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Roxbury
1st April 2010, 09:20 PM
My next project will be a restore of this LAI 20" cab. I have received it as not-working.


http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/21Mar_2010_Cab from 1P side.JPG

Front Panel has some water damage and is a bit damaged. Will need to be replaced. The wood panels with the control panels attached & speaker panels etc are horrible and will also need to be replaced.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/21Mar_2010_Cab from 2P side.JPG

From the 2P side.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/21Mar_2010_Inside.JPG

Inside the cab from the front. I have noticed that both the Neutral and Earth wires use the same type and colour wires. Don't want to get those mixed up, will change this as part of the restore.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/21Mar_2010_Side.JPG

Side, with vinyl lifting.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/21Mar_2010_Bootleg Time Pilot PCB.JPG

Bootleg Time Pilot PCB.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/21Mar_2010_Bootleg Connectors with solder.JPG

Solder on the PCB edge connector. Yuck.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/28_Mar_2010_Bootleg PCB corrosion.JPG

PCB has some corrosion damage. I think I will put the PCB to the side, and think about trying to fix that later. Ultimately something else will end up in this cab.

I ran a few tests to determine what is working in the cab.

- Power supply is getting 240V
- Monitor is getting 110V
- Power supply is not outputting anything

I will test the PCB on my test rig later.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/21Mar_2010_Power Supply.JPG

The non-working power supply. Has been bashed a bit, will bin it.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/21Mar_2010_Mitsubishi tube.JPG

This at least has a good tube.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/28_Mar_2010_No screenburn.JPG

No screenburn.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/28_Mar_2010_2P Control panel open.JPG

Taking the control panels off, view with panel open.

Made a quick rig to try a JAMMA pcb in the cab (as it is not JAMMA wired), with a working power supply to see what the tube picture is like. I only hooked up the minimum 5V, ground, red, blue, green, & sync to test.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/01April_2010_Tube picture.JPG

The picture is excellent! That was a surprise.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/01April_2010_Chassis1.JPG

View of the chassis.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/01April_2010_Chassis2.JPG

Another view of the chassis.

@lien_Zed
2nd April 2010, 08:36 AM
ya know, this unit isnt too bad

a bit of TLC and it will come up nice

Roxbury
2nd April 2010, 12:24 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/02Apr_2010_Time Pilot running.JPG

Fired up the Time Pilot PCB in the cab. I was very surprised to see it work, only problem is the player and enemy sprites have been replaced with small circles. Maybe this won't be too much effort to fix?

Roxbury
2nd April 2010, 05:12 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/02Apr_2010_Items removed.JPG

Starting to remove bits and pieces to start work.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/02Apr_2010_Tube removed.JPG

Top down view with tube removed.

Roxbury
3rd April 2010, 06:29 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/03_Apr_2010_Top panels to be replaced.JPG

Top panels removed. Will make new ones to replace these.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/03Apr_2010_Front door to be replaced.JPG

Front door to be replaced due to water bloat damage.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/03Apr_2010_Clean up begins.JPG

Clean up for everything begins from here. Will be slow going for a while.

DKong
3rd April 2010, 06:48 PM
Good photo's and write up:)

You might want to think about replacing the monitor chassis, those old kanga deshi (spelling) chassis ( with the flyback in the metal box) will just go really quickly had two go in one week in the same type of cocktail. ( The flybacks go up in a cloud of smoke )
So while you have everything out I would replace the monitor chassis as well, just to save time later, if budget permits.

I have the exact same CT (used to have 2) Crazy Kong with original CP artwork, sold one and kept the good bits from one to make it a worker $80.00 all up for both:o miss those days.

Look forward to the restore, have mine awaiting a new chassis from Joey when I can get around to it.

