember I mentioned not being used to the throttle just yet, well next thing I see the rotors have stopped and it fell out of the sky, bang on the colorbond roof then bang 2.5 storeys onto the sandstone below. Only managed to break one blade but having no spares it's back on the shelf till new blades arrive.

Bugger!

Frank_fjs
2nd December 2011, 12:04 PM
Bugger. :)

I had a cheap 4ch FP, the 9958, that I used to fly very fast in the backyard. It ended up on the roof but I was lucky enough to be able to blip the throttle, which put it back on its legs, and take off bringing it safely down. It was a $30 helicopter that looked and behaved very much like an MSR.

The Pinny Parlour
21st December 2011, 07:36 AM
Who gives a Flying F*ck

http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/b527/?pfm=Search&t=flying ****

http://i.imgur.com/Gf0ND.jpg

GORGAR 1
26th December 2011, 11:07 AM
At last I have a helicopter I can fly :) I bought the small cheapy from k-mart and it's easy to fly as my other larger one was impossible so after abit more practice I'll fly inside then I'll update to one of the bigger ones with a camera I think about $150 from the dudes in the shopping centres

Peter

Savage
29th December 2011, 01:58 PM
This looks like a cool heli to practice with.
http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/blade-mcp.html

Blade mCP X/2

Manta
29th December 2011, 02:10 PM
I ended up getting a few helis for Christmas which is cool. Only problem is I now have six controllers. Can u get a controller that will control all of them 2.4 ghz besides one?

Arcade King
29th December 2011, 02:22 PM
This looks like a cool heli to practice with.
http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/blade-mcp.html

Blade mCP X/2

I've read a lot of good things about the MCPX, I probably should have got one instead of buying yet another Walkera (V120d02s) I just finished removing the metal tail shaft out and putting a carbon one in which is used in the D01. Walkera were on the right path with the D02S however putting the metal shaft in just created more problems. Instead of chewing gear teeth when crashing it always rounds the D out of the read gear even if you just land in short grass and don't even crash! I never have gear stripping problems with the D01 because I've learnt to anticipate a crash and throttle back. I'm hoping the carbon shaft will give it some "flex".


I ended up getting a few helis for Christmas which is cool. Only problem is I now have six controllers. Can u get a controller that will control all of them 2.4 ghz besides one?
What brand are they? depends on the receiver.

GORGAR 1
3rd January 2012, 07:34 AM
Hi,

After getting a K-mart helicopter for Xmas and practicing a fair bit I'm after a big one now does this one look like a good buy? and free postage...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250943655083#ht_7697wt_1002

Thx Peter


P:S-my k-mart one had extra rotors and tail blade but NO USB charger? I just read that someone got a USB charger

Arcade King
3rd January 2012, 07:52 AM
4 Channel Coaxial is the next progression (although I skipped this step and got a 4 channel Fixed pitch flybarless). No matter what you get make sure there are parts available.
I think Wingtip advised it a few times and I should of listened to him which is simulator software. I ended up buying THIS (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-12in1-Flight-Simulator-Cable-USB-Dongle-RC-Helicopter-Airplane-VRC-Car-/260902365241?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_V ehicles&hash=item3cbefe2839), It comes with a shit load of sim software, you just have to make sure the remote you have is supported.

From what of read the Esky Lama is a great 4 Channel coax with plenty of spares available.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-ESKY-LAMA-V4-2-4Ghz-4CH-COAXIAL-RC-HELICOPTER-/140489921843?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_V ehicles&hash=item20b5da1533
Looks like the remote on this has the simulator port AND included the USB cable and software :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO5TQmPzxs&feature=player_embedded

Frank_fjs
3rd January 2012, 08:48 AM
I'd advise against a large 4 channel coaxial. They're too big to fly indoors and you can't fly them outdoors when there's an ounce of wind. Plus, they really don't corner well.

Generally, buying helis from eBay isn't a good idea either. The sellers offer no after sales support and are often selling refurbished units or factory seconds. Check the thread around these parts somewhere that lists a bunch of great online hobby stores.

