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spriggy
12th July 2009, 12:16 AM
It's amazing what 8 beers does to my mouth :huh: .... hence .....

With the mates Lowboy project getting closer to finnato ... my own, old project list is getting ready to get off it's ass <_<

I had placed my 'Cosmic Guerilla' resto 1st on the list ... however .. only having just come back after upteen years ... I'm itching to cain the router, tablesaw, drill, hammer, beer .. :rolleyes I've already got everything substantial for the Guerilla .. and another couple of months won't hurt the bitch I've had laying around being lazy since '04 !! <_< So... I've brushed off my replica project of the beautifully simplistic 'Track & Field' cocktail. .. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=24005.0

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6731/cocktailflyerweb.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/cocktailflyerweb.jpg/)

So.. as a brief overview of my dribble on the original BYOAC thread.. The original idea was to run mame and have the 6 or 7 odd games that run the same 'Track & Field' theme and button layout via a menu and so on. But now that I'm older and wiser ... She's going to be dedicated. As I 've said b4 in my short life in this forum.. mame has it's place.. either as a 1-off multi-cab in the gamesroom... or when original gear is impossible to find... but that's about it for me now.

My old mate Wade from the land of bad spelling, lotsa nukes, puppet presidents and stacks of BS, dimensioned his T&F for me, whilst he was restoring her. I compiled the cab from these dims on Sketchup. Slight internal poetic license was added to things like furring strips, brackets etc.. to assist in streamling production etc.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2374/xrayrender.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/xrayrender.jpg/)
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4953/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg/)

I'll be setting her up under the original 'Konami Classic' wiring harness. On top of the original T&F pcb... I'd ideally also like to have the sequel, 'Hyper Sports', mounted for easy switch over. Konami's attempt @ a trilogy, 'Konami 88', is pretty dodgy unfortunately... so I'm not really interested in her. Once the lowboy is out the door, I'll start hunting for the pcb's and coin door (already located some possible's :cool: ) Screen-printed CPO's have already been obtained.

Game on soon! :bike2:

Claude
12th July 2009, 12:37 AM
That's a great looking sketchup of the cab there spriggy. Should be a great dedicated cab, but would also make for a nice generic cocktail.

Nice simple design but looks great. Ozstick have something similar http://www.ozstick.com.au/prod_cabs.html

Look forward to the progress.

BettyCrocker1942
12th July 2009, 02:25 PM
Wow Spriggy!! :o
That is awesome.

Ill hopefully be going down this road to get a T&F cocktail built one day.
Looks very good so far!

spriggy
12th July 2009, 04:36 PM
Yeh .. looking foward to it. The repro screenprinted CPO's are a kick in the teeth @ $150us for the pair :huh: .. They are still available .. but stock is getting low around the place as Darin from Pheonix Arcade, only originally did a single run of these screenprints.. No openly available scans of the CPO's exist, as far as I know. If so .. someones keeping them close to their chest.<_< Hence, getting them printed digitally is not an option.
Repro bezels are available as well as 'Centuri' coin door stickers in case you can't find an original door.
Leaf Switch button assemblies (for metal CP's) and buttons are readily available.. but again.. @ around $5us a button (leaf assembly and short button) x 18 plus shipping = ouch again . Comes with the territory though .. so no complaining from me.
I've tracked down a boardset. Getting a shipping quote from the US.

GIBO
12th July 2009, 05:36 PM
I have some CPO artwork files for the trackball version of T&F if you decide to go down that route

spacies
12th July 2009, 05:43 PM
I have some CPO artwork files for the trackball version of T&F if you decide to go down that route

Are those cocktail files Gibo? If so, is the art similar because it could prolly be modified.

GIBO
12th July 2009, 05:58 PM
Are those cocktail files Gibo? If so, is the art similar because it could prolly be modified.

No they are for an upright but artwork is basically the same and knowing spriggy he is pretty handy with illustrator

spacies
12th July 2009, 05:59 PM
Easy as pie then!

spriggy
12th July 2009, 08:23 PM
I have some CPO artwork files for the trackball version of T&F if you decide to go down that route

Thx 4 the offer m8. Won't be going down that path however. The trackball version CPO's are completely different unfort ... so no easy illustrator modding :cry

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5194/tftrackballcpo.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/tftrackballcpo.jpg/)

dezbaz
12th July 2009, 08:40 PM
I like that style of cab, quite narrow, looks good mate

spriggy
12th July 2009, 09:34 PM
I like that style of cab, quite narrow, looks good mate

The width of the cocktail is quite deceiving. It's actually as wide as most US uprights. The control panels are 603mm wide (1 foot, 11 3/4 inches). Thats about 70mm wider than a lowboy cp for reference.

Here's Wade's T&F cocktail after the resto. Without the extension base on. Drool! :118:

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3470/wadestf.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/wadestf.jpg/)

dezbaz
12th July 2009, 11:05 PM
The width of the cocktail is quite deceiving. It's actually as wide as most US uprights. The control panels are 603mm wide (1 foot, 11 3/4 inches). Thats about 70mm wider than a lowboy cp for reference.

Here's Wade's T&F cocktail after the resto. Without the extension base on. Drool! :118:

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3470/wadestf.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/wadestf.jpg/)

Very Nice

tnpshow
12th July 2009, 11:31 PM
They are an awesome looking cocktail.

I'd love to build one myself one day. Good choice!

spriggy
16th July 2009, 12:38 AM
Whilst I wait on my 3 parts and artwork packages for the Lowboy project .. I put some time into this project whilst I'm on arvo shifts at work. Gives me a few midday hours before work.

Have fully revised the sketchup model, changing a few internal parts to match the original cab logistics better. Revised ALL of my digital pics from Wade's machine .. in and out ... as a guide. One more revision on the cabinet sides and i think it's ready for build time.

The cabinet will look confidentally identical externally... and pretty damn close internally. Things like the main cross beams that the upper part of the control panels are screwed to, were originally pressed up in mild steel, with a fancy extra flange. I've changed parts like this in certain ways to make construction a bit easier. EG.. this is now a 3/8" thick piece of wood/mdf, with a 2mm piece of sheet metal attached, pressed to suit (resting edge for the cardboard bezel) You get the gist ;)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4953/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg/)

I had sourced a coin door for $15us ... but the thief wanted $85us shipping. "Lick my Balls' comes to mind <_< All others parts have been sourced.

As expected, a few people will probably be interested in building this baby. Do you blame them :cool: The only problem I see are the CPO's. After the build is finished.. I'm going to try to compile a set of vector CPO's so that they can be used for AA members that require digital prints instead of forking out the $150us for screenprinted sets... if any are left. I wouldn't dream of asking Darin (Phoenix Arcade) for his set.
(#EDIT# 17/09/09. No longer will be vectoring the CPO's. Darin will be possibly restocking. Don't want to step on his toes at all)

I imagine the thread will stay pretty quiet now until the lowboys done...

stay tuned ....

dezbaz
16th July 2009, 09:41 AM
I've changed parts like this in certain ways to make construction a bit easier. EG.. this is now a 3/8" thick piece of wood/mdf, with a 2mm piece of sheet metal attached, pressed to suit (resting edge for the cardboard bezel) You get the gist ;)

stay tuned ....

I agree changing slightly is a practical idea.

It's not as if you are claiming it is an original.

My replicas are close to the original, and I am OK with that.

Lifes too short . . . .

Good one, I Look forward to the follow ups Spriggy

spriggy
16th July 2009, 05:57 PM
So I lied <_< ...

I wasn't happy with some aspects of the revised plan.... so re-referenced dimensions and digital pics again :rolleyes, and modified the plans to final stage right down to the furring strips and brackets. The inner panels around the coin box area will be dealt with at build stage. Will need to get the monitor in first and then work around that. Found one pic of the innards to help for this stage.

The build is probably a month away, whilst I finish the lowboy. Parts for that are all shipping now.

I'm happy .... for now :blink:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8265/final2z.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/final2z.jpg/)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3180/final1a.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/final1a.jpg/)

dezbaz
16th July 2009, 08:20 PM
So I lied <_< ...

I wasn't happy with some aspects of the revised plan.... so re-referenced dimensions and digital pics again :rolleyes, and modified the plans to final stage right down to the furring strips and brackets. The inner panels around the coin box area will be dealt with at build stage. Will need to get the monitor in first and then work around that. Found one pic of the innards to help for this stage.

The build is probably a month away, whilst I finish the lowboy. Parts for that are all shipping now.