Does yours have a power off/on button on the cab. both mine were straight to mains :unsure

Roxbury
3rd April 2010, 06:58 PM
You might want to think about replacing the monitor chassis, those old kanga deshi (spelling) chassis ( with the flyback in the metal box) will just go really quickly had two go in one week in the same type of cocktail. ( The flybacks go up in a cloud of smoke )


Yeah I was thinking about that, I thought I would do it for sure but then the picture came up so good! I don't think this is a Kaga Denshi chassis, although it has the same looking flyback in metal box. I might ask Jomac for his opinion.



Does yours have a power off/on button on the cab. both mine were straight to mains :unsure

No power on/off on this either.

***Edit***

After consulting Jomac, this is a Kaga Denshi chassis, and I should replace it, as the Flyback will go up in flames spectacularly when it does.

Roxbury
4th April 2010, 06:26 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/04Apr_2010_Grill & Fan.JPG

Removing the grill revealed so much filth that it plugged up the whole space for airflow into the cab.

The fan fell apart on removal. Probably explains why it was disconnected.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/04Apr_2010_Ready to remove rust.JPG

Some metal parts screwed to the bench ready for rust & corrosion removal with a grinder brush.

Roxbury
5th April 2010, 02:14 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/05Apr_2010_Coin Meter.JPG

By my calculations this game raked in about $18,000 in its life.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/05Apr_2010_Nearly gutted.JPG

Wasn't sure if I was going to almost gut this cabinet, but I have now.

Roxbury
5th April 2010, 05:40 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/05Apr_2010_Side Vinyl Lifting.JPG

Removed this side of vinyl as it was lifting. Will replace with some chalkboard vinyl.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/05Apr_2010_Vinyl removed leaving glue.JPG

When I removed the vinyl, there was heaps of glue left on the chipboard. I figured this should be removed for better adhesion of the new vinyl. You can see the glue in the pic. The way I removed the glue was by:

- Applying general thinners with a rag to the glue, rubbing until the glue was removed.
- Cleaning up left over stickiness with methylated spirits.
- Giving the side a wash with warm soapy water to finish off.

This method worked well for this job.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/05Apr_2010_Vinyl glue removed.JPG

All glue removed now.

Roxbury
6th April 2010, 06:11 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/06Apr_2010_screw.JPG

In the previous picture where the glue was removed from the side, there are 4 screw holes on the bottom. These are not standard, and I wondered what they were for. There has been some type of repair to hold the side to the base. One of the screws put in ran into another screw as pictured. I removed this screw as it was not really needed. To assist putting on vinyl later, I will fill the holes.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/06Apr_2010_Knead It.JPG

I used Sellys Knead It to fill the holes. This was my first go with this stuff, it is really good.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/06Apr_2010_sanded.JPG

Next time I use it I won't overfill too much - this stuff is tough, and is not like sanding off a bit of skim coat! The finish is really smooth.

giova_sf_fan
6th April 2010, 06:57 PM
Great worklog Rox, a great imsight so far into restoring a cocktail, which i would love to own one day soon. Keep it up mate, Love it!!

Roxbury
6th April 2010, 07:18 PM
Great worklog Rox, a great imsight so far into restoring a cocktail, which i would love to own one day soon. Keep it up mate, Love it!!

Thanks! Progress will be a lot slower now - back to work after holidays :(

@lien_Zed
7th April 2010, 07:36 AM
next time you fill holes with knead it, run paint scraper over the top to get rid of the excess

when it sets, it is as hard as concrete as you have discovered

Roxbury
11th April 2010, 09:32 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Apr_2010_Jomac Chassis.JPG

Received a replacement Jomac chassis. I will probably get rid of the transformer in the cab, as these chassis have an inbuilt isolation transformer, and auto detect voltage input (~100 - 240V)

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Apr_2010_Vinyl accessories.JPG

Time to put some vinyl on the side. I haven't done this before, so its the first time. Firstly I wiped the area over with a tack cloth to remove any dust & residue. I cut a square of vinyl that was a bit bigger for the area to apply then trim. I then scored the back of the paper, to expose about 8cm of vinyl sticker.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Apr_2010_squidgee.JPG

