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MrMaloo
6th August 2009, 09:03 PM
Title : Fish Tales
Manufacturer : Williams
Year : 1992


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Quote from Tony at The Pinball Shed :

Worked on 8 of these in the past year. 4 had a broken belt that drives the ball locking reel on the left handside. You need to remove this assembly from underneath, bit of a tricky one, just take your time. The belts are available here in Aust and are under $10.
The boathouse on the righthand side has a small single drop target that also seems to give a bit of trouble, underneath it drops down onto a switch and has a spring attached to flick it back. Have had to either adjust this switch or in some case replace it, spring also known to snap or jump off.
3 of these games also had the flapping fish topper not working, there is a coil behind the fish that causing the slapping effect. In all cases, a wire had come off the coil.
Overall a good family game, that is fairly reliable with not too many problem areas.

Fish Tales
6th August 2009, 09:26 PM
Problems I have noticed.

Missing flapping fish and/or plastic bubble cover (often damaged). Missing pistol grip shooter handle, often substituted for a manual plunger or a large press button. Decals nearly allways faded, often one side worse than the other. Playfield wear around the large fish inserts, wear around the boat ramp. Little gate that opens for long cast (at top left of PF) often not working (activated by roll-over switch at top right if PF). Like Tony said reel belt needs to be kept good. Optos on reel need to be cleaned to maintain proper function. Bottom corners of slingshot plastics dont last long. All in all a very reliable machine really.

Maxprofits
8th June 2010, 06:32 PM
Both plastics either side of the boat ramp get smashed, also the boat ramp plastic and both slings. Fit fender (mudguard) washers to all these places. Also blow a 240V surge protector on this machine, never done one before. :o
One of the most reliable games I've owned. Great family game, my kids love it. :D

Syzlack
8th June 2010, 06:52 PM
The damn cast button sticks all the time and Im too lazy to buy a new one.

Railways
17th June 2010, 09:45 PM
+1 to the above probs. Apart from the parts missing thing (topper etc) both my FT have had broken belts,boat plastics,blue plastics on both sides of ramp,finicky caster house drop target adjustment,dirty optos esp.reel as greg said(they are hard to get to so a good chance no-one has ever cleaned them) and one had a broken leaf on the VUK but all in all apart from insert wear and cab fade never had an ongoing problem. My guess is with the amount of FT made and a pretty good reliabity it would have made a lot of money on-site.:)

Mr Pubstuff
4th July 2010, 12:54 PM
+1 for the topper, mine had broken off, nothing that a bit of solder didnt fix.
+1 for the belt also and the optos, as mine also had this issue.
otherwise a good fun simple machine to play and everyone always enjoys it.

flipperage
17th February 2011, 07:19 PM
Hi - I am new to the site but have a problem with my recent purchase of a FT. Everytime you shoot a ball into the reel it pops it straight out again making it impossible to load 3 balls for multiball.
Appreciate some advice from anyone that has had this problem and/or may have solution. Cheers, Flipperage:D

Fire_Power
17th February 2011, 07:51 PM
Run the diagnostics from the menu - there is one that tests the reel and indicates the state of the optos - this may reveal your problem.

Mr Pubstuff
18th February 2011, 06:25 AM
Run the diagnostics from the menu - there is one that tests the reel and indicates the state of the optos - this may reveal your problem.

i had this problem last week. the switch on the x-over rail just b4 it enters the the reel had a wire break loose and was not registering the ball passing thru the switch which tells the reel to lock it. a dob of solder to replace the wire and all working again like it should have. check that switch for adjustment and/or wire adrift would be my suggestion.

fishburgr
22nd July 2011, 01:30 PM
Anyone have any idea why when the ball pops into the shooter lane, about 50% of the time it fires itself without me pressing the button?

kayakkingoz
22nd July 2011, 01:34 PM
it does this if Auto cast.ie:if you lose the ball too early it gives it to you again

fishburgr
22nd July 2011, 02:08 PM
Yeah even when you start a new game it will often just shoot the first ball out without pressing the button.

rod71
22nd July 2011, 02:08 PM
There is also a setting to let the flippers cast the ball instead of pushing the button.