Re the K-Mart helis, the latest ones don't include a USB charger, though you can buy one separately if you need to.

Nowadays, I'd recommend skipping the coaxials and going for a self stabilising fixed pitch heli, like the MSR, Solo Pro, Solo Pro 328 etc.

GORGAR 1
3rd January 2012, 09:25 AM
Thanks guys my son bought a small heli from one of those shopping centre sellers for $50 and it has the side fans which is cool see picture32046 and it also included spares and a USB charger which I use on my k-mart heli and a quick video of it in action.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx61-zhJarg

Peter

Fish Tales
19th March 2012, 02:51 PM
this is the one I scored at the garage sale on the weekend for 8 bucks http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=3DV6CYO_cYA I gave it to my 8yrold, but find myself flying it just as much as him. Pretty cool toy, wouldnt mind a bigger one (we all would I guess) :cool:

toads
13th May 2012, 09:27 AM
I've been playn with these things for a little while now. Started with a twister micro co axial then moved to a twister micro sport fixed pitch. Now i'm playing with a solo pro 328. Great fun it's a little flighty but has nice control in slight wind.
Would like something just a bit bigger but can't find much around of good quality. They all seem to be 6ch 3d choppers when you want to move up in size. I'm not really interested in 3d stuff. Should i move up to a c/pitch hmmm not sure i need to.
What you think guy's ?
p.s. Had a dog fight with 2 magpies a few weeks ago, that was fun.

Mark.

wingtipvortex
13th May 2012, 11:36 AM
I've been playn with these things for a little while now. Started with a twister micro co axial then moved to a twister micro sport fixed pitch. Now i'm playing with a solo pro 328. Great fun it's a little flighty but has nice control in slight wind.
Would like something just a bit bigger but can't find much around of good quality. They all seem to be 6ch 3d choppers when you want to move up in size. I'm not really interested in 3d stuff. Should i move up to a c/pitch hmmm not sure i need to.
What you think guy's ?
p.s. Had a dog fight with 2 magpies a few weeks ago, that was fun.

Mark.
If a heli is 3d capable, it doesn't necessarily mean you have to fly 3d. Normal flight can be improved a truckload in stunt mode, as it means higher head speed and way more control in windy conditions. When you want the heli down, it can come down as fast as it went up:lol

All depends on how much you want to invest as well, moving up to a decent CP heli and transmitter is a substantial jump in dollars
This is probably one of the best micro full 3d helis going at the moment......But you would need to purchase a decent TX at $200+ to use it

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/blade-mcp-x-bnf-BLH3580

wingtipvortex
19th August 2012, 10:16 AM
2 and a half grand for a new Goblin 700 electric heli, and this is what happens when you don't set up the flybarless system correctly. He wasn't happy on this maiden flight:o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LHV_KlG8So&feature=plcp

Off to the field now to see the rebuilt one take flight..........possibly:lol

Arcade King
19th August 2012, 10:38 AM
oooo that aint funny.

Viper
19th August 2012, 10:53 AM
oooo, yes it is!

toads
19th August 2012, 11:21 AM
Id be shattered. Cp,s are too scarey for me

Arcade King
19th August 2012, 12:31 PM
Actually in my nooblah experience a CP set up right can be as docile as any fixed pitch Heli...setting them up is the hard part.

wingtipvortex
9th December 2012, 09:47 PM
Happy to say that the Gaui 550 is now flybarless:cool: First test flight was wrong, and it went in to the deck. simple error of aileron set in reverse........should have picked that up in testing. After a main shaft and FB blades refit, she flew like a dream in super gusty winds today. Im happy with that.

Womble
30th December 2012, 08:12 PM
Still trying to learn to fly these damn things, wrecked my old Honeybee again today. So have bought a single rotor 4 channel micro so I can get the hang of the basics indoors. The Honeybee was too large to start to learn with in the garage and outside is it ever not windy :(

Have been having a blast with the co-axial Chinook I got for xmas, to the extent of messing up the balance between the rotors so at full reverse it hovers level , but giving me twice as much thrust going forwards. That thing absolutely screams round the house now but isn't a real heli.