After researching different application methods for adhesive backed vinyl, for the size of the piece and the fact that I didn't need to line up any holes or edges I chose to go dry. I started out putting the top piece about 1cm over the top. Then used a squidgee to methodically push the vinyl onto the side, slowly ediging further to avoid air bubbles.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Apr_2010_rolling down.JPG

As I sqidgeed down further, I pulled the backing off the vinyl a bit further each time.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Apr_2010_vinyl attached.JPG

Now all vinyl attached. Time to trim back.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Apr_2010_straight edge.JPG

When using a sharp knife to trim bck the vinyl along a wooden edge it is easy to dig the knife into the wooden edge just a little along the way, meaning things may not be completely even.

To ensure a straight cut, I got a metal straight edge and clipped along the edge but had it slightly over by a mm or so. I then used a metal ruller to run along the edge, pushing firmly to push the straight edge to exact alignment. Using the sharp knife, I cut the vinyl against the metal straight edge, ending up with a perfectly straight exactly where needs to be. For the rounded corners, I carefully cut around them free hand.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Apr_2010_finished.JPG

The finished application - I am happy with the result. I will need to sort out some holes, that will be easy though.

@lien_Zed
12th April 2010, 12:47 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Apr_2010_Jomac Chassis.JPG

Received a replacement Jomac chassis. I will probably get rid of the transformer in the cab, as these chassis have an inbuilt isolation transformer, and auto detect voltage input (~100 - 240V)



i know these chassis

they are used in a particular brand of poker machine that i wont name

these chassis last forever:cool:

Jomac
12th April 2010, 02:46 PM
i know these chassis

they are used in a particular brand of poker machine that i wont name

these chassis last forever:cool:

I supply a variation of these chassis for gaming machines , looks almost identical but it's not the same , This chassis is 12 pin version that uses a very different flyback and also has an added Horizontal correction circuit and few other bits

The gaming machine ones have a 10 pin tube , split H+V sync , lower heater and focus voltage , no pin cushion correction circuit , different flyback etc , but yes they go forever :)

Roxbury
18th April 2010, 05:21 PM
I have put new overlay on the other side now.

Next up I will sort out the existing harness.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/18Apr_2010_harness.JPG

**EDIT** I will convert the edge connector to JAMMA with a universal harness to Jamma adapter ($20 from in2Amusements - not worth the effort doing anything else when they are so cheap!!)

Roxbury
25th April 2010, 09:10 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/25Apr_2010_Earth_Plate_Added.JPG

Have removed the isolation transformer. I have put a metal plate down to attach various earth loop connections to that were previously attached to the transformer.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/25Apr_2010_PSU_Installed_Front.JPG

I have moved a couple of things around to make room for a new power supply.

Roxbury
28th April 2010, 09:08 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/28Apr_2010_New_Bits.JPG

Received some new bits from in2Amusements today. New joysticks, Universal to Jamma Harness, fan, buttons & cam lock.

@lien_Zed
28th April 2010, 09:37 PM
cool... a box full of goodies... looking forward to more updates :cool:

63wizz
28th April 2010, 10:11 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/28Apr_2010_New_Bits.JPG

Received some new bits from in2Amusements today. New joysticks, Universal to Jamma Harness, fan, buttons & cam lock.

Hey Roxbury is the threaded shaft on the new cam lock longer than a normal hardware store cam lock,
The reason i ask is that i need a cam lock with a long shaft for a pinball machine head box, the normal ones are to short.

ian

Roxbury
28th April 2010, 10:42 PM
Hey Roxbury is the threaded shaft on the new cam lock longer than a normal hardware store cam lock,
The reason i ask is that i need a cam lock with a long shaft for a pinball machine head box, the normal ones are to short.

ian

The threaded shaft is 27mm long. Not sure if thats long enough for you?