MrMaloo
22nd July 2011, 02:13 PM
Yeah even when you start a new game it will often just shoot the first ball out without pressing the button.

Sounds like your button on the reel shooter could be stuck . It's a pretty common problem . Remove the whole shooter handle assembly , pull apart and give everything a good clean . If it's not the actual button that's stuck it could also be the switch directly under the button .

fishburgr
22nd July 2011, 04:05 PM
Rod 71, yeah Ive checked that one too thanks. Cruiser, the switch test for the button seems to be working but I guess it has to be a problem in there somewhere. I will investigate and report back if I find anything useful that someone else may use in the future.

Fire_Power
22nd July 2011, 09:59 PM
I think there's a setting that will fire the ball after a time if you just leave it sitting there.

Fish Tales
22nd July 2011, 10:09 PM
timed plunger

Claude
28th August 2011, 07:59 AM
My Fishtales has just been taken out of a ~4 year hibernation and I have no sound at all (amongst various other issues). Any suggestions on where to start with fault finding or pointing me to an existing resource.

Went through sounds self test and no errors but no sound for each sound bite.

Machine came up with factory settings as I guess the batteries ran flat.

Cheers

Claude

rod71
28th August 2011, 08:14 AM
My Fishtales has just been taken out of a ~4 year hibernation and I have no sound at all (amongst various other issues). Any suggestions on where to start with fault finding or pointing me to an existing resource.

Went through sounds self test and no errors but no sound for each sound bite.

Machine came up with factory settings as I guess the batteries ran flat.

Cheers

Claude

Batteries probably leaked f you failed to remove them before storing it.

Claude
28th August 2011, 08:44 AM
Batteries probably leaked f you failed to remove them before storing it.

First thing I checked and surprisingly they were OK but I put fresh ones in anyway.

rod71
28th August 2011, 09:14 AM
On power up, how many beeps are you getting?. Not to be confused with "bong bong bong" if there are switch errors etc.

Claude
28th August 2011, 09:48 AM
On power up, how many beeps are you getting?. Not to be confused with "bong bong bong" if there are switch errors etc.

I'm not getting any distinctive system generated beeps, just a bit of clicking or popping sound as soon as the pin powers up, then silence or just a low level hum.

I'm guessing the amp is gone, but could be wrong. Will try and figure out how to get line output to an external amp and test for sound.

rod71
28th August 2011, 09:54 AM
check fuses F501 and F502

Claude
28th August 2011, 10:14 AM
check fuses F501 and F502

Thanks for all your tips Rod. Did a continuity test on those and other unrelated fuses while I was at it and they appeared OK.

rod71
28th August 2011, 10:26 AM
Hmmm, you might be on the right track with the amp then. This is from pinrepair guide.

"No output at all.
The LM1875 audio amp is probably defective. This amp should have -26 volts
on pin 3, and +26 volts on pin 5. Anything else indicates a problem. The
sound ROM or RAM could be defective. There should be high pulses on the
output pins of the Sound ROM and RAM. The MC3340 attenuator can also
cause this problem."

Fish Tales
29th August 2011, 09:09 PM
Some more issues:
1. Ball bouncing back out of fishing reel, often going into the next reel hole, which stuffs-up the loading sequence. Fix: adjusting the wireform ramp, loosen the screw that holds the ramp to the reel, and push the ramp a little more towards the top of the pin, tighten screw.

2. (common to my last FT), balls existing the wireform ramp in multiball draining straight down the guts. Fix:move wireform ramp towards RHS (shooter lane side) so ball lands on the left flipper after exiting wireform. It took some work to get this rite, and even now 1 ball in 10 will drain (you get it back via a ball save).

3. Balls launching into the shooter lane bouncing back into the trough area. My last FT did this as well. Fix bend the kicker slightly, maybe there is a better way :unsure but it has worked for me.

Normally a really reliable machine, but years of neglect, and dodgy repairs will kill anything.

FLEX
1st August 2016, 10:29 AM
ROM version reset fault.
Rom version P-4 will reset the game if replay levels are set to give extra balls instead of credits.
This may effect other versions, cannot be sure.