RIP Honeybee

Frank_fjs
30th December 2012, 08:17 PM
I haven't flown in a while, sold all my old helis off. Which single rotor did you get Womble? Of all the ones I ever owned the Nine Eagles Solo Pro (think it's been superseded with a newer model now) was my favourite.

wingtipvortex
30th December 2012, 09:16 PM
Was it the Honeybee King 2, or original Honeybee?
Indoor helis are fun as! Its where we all started and progressed from. When I go to Dkongs, I love flying his co-axial.

I have now completely sorted my flybarless issues now. Had a ton of headaches trying to level the swash, it kept moving after re initializing, every time. It was doing my head in.
The cause was this..............A knackered rear cyclic servo A frame mount. Easy:lol

If anyone is thinking of upping there heli size to CP, GO FLYBARLESS.

Instead of just a tail gyro, its a full tail and cyclic gyro system. Perfect for hard knife edge turns, and anything 3D.

A few of the guys at the flying field have purchased the Goblin 700. This is a massive electric heli! And it is agile as ****!!!

Check this out.............


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vevz6QIaoGY

Womble
30th December 2012, 09:55 PM
The one I got was this one...

2.4GHz 4CH Single Blade Outdoor/Indoor Rc Helicopter V911

http://bit.ly/RZDqHj

Jaycar have it for $89, so $55 delivered seemed a good deal. Looks to be what I need to bridge the gap between the coax ones and the bigger outdoor ones. Need to get to the point where the controls are second nature before I add wind into the mix.

The honeybee I stacked was an original one I bought in 2005 and crashed then, just fixed it up and crashed it again. The honeybee v2 looks a more robust and better designed heli than my one. This one was just too flimsy. Could upgrade the wreck to a v2, the rotor head, motors and drive are the same. Different chassis, skids and boom tho and that's what I keep breaking.

wingtipvortex
30th December 2012, 10:12 PM
Ok cool, 55 delivered, you cant go wrong for fun factor.
Get a sim ( Phoenix ) if your keen to save crashes and coin mate, There are all kinds of helis to practice with.

Frank_fjs
30th December 2012, 10:17 PM
That looks like a clone of the Trex micro, think it was called a Trex 100 or something (haven't been in the heli scene for a while now). Looks good and parts shouldn't be a problem if the Trex ones fit.

danny_galaga
27th January 2013, 12:04 PM
Was it the Honeybee King 2, or original Honeybee?
Indoor helis are fun as! Its where we all started and progressed from. When I go to Dkongs, I love flying his co-axial.

I have now completely sorted my flybarless issues now. Had a ton of headaches trying to level the swash, it kept moving after re initializing, every time. It was doing my head in.
The cause was this..............A knackered rear cyclic servo A frame mount. Easy:lol

If anyone is thinking of upping there heli size to CP, GO FLYBARLESS.

Instead of just a tail gyro, its a full tail and cyclic gyro system. Perfect for hard knife edge turns, and anything 3D.

A few of the guys at the flying field have purchased the Goblin 700. This is a massive electric heli! And it is agile as ****!!!

Check this out.............


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vevz6QIaoGY

Jesus! I just can't get my head around how people can do this sort of stuff :o

The Pinny Parlour
27th January 2013, 09:46 PM
http://youtu.be/vOGzk4Sw1xI

vcoleiro1
18th July 2013, 10:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iupCwvxBj80

joele
18th July 2013, 03:12 PM
Really like the trex 450 DFC which I bought recently to go along with my mcpx, the 450 DFC came with the futaba compatible controller for around AUD$480... Apparently a very stable flybarless heli for people new to collective pitch..

http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/trex-450-plus.html

Though that said I much prefer my planes, my most often flown one at the moment is my Sebart Miss Wind 50E, fantastic small pattern plane..

http://www.wiredrc.com.au/shop/images/source/Sebart%20Miss%20Wind%2050e%20pic%202.jpg