I'm happy .... for now :blink:


Did you draw the pics mate? If so, you're farken good!

spriggy
16th July 2009, 10:42 PM
Did you draw the pics mate? If so, you're farken good!

Yeh.. I drew them. Sketchup isn't really that hard. There are definately better programs out there, but for quick designs and logistic plans ... you can't beat it imo. When I first started to use it, I just followed all the tutorials I could find. I've used Photoshop, illustrator, DeltaCAD for many years ... so that sorta helps to wrap your head around some things.

If you had all the dimensions of the general panels.. a simple model of a whole cabinet could be done from an hour to a couple of hours.

I used to use DeltaCAD a lot (the easiest 2d cad progam imo) ... but nothing beats seeing how it all fits together.

spriggy
1st August 2009, 01:31 PM
Kwik update..

Coin Door been diffilcut to find ... Tried the normal forums. I imagine plenty out there, as I thing they were generic Wico Doors and Manufacturers jsut made name plates for the center divet... but I can't find them. <_<
No biggy really. The coin door shown on Wades restored T&F isn't original either. Hard to tell unless u know what your looking for. So .. I'll use the one I have laying around. Needs a bit of work... but nothing broken, missing and it's straight.

T&F Gameboard currently shipping. As for pushbuttons... obviously leaf as the original. Was looking at Randy's micro-leafs (from GGG's) . Very cool ...http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=309
.. but I think I'll stay true to the cab.
Just need to source a good 19" / 48cm tv tube to go with one of Joey's chassis's and that's all my major parts done.

Full project roll-out still on hold until I finish mates machine... <_< That's not too far away as I got the last box of parts a few days ago and it's primed for topcoat. My router is itching for big action!!!:071:

spriggy
6th August 2009, 11:45 AM
Gameboard arrived today :cool:.. However, having only started the hobby again, haven't got any running jamma cabs to test on. Also, coz the T&F will be wired up as Konami Classic, no need to make a konami-to-jamma adapter.

Any Perth boys able to test a T&F board on any of their set-ups? If not .. may have to build a simple test rig. Only need video and power to test anyway.

dezbaz
6th August 2009, 10:57 PM
Could sort it out for you mate, my rig is Jamma, but I have all the edge conns / etc to sort it

spriggy
6th August 2009, 11:16 PM
Could sort it out for you mate, my rig is Jamma, but I have all the edge conns / etc to sort it

I'll PM you m8 instead of crapping on here. Cheers

narf_
16th August 2009, 09:46 AM
http://teenormous.com/go?id=80stees-Konami-Track-And-Field-t-shirt-125295

to play one must be one :lol

spriggy
16th August 2009, 12:12 PM
:cool: Believe it or not I found that tee the other night and was contemplating. I like my 80's themed t's and have a few. This one seems a bit more nerdy however ... Probably still get it though. Favorites game do that sort of shit too ya :huh:;) Wearing that thing into Gibo and Morries will probably cause cacka to be thrown in my general direction :rolleyes
But do u really think I'll give a damn? :D

#edit# This one's more like it http://teenormous.com/go?id=80stees-Konami-Track-And-Field-t-shirt-125295 .. probably get both! :)

narf_
16th August 2009, 12:36 PM
no shame in wearing it mate

try out jj's.

im proud to wear my knight rider hoff shirt in public :lol

spriggy
16th August 2009, 12:55 PM
no shame in wearing it mate

try out jj's.

im proud to wear my knight rider hoff shirt in public :lol

I've have no shame.. so no problems there m8. Yeh .. wife is always coming back with some corny JJ's shirt 4 me. Back to the Future, Goonies, Superman, Mario, Beer shirts and so and so on

GIBO
16th August 2009, 08:04 PM
With a head like yours shame went out the window years ago:D

daics3522
16th August 2009, 08:13 PM
With a head like yours shame went out the window years ago:D

:lol:lol:lol

spriggy
16th August 2009, 10:02 PM
With a head like yours shame went out the window years ago:D

I'll give ya that one :cool: :D .................................. crab! ;)

So.. kwik update. Sourced some NOS Wico leafs ... and that's it for the major parts.

Probably 1-2 weeks till build time! :cool:

spriggy
19th August 2009, 02:41 PM
Well.. almost time ladies. I'll be out in the shed after this post putting the door lock and finish tiding up wiring on the mates cab.. and that should be it. Get some MDF, a new combination set (as the old ones nackered) and ....... :cool:

So.. about a week ago, I decided to re-evaluate the plans ... AGAIN! :rolleyes ... to make them more like the original. I had furring strips for general construction, as opposed to brackets which the T&F ct used, for ease of building. However .. that's out the window and the original brackets have been designed, with the plans revised this morning over a coffee :cool: I had posted in a few forums for help on measuring the brackets and cuphead bolt positioning.. but no luck. Wade sold his cab.. so no luck there either. Luckily my large horde of Wade and old internet pics has given me excellent reference points against cabinet logistics. I reckon I'm pretty spot on with the brackets and positioning. If anything ... out by sweet FA! Bah! ;)

Won't be able to sort the internal divider panel and coin box area until during build and after monitor positioning.

Game on!!!

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4953/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg/)

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8476/trackfieldcocktailinsid.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/trackfieldcocktailinsid.jpg/)

spriggy
25th August 2009, 01:36 AM
About to start this lovely bitch .. but a kwik "toe in the water" test.

I did quote early on in the thread that .. "Screen-printed CPO's have already been obtained." I should have said .. ordered!!
Well.. Just as I ordered .. Darin literally had 3 or 4 orders in the same week clearing all his stock.... So .. being in trouble .. he held onto mine as collateral.. which is completely understandable. Reasons and logistics aside (for holding my order).. Darin is on to get more CPO's up and running. Legend! :cool:

I'm now thinking of building 2 of these ladies (with original pcb's and screenprinted cpo's) side-by-side and selling 1. I'm not a ****ing thief... so a reasonable fee for my work... and for the love it!

Any locals up for 1?????? :cool:

In the end .. I'm looking at doing 2 anyway. The 2nd one will go I would like to think!!

GIBO
25th August 2009, 05:21 AM
Interested in a trade maybe?:D

spriggy
25th August 2009, 08:47 AM
Interested in a trade maybe?:D

Always a possibilty m8 :) Still looking at the viability of doin 2. Undecided I think .. although tempting

Claude
25th August 2009, 09:27 AM
Don't know you much Spriggy but I get the feeling that if you build two and sell one it would be like a mother/father deciding which one of their twins to adopt out :cry

But don't let that stop you as I'm sure it will go to a good home and you could get visitation rights :lol

Would be awsome to see two of these 'bitches' side by side though.

candyflip
25th August 2009, 11:12 AM
Did you know they have one of these at the Las Vegas Pinball Museum?

I *almost* took a pic of it while there, but figured no-one would be that interested (!!) and I was there mainly for the pins anyway.

spriggy
25th August 2009, 12:25 PM
Don't know you much Spriggy but I get the feeling that if you build two and sell one it would be like a mother/father deciding which one of their twins to adopt out :cry

:D Yeh.. your right. But it would be nice too know another one lives out there somewhere in Oz as well. I would only let it go if I knew the person was gonna keep her ... and not flog her off after 6 months for a profit.


Did you know they have one of these at the Las Vegas Pinball Museum?

I *almost* took a pic of it while there, but figured no-one would be that interested (!!) and I was there mainly for the pins anyway.

Yeh .. one of the boys up at Coinopspace told me bout that one. Cheers :cool:

spriggy
25th August 2009, 09:02 PM
Well .... Looks like I'm now building 2 of these bitches.. after a conversation today. :cool:

As usual .. more lip flapping from me <_< :rolleyes
The cab was deconstructed into it's individual components in Sketchup and ALL dimensioned and printed out... as well as screenshots during deconstruction for placement references. Probably 30 pages of plans and pics <_< Better more then less. Also layed out pieces onto a hypothetical 2400x1200 sheets (in sketchup) for best waste logistics.

Thx to Gibo (and Morrie, if any of this stuff is linked to him) for lovely 20" monitor, shmicko Peter Chou and like new power distributor block .... lined up today. Plus small things like leg levelers etc. Legends of Hairy Beasts! :098:

Now for a day off to grab the mdf and party..... :cool:

DKong
26th August 2009, 02:19 AM
Well .... Looks like I'm now building 2 of these bitches.. after a conversation today. :cool:

As usual .. more lip flapping from me <_< :rolleyes
The cab was deconstructed into it's individual components in Sketchup and ALL dimensioned and printed out... as well as screenshots during deconstruction for placement references. Probably 30 pages of plans and pics <_< Better more then less. Also layed out pieces onto a hypothetical 2400x1200 sheets (in sketchup) for best waste logistics.