63wizz
29th April 2010, 05:39 PM
The threaded shaft is 27mm long. Not sure if thats long enough for you?


Thanks Roxbury, they might be ok, the one i have here is only 19mm, i think ill take a punt and order a couple. thanks mate.

Ian

Roxbury
2nd May 2010, 04:38 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/02May_2010_AC Distributor.JPG

Made an AC distributor with a terminal panel, 90 degree & 45 degree 6.4mm lugs from Jaycar.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/02May_2010_AC Distributor secured.JPG

Secured the AC distributor in the cab, will use a plastic jiffy box to cover it up.

kezza
3rd May 2010, 05:16 PM
looks good mate! coming along nice! :)

Roxbury
9th May 2010, 08:43 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/09May_2010_Fan & AC.JPG

Put a new fan in, and Jamma harness. Also in the process of re-wiring the AC connections to all use the distributor rather than splitting from the wires at various points.

DKong
9th May 2010, 09:48 PM
Looking neat, I need to do the same to mine.
How about all the earth connectors on these cabs seems everything has a separate earth.:)
Are you using a 240v fan or 12v?

Roxbury
9th May 2010, 09:56 PM
All the earths were connected on this one.
I am using a 240V fan, I like to just run off the AC rather than mess with the 12v.

Roxbury
16th May 2010, 04:06 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/16May_2010_AC_Wiring.JPG

I have put holes as required in the plastic cover for the AC distributor. Still need to put the monitor AC in through the top.


http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/16May_2010_Leg Caps.JPG

Found the right size plastic caps for cocktail legs which I have had powdercoated. These came from Bunnings.


http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/16May_2010_New_legs.JPG

Powdercoated legs up on cabinet now. I used my favourite trick with the leg screws. Removed rust with wire bruch, then spraypaint with gloss enamel black. Leave for one week to dry before using, to ensure the paint hardens up nicely.

daics3522
16th May 2010, 04:37 PM
Looking good Rox ............

Roxbury
16th May 2010, 07:46 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/16May_2010_new_top.JPG

With a bit of help from my Dad the new top has been made.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/16May_2010_new_top2.JPG

Another view of the new top.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/16May_2010_new_front_door.JPG

New front door panel.

Next up I will need to drill some more holes for screws etc, then cover with vinyl.

Roxbury
18th May 2010, 06:58 PM
Received some woodgrain adhesive vinyl for the new sides.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/18May_2010_Woodgrain Vinyl.JPG

I got this stuff from http://www.crockerspaint.com/. Great quick service. I have other projects, so I bought a 15m roll, and it took me long enough to find a place in Australia that sells this style. Cost $89 + postage. The colour style is Walnut.

Dice275o
18th May 2010, 08:35 PM
Wow! This is coming along nicely...

Roxbury
29th May 2010, 06:52 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/29May_2010_Desk_Stay.JPG

Bought a new hinge for the front panel. I have discovered these are called a "Desk Stay". It's amazing how long it sometimes takes to find something so simple.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/29May_2010_Woodgrain_Vinyl_front.JPG

Have lined the inside of the new front panel with the woodgrain vinyl. I am very happy with this stuff.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/29May_2010_Vinyl_Front.JPG

New black vinyl for the front.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/29May_2010_Lid_Open.JPG

Put things back together now.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/29May_2010_front_new_lock.JPG

Put new cam lock on, looking good.

Foot
29th May 2010, 07:39 PM
That door came up great

kane
29th May 2010, 09:27 PM
Bought a new hinge for the front panel. I have discovered these are called a "Desk Stay".

I need one of these too, where abouts did you find it?

Roxbury
29th May 2010, 09:47 PM
I need one of these too, where abouts did you find it?