Thx to Gibo (and Morrie, if any of this stuff is linked to him) for lovely 20" monitor, shmicko Peter Chou and like new power distributor block .... lined up today. Plus small things like leg levelers etc. Legends of Hairy Beasts! :098:

Now for a day off to grab the mdf and party..... :cool:


Two is that all, hell I want one, as long as comes with a Track and field PCB?? :confused:

Viper
26th August 2009, 07:13 AM
One of my favourite games, although it does look like Konami ripped the cab design off Atari (including the plinth).
http://www.klov.com/images/11/1181242049181.jpg

Either way it's my favourite cocktail design.

spriggy
26th August 2009, 08:28 AM
Sorry Dkong. Only 2. My time management for the hobby is pretty tight with all the 'real life' stuff.. so 2 is the most I'm willing to go.. I chucked the idea out there when I was on the piss.. So not sure if I would have done it sober <_< ;)


One of my favourite games, although it does look like Konami ripped the cab design off Atari (including the plinth).
http://www.klov.com/images/11/1181242049181.jpg

Either way it's my favourite cocktail design.

Always wondered what the go was there. The Atari footballs are different.. not hugley though, but too the naked eye ... you might as well say they are the same.

spriggy
26th August 2009, 11:11 AM
Phew!:blink:
2 cabs ... 3 sheets of 2400x1200 .......... Just! :cool:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4953/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg/)

daics3522
26th August 2009, 11:36 AM
Are you having this CNC'ed or cut yourself...........

AskJacob
26th August 2009, 11:37 AM
Looks like a prime candidate for CNC there!

That is one hell of a cut-list! Let me guess, you are good a tetris too? ;)

Keenly waiting to see this pan out!

Cheers
Jacob

spriggy
26th August 2009, 12:03 PM
Are you having this CNC'ed or cut yourself...........

Self m8. Give the handy 'template bit' a work for its money. :) CNC for 2 cabs not worth spending the $$ I imagine


That is one hell of a cut-list! Let me guess, you are good a tetris too? ;)


:lol

Claude
26th August 2009, 05:09 PM
Self m8. Give the handy 'template bit' a work for its money. :) CNC for 2 cabs not worth spending the $$ I imagine

You might be surprised how cheap it is if you can export your sketchup to DXF's, especially given you've already done the nesting (full sheet layout) for them.

Hopefully one of the local AA members has already got a good cheap source for CNC routing.

I could do it on my CNC router but I'd have to give you a jigsaw puzzle of about 50 pieces given my machine only has a cutting capacity of about 220mm x 550mm :lol

Viper
26th August 2009, 08:41 PM
Any chance you could share the plans if they are in a format easy enough to read? I seriously want to make a mini version of one of these. Cheers.

spriggy
26th August 2009, 09:03 PM
You might be surprised how cheap it is if you can export your sketchup to DXF's, especially given you've already done the nesting (full sheet layout) for them.

Hopefully one of the local AA members has already got a good cheap source for CNC routing.

I could do it on my CNC router but I'd have to give you a jigsaw puzzle of about 50 pieces given my machine only has a cutting capacity of about 220mm x 550mm :lol

The only one I've found so far wants big dollars :rolleyes Hence, turned me off right away. I also heard of one the locals trying someone else for a single cab ... also came with a big quote.
I'm not sure how good Sketchup is at the dxf conversion stage... hence I would need to find someone happy to test things like curves etc. I might have one more look .. but with the tablesaw, router etc, no real issues for me. Might take longer ... but that means more time to have beers as well :D


Any chance you could share the plans if they are in a format easy enough to read? I seriously want to make a mini version of one of these. Cheers.

No worries. Jakobud did up Wade's dims in 2d format, when we were compiling them.. and posted them on his site ( I had them on paper only).
I noticed some errors though when I constructed in Sketchup, plus I was able to calculate a number of others that aren't on his compilation.... plus plenty of small things and parts.

I won't be breaking it down in 2d, like I used to. Means redrawing in DeltaCAD... which I won't be doing. I will just dimension with Sketchup, export and save as jpegs. Let me finish the cabs 1st, so I can be sure everythings ok. Shouldn't be a problem though. I built my 14.5 metre Gable steel Patio in Sketchup, then my 'Boilermaker' Dad and self built it straight from sketchup plans. Zero issues. We were 3mm out in overall length :o Sounds BS .. but true (plus luck I imagine ;) )I was amazed... So Sketchup rocks in accuracy, on medium level stuff like this.

Claude
27th August 2009, 10:14 AM
The only one I've found so far wants big dollars :rolleyes Hence, turned me off right away. I also heard of one the locals trying someone else for a single cab ... also came with a big quote.
I'm not sure how good Sketchup is at the dxf conversion stage... hence I would need to find someone happy to test things like curves etc. I might have one more look .. but with the tablesaw, router etc, no real issues for me. Might take longer ... but that means more time to have beers as well :D

I could cut a scale model for you :)

Do you use sketchup pro or the freebie. I found one or two dxf export freeware for the free version, which doesn't come standard with the dxf export.

spriggy
27th August 2009, 12:02 PM
I could cut a scale model for you :)

Do you use sketchup pro or the freebie. I found one or two dxf export freeware for the free version, which doesn't come standard with the dxf export.

Sketchup Pro. The standard dxf export within Sketchup exports via screen dump (I can't find another way internally). So.. what u see, is what u get. I"m looking at options today for dxf and CNCing the files.

I'd prefer not to give out my plans/files until I'm sure they're correct. I've had experience years ago sending out files early..which had errors .... and it was a pain making changes based on back and fowards hearsay. I just don't have the time for that.
Thx for the offer anyway.

Claude
27th August 2009, 07:20 PM
Understand where you're at. Just throwing out options to try and help you out on this cool project.

I'll keep an eye on it with interest.

Cheers,

Claude

spriggy
27th August 2009, 07:28 PM
Understand where you're at. Just throwing out options to try and help you out on this cool project.

I'll keep an eye on it with interest.

Cheers,

Claude

Cheers. No problems. Found one CNC place today that's proably my only chance of a reasonable price. I also have a new plugin which allows me to convert my Sketchup model (after some flattening etc) to create a .cnc file, Allows for tool bit sizes and everything. BUT .. CNC places I've spoken to here aren't interested. They don't trust anything but their own software and procedures. THey're happy with dxf files ... but in the end... they go over them as well.

We'll see soon enuff. I'm sick of running around after everything and yapping about the project. Just want to start it now!!! <_<

daics3522
27th August 2009, 08:42 PM
I'm sick of running around after everything and yapping about the project. Just want to start it now!!! <_<

HTFU already !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

spriggy
1st September 2009, 07:54 PM
Game on! :066:

No CNC'ing. Stick with my trusty tools. Not cost effective from the dealings I had last week.

So.. last nightshift tonight and onto it tomorrow .. Built a new 2400mm sawboard today with some 12mm I had laying around. My old straight edge guide has seen better days <_<.
Fricken won't have access to the mdf sheets till next week. Trailer not available till then .. so I'm starting on the internal brackets, CP lock-down supports and coin door til then...

spacies
1st September 2009, 08:13 PM
Look forward to seeing some cabs mate :D

spriggy
1st September 2009, 08:39 PM
Look forward to seeing some cabs mate :D

Cheers. So the frick am I!! :rolleyes About time I had the hands do the talking and not my gob <_<

daics3522
1st September 2009, 08:46 PM
About time I had the hands do the talking and not my gob <_<

:lol:lol:lol

spriggy
1st September 2009, 08:55 PM
:lol:lol:lol

What r u laughing at poof!! <_< ... ;)

daics3522
2nd September 2009, 12:03 AM
What r u laughing at poof!! <_< ... ;)

:lol:lol:lol

Sorry mate, its normally me getting the jibs due to the slowness of my projects

narf_
2nd September 2009, 07:58 PM
hmm

cane toads are moving 60kms per year. daics is moving XXhrs per year

ill be invaded by canetoads :lol

spriggy
5th September 2009, 12:25 AM
Wasn't going to post this pissy update ... but .. better put up some proof of work b4 someone puts the boot in :rolleyes

Frustrating not having the trailer till next week.. and no mdf sheets. <_< Regardless .. all 22 construction brackets are cut, drilled and most primed and/or final coated in flat black (11 per cab). Drilling 132 holes is quite exciting <_< Thank god for the pedestal drill.
Did a kwik 'proof of concept' test on the brackets. Not rocket science ... but solid as hell. Main cabinet will come together very kwikly, after cutting, with these babies. Can see why they went down this path in the factory. Also wrapped some of that chalk board black vinyl as a test, from a sample off Gibo'inski. Looks quite good. Might use it for the black areas around the access doors/kickplates. Semi-gloss on cuphead bolts as well. Gloss is too much as can bee seen on pic.

Also moved up from 40tooth to 60t on the circular. See how it goes at cutting time.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3010/bracket1e.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/bracket1e.jpg/)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9158/bracket2.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/i/bracket2.jpg/)

Claude
5th September 2009, 04:01 AM
Any idea what size monitor they used in the original cocktail?

spriggy
5th September 2009, 11:41 AM
any idea what size monitor they used in the original cocktail?

19"

spriggy
7th September 2009, 02:53 PM
On a stretch of arvo's @ work ... so struggling to find some decent time to play. Found an hour here and there to hit my cruddy 'Coin Controls' coin door and mechs. <_< One mech's done and main door has 1st topcoat.
Typical coin door resto method. For those interested......
Wire brush the bitch, 600wet, then 1200wet, then 2-3 coats of good etch primer to hide any 20+ year old imperfections (3 for this one). Final 2 or 3 top coats of good 'Black Satin' epoxy enamel.
For the Coin mechs. 20% C.L.R. / 80% hot water mix to clean the mechs. Hair Dryer to dry, then hit with Brasso for protection and bling. Mechs were not pretty. Came up alright considering.
Just need to prep and paint the c/d frame and done. Don't think the reject buttons will be saveable.. hence will be replaced.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9486/crudydoorweb.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/i/crudydoorweb.jpg/)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/33/cdpaintedweb.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/cdpaintedweb.jpg/)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7628/coinmechscleanweb.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/coinmechscleanweb.jpg/)

spacies
7th September 2009, 03:36 PM
This might turn into a DM length build :lol

spriggy
7th September 2009, 04:07 PM
This might turn into a DM length build :lol

:rolleyes Yeh Yeh .. I gather I deserved that :rolleyes ... but just one thing m8... Excuse my ignorance and maybe my brains in neutral ... but WTF are you on about? :confused: :cool:

Wob
7th September 2009, 04:14 PM
Hey Spriggy,

I think it's looking good :) How does the paint hold up compared to powder coating?

Cheers,
Beau

AskJacob
7th September 2009, 05:04 PM
:rolleyes Yeh Yeh .. I gather I deserved that :rolleyes ... but just one thing m8... Excuse my ignorance and maybe my brains in neutral ... but WTF are you on about? :confused: :cool:

Methinks a stab at member dmworking247 - or is that a stab at you...

:P

dezbaz
7th September 2009, 06:05 PM
DM is perfectionist No1, Woolongong, many projects

Spriggy is No2

No offense spriggy, I just mean he was here first

spriggy
7th September 2009, 06:34 PM
Hah .. I'll take that as a compliment then.... i think ;)
Spacies my boy... you can still LMB though :D

Anway.. Wob. Powdercoating is obviously pretty darn tuff. I don't waste my time though unless a few things need doing.

The Epoxy Enamel Spray Cans are gr8 for smaller jobs, brackets etc. They are however almost double the price @ $13-14 a pop. Tuffer finish for sure. 16 hours between coats instead of the standard 1-2 for std Enamel cans. A Can still goes quite a way though. I have a lowboy cp done about 7 years ago (now in my brothers gamesroom) that still has it's original epoxy on it, and still going well. Each to their own.

Wob
7th September 2009, 09:06 PM
Cool, I will keep it in mind, I am not having much luck finding a reasonable powdercoating price.

DKong
7th September 2009, 09:25 PM
A coin door is not going to get the wear a control panel gets with HUO, (maybe if it was sited ) so I wouldn't bother with powder coating unless you were getting a few parts done.

When you source some coindoor inserts let me know I need the same for my PINBOT pinball coindoor , the covers and the coin slot part :)

spriggy
7th September 2009, 09:39 PM
A coin door is not going to get the wear a control panel gets with HUO, (maybe if it was sited ) so I wouldn't bother with powder coating unless you were getting a few parts done.

When you source some coindoor inserts let me know I need the same for my PINBOT pinball coindoor , the covers and the coin slot part :)

Dkong is spot on. Home use will unlikely give you issues, if you follow the path I took.

Dk. Do you mean 20c/25c decal inserts? If I can't find any.. I'll just vector my ones.
As for parts ( if that's what you mean by covers and coin slot part), I found a handfull of places with new parts for my CC door. I'll be using Lizard Lick cause I'm getting other stuff from them. http://www.lizardlick.com//pages/coin_doors_parts.shtml

narf_
10th September 2009, 10:24 PM
do a bulk order of powdercoat with other perthes

too cheap sir that way

spriggy
21st September 2009, 09:05 PM
Well .. today blade touched wood :cool: Shocking weather ... with the old horizontal rain trying to ruin my day in the early arvo <_< But I won. :D Slowed me down a bit.. but still a constructive 1st day. Nice to play with ALL the tools again after all these years off :066: Especially the old router and template bit. The new 60-tooth on the circular kicked ass. Noticably better then the 40t

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3056/templateside.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/templateside.jpg/)
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1017/bitsi.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/bitsi.jpg/)
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8661/constr1.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/constr1.jpg/)
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1296/constr2.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/constr2.jpg/)
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7610/constr3.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/constr3.jpg/)

daics3522
21st September 2009, 09:36 PM
and the starters gun goes off.............. BANG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and their off and racing..................

Good start sprigman

dezbaz
21st September 2009, 10:00 PM
Good on ya mate

Is that 16mm or 12mm? looks are deceiving I think, I guess 16mm thick

spriggy
21st September 2009, 10:02 PM
Good on ya mate

Is that 16mm or 12mm? looks are deceiving I think, I guess 16mm thick

18mm. Original is 3/4" (19.05mm )

DKong
22nd September 2009, 08:36 AM
Taking shape, or is that getting into to shape:laugh: for a T & F
Always wondered about the metal "L" brackets, would they be strong enough for an upright as well.? Are they better than using wood bracing?
(I'm no carpenter BTW :laugh:)

Keep the pics coming :)

Brad
22nd September 2009, 08:40 AM
Taking shape, or is that getting into to shape:laugh: for a T & F
Always wondered about the metal "L" brackets, would they be strong enough for an upright as well.? Are they better than using wood bracing?
(I'm no carpenter BTW :laugh:)

Keep the pics coming :)

Thats the first thing I thought. I'm definitely no carpenter as most would testify seeing my woodwork but I would have thought timber battens, glued and screwed would be 100 times stronger. Those brackets would not take to being moved around much I reckon given the stress points. Especially with MDF!

Brad

spriggy
22nd September 2009, 09:39 AM
Like the original, the brackets are rock solid 3mm thick.. so they won't be moving themselves anywhere soon (mine are from 3mm angle iron). Each bracket is connected to panels via 2 30x3mm screws (per bracket leg) and a 6mm cuphead bolt (per leg. The bolts aren't in yet). It feels damn solid. I too have been questioning how it will hold up. I asked Wade if it appeared to have been glued, as well, when he pulled his one apart, and he said no. I"m going to glue mine for piece of mind, at final stage.
Knowing how much these machines get a hammering from button mashing, I'd like to think this construction setup must have held up alright.

Brad
22nd September 2009, 09:52 AM
I hope your right as your attention to detail has been amazing and I'm looking forward to the finished product =)

Brad

dizamo
22nd September 2009, 10:42 AM
Nice to see some action and looking good so far. Should be ready for the boys on the 17th right...:lol

spriggy
29th September 2009, 11:36 AM
Kwik update.
Back working on the bitch tomorrow (a few hours a day in the arvo's, b4 I piss off to nightshift). A fortnight on nightshifts (with a bit of OT) is good for the wallet ... but sucks to get things done <_< Plus had a scary logistics problem with the CPO artwork, putting the job on hold. All is good, based on an email received this morning... thank f%#k... so game back on! :)

Also, decided to add some neat shortish furring strips in between the brackets for piece of mind. A few lads have questioned the machines stability without. Even though this is factory built this way, better to be safe than sorry. Especially if I want years of stability, as opposed to a only few years of life that the Konami factory would have put on their cabs... especially a button mashing T&F. (as was suggested to me by Gibo in a recent convo. Good point m8!)