I got it from a Mitre 10 store. I have also seen them at Bunnings. Should be located in the same area with drawer accessories, cupboard hinges etc.

kane
30th May 2010, 01:13 AM
I got it from a Mitre 10 store. I have also seen them at Bunnings. Should be located in the same area with drawer accessories, cupboard hinges etc.

Ah, thanks for that. I can never find anything in Bunnings...

Roxbury
14th June 2010, 06:02 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/14Jun_2010_bolt_holes.JPG

Drilled all the bolt holes in the new top frame, also put a few screw holes for things in as well.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/14Jun_2010_inside_vinyl_done.JPG

Applied vinyl to the inside of the frame.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/14Jun_2010_vinyl_progress.JPG

Progress shot of applying vinyl to the outside of the frame. The trick is to be careful, and continually use a squeegy to make sure there are no air bubbles etc.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/14Jun_2010_Top_vinyl_complete.JPG

Finished product with vinyl applied to inside & out of top frame.

dezbaz
15th June 2010, 08:27 AM
Excellent Progress!

Nice work and details :) Thanks

DKong
15th June 2010, 08:32 AM
Looking like new!
I'm enjoying this thread, great work. Should help me when I get around to mine.

Roxbury
19th June 2010, 06:45 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/19Jun_2010_top_frame_mounted.JPG

Have mounted the top frame now. Between the top and bottom frames, there is a 4mm. There are some L shape brackets that attach to both, the 4mm is necessary for everything to fit together neatly.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/19Jun_2010_chassis_fram_before.JPG

I have put the coin box in now. I need to decide how to mount the chassis. The old Kaga Denshi chassis had a frame mounted to the side of the coin box. The new chassis is only one piece, so it is a different shape and the flyback is not a separate unit, so I'll need to do some adjusting. First, here is the chassis frame with the old chassis removed. Note, if you do this keep the old screws when you take the old chassis off.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/19Jun_2010_chassis_frame_after.JPG

To have enough room to fit the tube in with the new chassis mounted on the side, I have to mount it lengthways along the bottom of the frame, with the flyback on the P2 side. To enable a secure mount to the frame, I drilled out the rivets from the middle brackets. It just so happens that the frame is the exact correct length for the new chassis. I drilled some new holes in the bracket piece that was in the middle to line up with existing holes in the remainder of the frame. I attached these pieces together with the old screws.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/19Jun_2010_chassis_on_frame.JPG

Next, I lined up the chassis on the frame. Marked out new holes to drill in the frame in line with the chassis holes. Used the old screws again to attach.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/19Jun_2010_chassis_tube.JPG

Mounted the chassis & frame in the cab on the coinbox. Put the tube in temporarily to see how the fit was, and it works out very well with sufficient room.

Roxbury
20th June 2010, 08:49 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/20Jun_2010_CP_attached.JPG

Started putting more bits and pieces on the cab. Speakers, coin mechs, control panels attached. The control panels are from a batch I had powder coated previously.

dezbaz
20th June 2010, 08:52 PM
Excellent, Loving the way this is coming together :)

Roxbury
27th June 2010, 07:26 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/27Jun_2010_Tube.JPG

Tube in now.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/27Jun_2010_Monitor Connected.JPG

Wired up the monitor chassis to AC, Jamma harness & tube.

dezbaz
27th June 2010, 07:34 PM
Tube in now.

Wired up the monitor chassis to AC, Jamma harness & tube.

Incredible
nice one
:)

Roxbury
11th July 2010, 08:39 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Jul_2010_CP pre restore.JPG

This is one of the control panels I have put on this cab before cleaning up & powder coating. These control panel came from a different cab.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/11Jul_2010_CP installed.JPG

I have wired up the control panels now. Here is the 1P side.