Brad
29th September 2009, 03:12 PM
Nice work. I'd prefer to see somehting this nice rock solid, especially button mashing after a few brews ;)

Brad

Wob
29th September 2009, 03:50 PM
I had a bash at Track&Field with a few mates after a few brews the other night, made me remember how bad I am at this game. I really suck at the hurdles ;)

Beau

spriggy
29th September 2009, 04:20 PM
Nice work. I'd prefer to see somehting this nice rock solid, especially button mashing after a few brews ;)

BradI'll probably keep my one at factory spec, as I'm really curious on how she holds up as is. Can add the strips later at any sign of sloppyiness. I'll definately put the furring strips on the other one that will be going out the door, for a bit of insurance and give the customer peace of mind :cool:


I had a bash at Track&Field with a few mates after a few brews the other night, made me remember how bad I am at this game. I really suck at the hurdles ;)

Beau

Yeh ... such a classic .. and has gr8 replay value in a home collection. I've been a regular player on the ole mame cab for years ... but only recently learnt how to play properly WITHOUT mashing. I used to use the old Karate chop mash, but I now use the infamous 'alternate double-flap' on both run buttons. My timing is now spot-on and I'm slowly getting faster. Very consistent under-9sec 100m, 9m+ Long Jump. 80+ metre Jav, 2.42m+ High Jump (2.46 record). Highly recommended technique. No sore hands or fingers. Fingertips start getting a little sensative after about 2 hours of constant play.

Wob
29th September 2009, 04:51 PM
Yeh ... such a classic .. and has gr8 replay value in a home collection. I've been a regular player on the ole mame cab for years ... but only recently learnt how to play properly WITHOUT mashing. I used to use the old Karate chop mash, but I now use the infamous 'alternate double-flap' on both run buttons. My timing is now spot-on and I'm slowly getting faster. Very consistent under-9sec 100m, 9m+ Long Jump. 80+ metre Jav, 2.42m+ High Jump (2.46 record). Highly recommended technique. No sore hands or fingers. Fingertips start getting a little sensative after about 2 hours of constant play.

Sounds good, can you explain or provide a link to said technique? :)

spriggy
29th September 2009, 05:55 PM
Sounds good, can you explain or provide a link to said technique? :)

I'm @ work.. so no youtube to check. The last time I heard/saw anything about the double-flap was on the movie 'Chasing Ghosts'. Was popular on Joust (hence the 'flap') and then moved over to T&F when it arrived. Imagine laying your hand flat on the table, and flapping you index and middle finger alternately. That's it. I use a modified version where my fingers are bent and the tips of my fingers run alternatively over-top of the button head (left 2 fingers..right 2 finger..left 2 fingers etc) I rest the tips of my thumb on the panel to hold my hand up (looks like your going to 'Liberace' some piano keys :rolleyes) If you don't get the alternate rythm right.. forget it.
Here endth the lesson :rolleyes

Mickey Juice
29th September 2009, 11:16 PM
Is it like this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMoPXZvPEIg

spriggy
30th September 2009, 01:16 AM
I wish.;)
That's Hector Rodriguez.. the new World Record Holder on T&F, as of early this year.

Here's him breaking the 24 year old record!! Legendary!! ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HJqEBVfvXs

DKong
30th September 2009, 01:39 AM
I wish.;)
That's Hector Rodriguez.. the new World Record Holder on T&F, as of early this year.

Here's him breaking the 24 year old record!! Legendary!! ... YouTube - Track &amp; Field Arcade World Record (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HJqEBVfvXs)

That was quite breathtakingly f4ck@ng awesome. Was thinking maybe that guy should learn guitar but then thought:o that was better. How quick were those fingers :o:o:o

spriggy
30th September 2009, 08:05 PM
Missus has a fractured hand.. so I was wearing the maids outfit and cleaning wand after I woke up to help out <_<<_<<_< Still able to put in a couple of hours b4 work tonight though..
Cut a few more pieces and routed a speaker grill template. The grill slots are 1/4", which made it easier.. and just used a 1/4" straight bit and guides to make the 3 slot-set template. Then the ole' template bit to cut all 4 grills.
Decided to do the extendable base after the main cab is finished. Then it can be used in the std sit-down profile, whilst I make the base(s).

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1627/grilltemplate1.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/grilltemplate1.jpg/)
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7453/grills2.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/grills2.jpg/)
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4336/grills1.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/grills1.jpg/)
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4246/constr4.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/constr4.jpg/)

dizamo
30th September 2009, 08:09 PM
looking good mate, im assuming the first ones gibo's and you will have the other ready for the boys day?:laugh:

Mickey Juice
30th September 2009, 08:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciOM2daxIe4

spriggy
30th September 2009, 08:56 PM
....and you will have the other ready for the boys day?:laugh:
Do they have reality on your planet?:blink: I don't think so crab.

on a side note .. WOO HOO. Just got my highest score on T&F (Twin Galaxies official settings/rules) 82,750. Nice way to end the day :cool:

narf_
30th September 2009, 09:01 PM
i could do the double finger tap on the italian cabinet leafs

problem is it doesnt work on regular buttons as well :lol

since i had the leafs im a fan of em. regular micros just dont do it any more for me

looking good progress mate. At least this cabinet is quicker than boat_cade :laugh:

spriggy
30th September 2009, 09:04 PM
since i had the leafs im a fan of em. regular micros just dont do it any more for me

Never played T&F on leafs. Can't wait to use them, after hearing/reading about how much better they play. I'm hoping to break the sub 8.5sec 100m (currently 8.70).

GIBO
30th September 2009, 10:12 PM
Looking good mate,best I start rustling up some parts

narf_
30th September 2009, 10:36 PM
np mate

i found the leafs were perfect for shooters too. double fingers on a single button are champ material for 1942

spriggy
30th September 2009, 10:47 PM
Looking good mate,best I start rustling up some parts
:cool: Damo let the cat outta da bag ;)

Yeh .. I'll let ya know when I need the monitor and coin door for yours. I"m within 1mm for the internal width (good for the cps) and within 0.5-1mm for the access door, based on the sketchup dimensons :cool: ... so things are going well and I seem to have settled back into the tools ok. This one will probably be yours m8. 1st cab off the rank :cool:

narf_
1st October 2009, 08:14 PM
nice

i heard you building 2 a while ago

us WA boys seem to know everyone elses doings :laugh:

dezbaz
1st October 2009, 09:32 PM
Lets start another rumour

Spriggy is making one for each of the WA boys

you didn't hear it from me



NAH just kiddin everyone,
nice work on the vents Spriggy

spriggy
1st October 2009, 10:11 PM
You fricken clowns! :rolleyes;)

narf_
2nd October 2009, 05:56 PM
lol

so when do we pick them up then :unsure

spriggy
2nd October 2009, 06:23 PM
lol

so when do we pick them up then :unsure

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6107/lickmyballs.gif (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/lickmyballs.gif/)

Anyway .. no hands-on-time for he cab today, but sorting a few parts instead in the short time I have. Currently following up the laser cut exact replica bezels, nos wico leaf buttons and finalising payment on the long awaited screenprinted CPO's :rolleyes

narf_
2nd October 2009, 06:42 PM
lol

that reminds me i got gibos leaf switches to grab tommorow too

dizamo
2nd October 2009, 07:06 PM
I got mine yesterday, spriggy is hooking up all the WA boys I here, dont know if its true but I heard it from a very very very very unreliable source:lol

Shave your hairy balls and you might just get a lick!!!!!!!!!!:laugh:

spriggy
3rd October 2009, 07:33 PM
Got another 2 hours in today. Sorted the control panel and bezel/glass supports. Was originally designed as a single piece, but I've made it 3. The 2 CP supports and the bezel/glass support. This allows for easier adjustment if I need to move it around a mil or 2.
After a slight push from Gibo ;), now using a single piece of tinted 6mm tempered glass (beveled) as opposed to the original clear glass and separate piece of thin tinted plexi. Easier to clean and neater.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2756/constr5.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/constr5.jpg/)

tommysbuilders
7th October 2009, 11:02 PM
Nice Job. I am just completing a full resto on my cocktail and I had to rebuild my riser base not a useable piece except for brackets. I found that the upper and lower narrow boards the ones the leg levelers mount on and the ones that the machine sit on are a weak link the machine is too heavy and they bow. Just some food for thought. I used a complete piece of wood and drilled a 6 in. hole in the center to get inside it.
The origional coin door is actually a Casting, pot metal assy. If you did'ent already know.
Cheers.

spriggy
7th October 2009, 11:15 PM
Cheers for the info m8. I gather your from the US ... or you imported one of these babies to OZ / NZ? I'm still unaware of ANY originals of these down here.

spriggy
8th October 2009, 02:51 PM
Just a kwik tip on router stop end guides for anyone interested or unware of this simple method.

Get yourself some Double Sided Carpet Tape. Strong stuff. @ Bunnings etc. When your setting up guide stop ends to route out simple squares/rectangles striaght cuts etc ... and your outta clamps or in areas clamps won't reach ... slap on some of this tape to the guide. Just make sure the area has been cleaned down with shellite or similar products first .. (obviously duh <_<)
As can be seen on the 1st pic .. I'm pressing down on the end of the guide which has the DS tape. I'm adding quiet a bit of pressure.. and noticeably bending the wood. Stuck like fricken glue. But not enuff to tear off some of the wood face when removed. Removes clean from mdf. (Never used it on other woods personally)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9529/guides1.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/guides1.jpg/)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7168/guides2.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/guides2.jpg/)
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9970/constr6.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/i/constr6.jpg/)

narf_
8th October 2009, 05:39 PM
there used to be rare cabs down bunbury

tempest cocktails,atari sprint 8 (the massive 8 player) and alot more dedicated

they went the landfill in the 90's straight of the truck into a crater. the 100 pinballs had a better fate of being left in the bush to rot :(

daics3522
8th October 2009, 06:57 PM
there used to be rare cabs down bunbury

tempest cocktails,atari sprint 8 (the massive 8 player) and alot more dedicated

they went the landfill in the 90's straight of the truck into a crater. the 100 pinballs had a better fate of being left in the bush to rot :(

Have you find where in the bush they were left yet??

narf_
8th October 2009, 06:59 PM
yea mate

sadly i sold the remaining side rails for scrap metal ($12) and the ground has 100's of dead globes :cry

spriggy
8th October 2009, 07:46 PM
there used to be rare cabs down bunbury

tempest cocktails,atari sprint 8 (the massive 8 player) and alot more dedicated

they went the landfill in the 90's straight of the truck into a crater. the 100 pinballs had a better fate of being left in the bush to rot :(

Sprint 8 :o Wow. Never knew that monster made it to OZ.

narf_
8th October 2009, 07:58 PM
yeah mate

sadly somewhere i have its keys to the access door and coinbox :cry

all that remains is a taito space invaders from that collection :( it was rescued from being shoved down a 20 m drop :)

dizamo
8th October 2009, 09:44 PM
less talk more work brother, gibos expecting it soon!

Seriously tho, its looking mint, your good with the wood!

Not that wood Mrs Sprigg:lol

spriggy
8th October 2009, 09:58 PM
less talk more work brother, gibos expecting it soon!

Seriously tho, its looking mint, your good with the wood!

Not that wood Mrs Sprigg:lol

If you bastards stop talking too me .. then maybe I can you poof!! <_<

The last few weeks rosters has been shithouse ... but .. the odd hour or 2 here and there still add up ok on the project. On leave soon (for 3 weeks) .. so that'l help 10-fold. :cool:

spriggy
22nd October 2009, 11:12 PM
Things have been quiet on the project front. Flat-out with other work and home shit. But... on leave now for 3 weeks .. so I'll inject a few days here and there to get her closer to the end.

Both sets of CPO's arrived today. BEAUTIFUL :D Screenprinted stuff is the dux nuts!!! The photo does absolutely zero justice to the quality!!

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3188/cpos.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/cpos.jpg/)

daics3522
22nd October 2009, 11:16 PM
Things have been quiet on the project front. Flat-out with other work and home shit. But... on leave now for 3 weeks .. so I'll inject a few days here and there to get her closer to the end.
Both sets of CPO's arrived today. BEAUTIFUL :D Screenprinted stuff is the dux nuts!!! The photo does absolutely zero justice to the quality!!
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3188/cpos.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/cpos.jpg/)

That ink on those CP's is liquid GOLD hey Sprigman!!, but they do look might nice........

spriggy
22nd October 2009, 11:31 PM
A long story on tracking down these CPO's ... as Darin is out of stock and not re-doing them now. These ones I tracked down, with Darins help, were from the first original repro batch done around 2002-2003(not by Darin). I was very lucky. Cost me alot less than expected.

narf_
24th October 2009, 07:13 PM
can i ask why does the cocktail look like a kitchen

ikea mame :lol

spriggy
24th October 2009, 09:14 PM
can i ask why does the cocktail look like a kitchen

ikea mame :lol

I don't think many woman will be playing it m8 ;) .... oh ... maybe you!! :cool:

narf_
24th October 2009, 10:41 PM
gotta see a finished product first

cant play on bits of wood and decals :cool:

spriggy
24th October 2009, 11:46 PM
gotta see a finished product first

cant play on bits of wood and decals :cool:

Touche! :D

narf_
24th October 2009, 11:53 PM
:lol

i had a boatcade moment earlier :lol

spacies
25th October 2009, 07:11 AM
Less chit chat, more hammer and nails please.

spriggy
25th October 2009, 01:11 PM
Less chit chat, more hammer and nails please.

Yes Obi Wan :D Hitting her up tomorrow after 2 weeks of squat <_< Getting pissed (surprise surprise) on Dad's 60'th today. MMMMM Smorgasboard and Beer :066:

tommysbuilders
26th October 2009, 10:36 PM
:unsure
A long story on tracking down these CPO's ... as Darin is out of stock and not re-doing them now. These ones I tracked down, with Darins help, were from the first original repro batch done around 2002-2003(not by Darin). I was very lucky. Cost me alot less than expected.:x

I got the last one that Darin had after he found the two sets for you.
Mine are made of the with the Liquid Gold Ink. :p
If you need any measurments for the inside coin box area or anything else let me know.
After looking at the top of the bottom riser I think the box was meant to have the leg levelers installed in the top cabinet also, puts most of the weight on the edges.
Oh yes, I am in the US
Cheers

spriggy
26th October 2009, 11:51 PM
:unsure

I got the last one that Darin had after he found the two sets for you.
Mine are made of the with the Liquid Gold Ink. :p
If you need any measurments for the inside coin box area or anything else let me know.
After looking at the top of the bottom riser I think the box was meant to have the leg levelers installed in the top cabinet also, puts most of the weight on the edges.
Oh yes, I am in the US
Cheers

Cheers m8, I should be fine with what I've got. But i'll hit u up if I hit any walls. Thanks. Ahh ... u got that last one :D Cool.

narf_
29th October 2009, 07:28 AM
so will you wrap gibos in xmas paper and he gets to put it under a AA tree :unsure


http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/sexy-santa-helpers-34.jpg

if santas little helpers drop it off ill gladly help them put it under his xmas tree :lol

spriggy
29th October 2009, 08:59 PM
so will you wrap gibos in xmas paper and he gets to put it under a AA tree :unsure


:rolleyes:
Nice pic :o I'd mash those buttons! :cool:

I reckon Gib will safely have his b4 Chrissy. The bastard won't get it wrapped though :098:The main cab construction is done and assembled. Leg levelers, wingnut'd brackets etc also done. Been putting the main bracket cuphead bolts on this late arvo. Prob get the coin door and cabinet fan test mounted and final cab adjustment Saturday (wedding tomorrow :035:) Will sort out the Control Panels Monday. Will make up a CPO replica template to go to the sheet metal shop to help punch the button holes accurately. Prok (gamestencils.com) had to put in a re-order on his bezel material.. so I'm still waiting on them. Can't cut and mount the monitor till I sit those replica bezels in. Once the CPs are done and fitted (piano hinged) .. I'll start dismantling and router trace all the mdf for my cab. I'll then finish Gibs off with the Laminex 'Palisander Natural Finish' laminate on the sides, Atari style vinyl on the cab ends and matching black enamel on the other relevant panels.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8388/wingnutmount.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/wingnutmount.jpg/)

narf_
29th October 2009, 09:02 PM
what size bezel

if its a 20 inch proper arcade one i can get one local and just dump the rest of the cab

spriggy
29th October 2009, 09:08 PM
what size bezel

if its a 20 inch proper arcade one i can get one local and just dump the rest of the cab

Cheers 4 the offer m8 ... but I'm sticking to the exact replica laser cut bezels. Quite different to the ones around the local traps.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9336/bezel.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/bezel.jpg/)

narf_
29th October 2009, 09:14 PM
np

we understand your abiltilty of "originality" and quite enjoy :cool:

gibo better order a travel adaptor to match the original US plug then :lol

spriggy
29th October 2009, 11:28 PM
np

we understand your abiltilty of "originality" and quite enjoy :cool:

gibo better order a travel adaptor to match the original US plug then :lol

I'm not going crazy original .. else I would have bought all the brackets etc as well ;) I've used some sensible poetic license (eg like the brackets in the last pic. God bless Bunnings!)