Roxbury
17th July 2010, 10:51 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/17Jul_2010_Side.JPG

Everything back together now. Gave the glass lid a clean. Lots of light scratching, but still looks good.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/17Jul_2010_Game.JPG

After testing all the voltges, tried a game board. Picture looks good.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/17Jul_2010_Front_Complete.JPG

Although the woodgrain vinyl I used is lighter than the woodgrain pattern on the lid, it doesn't look as light as it does in the pictures.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/17Jul_2010_Front_Angle.JPG

I still haven't decided what game to put in it yet. Any ideas? Thats the only thing I need to do now to complete the restore. At this point it is worth looking back at the first post to see what this looked like originally

Davefjedi
18th July 2010, 12:02 AM
UMMM the monitor is the wrong way for PANG mate :lol:lol

dezbaz
18th July 2010, 12:41 AM
Wow, nice restore mate

Looks Great now :)

wingtipvortex
18th July 2010, 01:31 AM
That looks better than factory! Great job mate! Gotta put Galaga in it, didn't they all have that game in them:cool: The one at Mr Pizza did.

spriggy
18th July 2010, 12:16 PM
Nice work m8

Roxbury
25th July 2010, 04:12 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/25July_2010_Pengo_harness.JPG

For now I have decided to put Pengo into this cocktail.

I had an untested board, and it worked! Put together a harness.

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/25July_2010_Pengo_running.JPG

Here it is running. Pengo is a great little game.

Davefjedi
25th July 2010, 05:42 PM
Yep PENGO rocks every time I play it I imagine it is Jas on the screen

Roxbury
31st October 2010, 07:05 PM
http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/31Oct_2010_ProgPCB.JPG

http://tehkella.net/damian/LAI Time Pilot/31Oct_2010_2Button.JPG

Small update on this. Have swapped the control panel for a 2 button I just got back from the powder coaters. Have installed a Programmable PCB from Paradise Arcadeshop. Its a good unit, easy to program. The game menu system is awesome, and the confguration options easy to access and change. I haven't played much yet, but I am very happy so far.

dezbaz
1st November 2010, 08:36 AM
Very Nice :)

DKong
1st November 2010, 10:44 AM
Top stuff! What Multi board is that ?

Roxbury
1st November 2010, 12:13 PM
Top stuff! What Multi board is that ?

Its the one that is the same as the Arcadeshop.com used to sell. Cost me $275 USD + shipping.

I'm happy if you have questions about what it is like.

I managed to fit about 35 vertical games on it.

DKong
1st November 2010, 12:19 PM
Its the one that is the same as the Arcadeshop.com used to sell. Cost me $275 USD + shipping.

I'm happy if you have questions about what it is like.

I managed to fit about 35 vertical games on it.


Yes there was a thread recently about some other ones from here (http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/multiboards/34-programmable-jamma-pcb.html).

Question 1 Can you add any games to it or just the ones from the list

Question 2 Do they suffer the same problems as the 48-1's ( sound etc)

Question 3 Overall was it worth the extra money compared to the above mentioned boards

Thanks

Roxbury
1st November 2010, 01:19 PM
Yes there was a thread recently about some other ones from here (http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/multiboards/34-programmable-jamma-pcb.html).

Question 1 Can you add any games to it or just the ones from the list

Question 2 Do they suffer the same problems as the 48-1's ( sound etc)

Question 3 Overall was it worth the extra money compared to the above mentioned boards

Thanks

1) You can only add games from the list

2) From the small time I have used it so far the sound is good. I think it is likely that some sounds might be a little bit different when compared to actual hardware, rather than sounding crap like some games on the 48 in 1. I have noticed that most of the games that do sound rubbish on the 48 in 1 aren't available on this.

3) For someone like me, yes. I am happy with my 48 in 1, but the crappy menu, lack of good high score saving and some bad sounds irked me a bit. I think for average people, a standard 48/60 in 1 will be fine. Also these boards can be programmed for horizantal games, of which there are a few Williams Classics (I won't be using this one horizontally, and you can't have vertical & horizontal games installed at the same time).

The service from Paradise Arcadeshop was good. I'll need to use it more to give more feedback.