DKong
29th October 2009, 11:33 PM
I'm not going crazy original .. else I would have bought all the brackets etc as well ;) I've used some sensible poetic license (eg like the brackets in the last pic. God bless Bunnings!)


So it's not a full on reproduction then :unsure just a shell :unsure

spriggy
29th October 2009, 11:46 PM
So it's not a full on reproduction then :unsure just a shell :unsure

Well .. if you want to call changing the way an internal bracket looks compared to the original (as aforementioned. eg Compare the last pic with my wingnut'd bracket to the bracket on the last bezel pic) .. then no ... it's not identicle in every way. The monitor won't be the same brand obviously. The way the PCB is mounted won't be the same (couldnt find an original cage). The Coin box will be different (not paying $50us shipping on a $5 item) etc. Balance of finding the parts, cost and sensible logistics.

DKong
30th October 2009, 12:24 AM
Hey no need to get pedantic, just sifting through the pages of the build, thought from start it was going to be original etc.

GIBO
30th October 2009, 12:37 AM
Looking good mate,uuummmm dont know where I will put it if its ready before Xmas running out of sea containers fast:cry

spriggy
30th October 2009, 12:47 AM
Hey no need to get pedantic, just sifting through the pages of the build, thought from start it was going to be original etc.

Hey DK ... Definately don't have any knives out m8 :cool: Just outlining some differences. Can see how u may have read otherwise. I'll blame the empty beer bottles I have next to me. These 3 weeks holidays are really emptying the beer fridge kwikly!!

tommysbuilders
30th October 2009, 04:45 AM
Cheers 4 the offer m8 ... but I'm sticking to the exact replica laser cut bezels. Quite different to the ones around the local traps.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9336/bezel.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/bezel.jpg/)

The problem with the origional bezel is the four outer corners leave a square opening which you can see with the plexi & glass on. The control panels do not cover them up. I did not notice it at first when I made the new bezel. I guess it will take a six pack to do another one.

spriggy
30th October 2009, 03:11 PM
Cheers 4 the tip tommy.

Got a few hours in this morning b4 pissing off to the wedding ... :cool:
Note: Gibo's using a single slotter coindoor on his cab. I'll stick with my restored 2 slotter. Also, I'll leave the mounting of the other CP support until the bezels arrive.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/89/constr8.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/i/constr8.jpg/)
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7167/constr7.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/constr7.jpg/)

daics3522
30th October 2009, 03:14 PM
Looks good sprigman............................

narf_
30th October 2009, 05:56 PM
looks good

was only joking with the plug mate me and gibo still laugh about the original wire colours

hmm more room in a sea container. ill be there if its sale time

the 15in1 will need a home soon

GIBO
30th October 2009, 08:39 PM
looks good

was only joking with the plug mate me and gibo still laugh about the original wire colours

hmm more room in a sea container. ill be there if its sale time

the 15in1 will need a home soon

to late for any sales know ,its all packed tightly in the sea containers and everybody elses shed's

prktkljokr
30th October 2009, 08:53 PM
the 15in1 will need a home soon

Stop selling them and you wont have this problem :lol

daics3522
30th October 2009, 08:56 PM
Stop selling them and you wont have this problem :lol

:lol:lol

narf_
30th October 2009, 09:02 PM
np mate

gotta sell atm mate to fund the gear i need to move out. still got some gear just not suitable atm.

i bought a fridge but it died the next day and the seller wont respond to my calls :realmad:

i could gut the neo and make it a multi :lol. Plus it looks like im going in a unit so big cabs will be a tight fit and i aint selling the pinnie :realmad:

prktkljokr
30th October 2009, 09:05 PM
I have some room in my shed :cool: , and some cabs that need pcb's :cool:

I could roll out the ruck sack for ya Narf :) long drive to work though, you might need to apply for a transfer

narf_
30th October 2009, 09:09 PM
shes cool mate

ive got a plan B cabinet in the shed to suit anyways :)

plus my farken car set me back $500 this week so hence the shit has to go atm

spriggy
31st October 2009, 01:53 AM
looks good

was only joking with the plug mate me and gibo still laugh about the original wire colours

:rolleyes Yeh Yeh. Wire colors. Funny poofters!!!

Yes.. and all of Gib's and Morrie's hoard are snuggled away. We nearly destroyed a few cabs moving the bastards. 2-up Daytona came quite close to dieing during the move!!!!!

spacies
31st October 2009, 02:51 AM
np mate

gotta sell atm mate to fund the gear i need....

You gotta sell ass-to-mouth to fund your arcade machines???
Now thats what I call dedication!

:lol :lol :lol

spriggy
31st October 2009, 10:15 AM
You gotta sell ass-to-mouth to fund your arcade machines???
Now thats what I call dedication!

:lol :lol :lol

:lol :a2m: :lol

narf_
31st October 2009, 01:08 PM
no no no

fark that.

Hoopstar
10th November 2009, 09:26 PM
Well .. if you want to call changing the way an internal bracket looks compared to the original (as aforementioned. eg Compare the last pic with my wingnut'd bracket to the bracket on the last bezel pic) .. then no ... it's not identicle in every way. The monitor won't be the same brand obviously. The way the PCB is mounted won't be the same (couldnt find an original cage). The Coin box will be different (not paying $50us shipping on a $5 item) etc. Balance of finding the parts, cost and sensible logistics.
Not being rude, but it's probably not really a "replica" then... more of a close copy.


Hoops

spriggy
10th November 2009, 09:41 PM
Not being rude, but it's probably not really a "replica" then... more of a close copy.

Hoops

Your not being rude m8. You entitled to your opinion. :cool: There is always that line you might cross that may change it from a 'replica' to a 'similar'. It get's to the point where you make that decision, do I wait another 12 months to source parts like original pcb cage, coin door, cp hinge .. or do I add same concept poetic license? Do I wait another 12 months to find someone to help me on a 4 inch bracket or fiddly hidden dimensions etc ?

I'm still a happy camper ;) Maybe I should change the title to 'Track and Field Cocktail Similar' ;) :cool:

Hoopstar
11th November 2009, 07:53 AM
Your not being rude m8. You entitled to your opinion. :cool: There is always that line you might cross that may change it from a 'replica' to a 'similar'. It get's to the point where you make that decision, do I wait another 12 months to source parts like original pcb cage, coin door, cp hinge .. or do I add same concept poetic license? Do I wait another 12 months to find someone to help me on a 4 inch bracket or fiddly hidden dimensions etc ?

I'm still a happy camper ;) Maybe I should change the title to 'Track and Field Cocktail Similar' ;) :cool:
Heehee.. totally understand your thinking spriggy..

My Centipede "scratch build" had a lot of poetic licensing and while it looks fantastic, I really wished I'd stuck closer to the original design. When I did my Galaga replica I sourced ever single bracket, loom, switch etc from original cabs down to the little nails that hold the Namco plate on the back - it took forever to get down to this kind of detail and to be honest, no one else apart from me could care less or know the difference..

Either way, I think you're doing a fantastic job - T n' F cocktail was a cabinet that I always wanted to scratch build..


Hoops

spriggy
11th November 2009, 11:41 AM
Yeh ... I had the mentality of complete replica when I revived this project. I still get shit from Gib when I was trying to track down wiring loom individual colors! :rolleyes Unfort, I've never come across a parted out T&F in 4 years .. and then hit a wall on some small pieces and dimensions, even though I posted on multiple forums. One of the lads put his hand up for the brackets, but by then, I'd already done them and had the cabinet close to it's current state.
And as you'd know, even when someone measures their cabinet for you, they only have to be 1/8" out and that can throw shit outta wack, so unwanted small modifications can start at the early plan stages.
IMO, the only realistic way to replicate a classic, is too have direct access to one personally that you can reference and reverse engineer live. You Galaga is an acception, but the logistics sounded like a horror show. And that's a common cab. :blink:
Cheers for the comments

spacies
11th November 2009, 11:48 AM
I make them look like an original. Only you and me will know that it is completely different but Joe Bloggs don't know shit.

So Spriggy, its all about personal satisfaction and I can tell that you care. Do it once and do it right if it is a keeper mate.

Looking forward to more pics :D

spriggy
11th November 2009, 03:31 PM
Do it once and do it right if it is a keeper mate.

****en oath :066:

spriggy
24th November 2009, 03:55 PM
3 Weeks of squat <_<

Brian ended up getting the re-stock bezel material from the supplier and sorted out the rest of my order within 24 hours of the re-stock. A Legend as usual ;) However I ordered one of his new kick-ass T-shirts .. but the first load only arrived Friday .. so more delays so I could keep my shipping costs down and keep everything together. My choice. Shit happens... alls good.

Ordered the $300-odd worth of the NOS leaf buttons & holders as well (was waiting for some coin door parts. $56us shipping) OUCH! :o:blink: Enuff for both cabs.

Waiting ... Waiting ... Waiting

narf_
24th November 2009, 04:20 PM
Waiting ... Waiting ... Waiting

aint we all :lol

spriggy
30th December 2009, 08:20 PM
<_< 2 Months of pretty much SFA!! :realmad: Some delay issues with parts aquirement.. or the lack of :( (which I won't go into) Hence, changed some logistics Monday and now back on path.

Monitor mounting, bezel construction and sorting out the CP metalwork is next.

Thanks to neondr up at KLOV for giving me some scans of the hard to find, duel underglass sticker artwork. Both different .. one on either end. They need some serious Photoshopping.. but they're still gr8 so thumbs up to him :cool: I've got one cleaned-up today and will work on the other on nightshift 2nite.

Game on! :rolleyes :)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6443/stickerplacement.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/stickerplacement.jpg/)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1503/sticker1comparison.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/sticker1comparison.jpg/)

narf_
30th December 2009, 08:59 PM
know the feeling mate.

taken me 3 months to drag a frame to lift the donk in my car. only had to go 50m :(

dezbaz
30th December 2009, 09:25 PM
Good one Spriggy

Looking very good

dizamo
30th December 2009, 09:50 PM
tap tap tap tap................................thats gibo's foot waiting on the t and f.:laugh:

Buy a pinny and you wouldnt have these problems!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Your 2 behind me, bout time you catch up:p

spriggy
31st December 2009, 03:34 AM
.. 2nd sticker done.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1056/sticker2comparison.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/i/sticker2comparison.jpg/)

daics3522
31st December 2009, 12:31 PM
.. 2nd sticker done.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1056/sticker2comparison.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/i/sticker2comparison.jpg/)

Good work Sprigman

DKong
31st December 2009, 04:26 PM
Looking forward to the cab pic's now, never seen a dedicated Track and Field, one Arcade game that will stand the test of time as fun multi-player.
:023:

dezbaz
1st January 2010, 02:07 PM
Looking forward to the cab pic's now, never seen a dedicated Track and Field, one Arcade game that will stand the test of time as fun multi-player.
:023:

Last time I saw one was in canberra - Navy Base

Sailors had a cam attachment to put in a drill to push the buttons faster.

They wore a groove in all the buttons LOL :lol:lol:lol:lol:laugh:

Next to it was a Crazy kong sit down too, where I got my high score of 238340 (Sorry for trivia highjack LOL)

narf_
17th January 2010, 11:46 PM
how this going spriggy

gibo isnt getting any younger. hope he has kids soon so they can recieve it :lol

prktkljokr
17th January 2010, 11:48 PM
Kids?, I dont think he will let them play with his toys:lol

narf_
18th January 2010, 12:11 AM
:lol

kids or little slaves

dezbaz
18th January 2010, 12:14 AM
reminds me of an episode of Family Guy :lol

spriggy
18th January 2010, 01:38 AM
how this going spriggy

gibo isnt getting any younger. hope he has kids soon so they can recieve it :lol

Not to bad. :boring: Been frustrating.
The 'problem' I pertained too a few posts ago .. ironed itself out a few days ago .. a day before I was going to start to make the bezels myself and mount the monitor. Gibo's aware of the issues. Have ta wait til these bloody bezels arrive b4 the monitor goes in. But it's only a half day job when it does.

Finished off some small things, internal divider panel, made a sample Control Panel (5 inches wide) outta some 16 gauge sheet to make a template for the Sheet Metal Shop to work off. Also made a template for the button holes that'l also go to the Sheet Shop.

Learnt my lesson. Make sure you have ALL your parts b4 you start!!!!

narf_
18th January 2010, 01:40 AM
ahh yeah

was talking to gibo about them on the w.e

GIBO
18th January 2010, 07:14 AM
ahh yeah

was talking to gibo about them on the w.e

Hey dont bring me in on this,Im happy to wait,at least till the sheds up

narf_
18th January 2010, 09:48 AM
not mate

just when we chatted about it got me thinking of progress.

im intrigued as to what it will look like finished

still cant find me leaf buttons. i got 20 odd somewhere here

wonder1
18th January 2010, 10:11 AM
You can store it at my place untill the shed up if need be Gibo:)

narf_
18th January 2010, 10:12 AM
i got heaps of space in the back paddock. the grass protects things really well :(

spriggy
18th January 2010, 06:05 PM
If I play my cards right .. I could have the 2 sets of Control Panels back b4 Monday :cool: Drilling out the button holes myself on the pedestal. Also getting some custom angle pressed up that the underside of the CP hinges off.

Nice 2 see a little more movement in the project :rolleyes Hey narf! ;)

narf_
18th January 2010, 06:07 PM
thats cool mate

just the excitement to see this got to me :redface

i can say my projects are in the same boat i walk past em each day just need time to get into them :realmad:

spriggy
18th January 2010, 06:12 PM
thats cool mate

just the excitement to see this got to me :redface



Alls good mate :cool:

narf_
18th January 2010, 06:16 PM
no worries. we know we have you doing a side projects too :cool:

its a WA conspiracy :lol

spriggy
27th January 2010, 02:04 PM
:038:

Nice large-ish box turned up today :D .. containing my bezels and some other stuff (T_shirts.. keyrings .. 'Centuri' stickers for the coin doors)

I've also been told I should be able to pickup the CP's tomorrow. :cool:

The wait is OVER.. Game On Saturday!!

Thanks to Brian @ Gamestencils.com.. once again .. for a nice mini motherload. :cool:

spriggy
29th January 2010, 12:10 PM
Busy today ... but kwikly chucked on the CPs and bezel for rough test fit and alls good :cool: About fricken time <_< Hopefully have the CP's all drilled, primed and painted tomorrow.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3856/cptest1.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/cptest1.jpg/)

spacies
29th January 2010, 01:08 PM
Sweeeeeeet!

narf_
29th January 2010, 07:21 PM
i reckon this cab will need to be unveiled once gibo gets his shed up

is it possible mate to build a cake to store the cab in :unsure

daics3522
29th January 2010, 08:21 PM
Looking good sprigman

dizamo
29th January 2010, 10:50 PM
about time!!!!!!!!!!!!! looking ok I suppose. Could be better:lol

I may have 2 new pinnies before this project is finished:laugh:

But seriously......................................... ...........lick my nuts:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

daics3522
29th January 2010, 11:36 PM
But seriously......................................... ...........lick my nuts:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

You blokes crack me up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:lol

narf_
29th January 2010, 11:38 PM
daics

if they crack you up take shorter licks :lol:lol:lol:lol

dizamo
29th January 2010, 11:44 PM
:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:pnuts:o:laugh::lol:lol

daics3522
30th January 2010, 12:20 AM
daics
if they crack you up take shorter licks :lol:lol:lol:lol

Your one of the blokes I was referring to also narfunkle.............. :lol:lol

spriggy
30th January 2010, 06:52 PM
:rolleyes I would laugh Damo ... but your not worth-it you poofter! :********:

Anyways .. drilling out the CP's took a bit longer than expected. I really had to make sure all the punch marks and the drilled button holes were accurate.... because the overlays already have the button holes die-cut .. so I couldn't afford to be out 1/32". So full test drill on mdf .. then hit the CP's ... drill ... de-bur.. clean off the cutting oil .. test the CPO <_<

In the end .. finished this arvo.. and alls good. Roughly test fit the Player 1-2 CPO and just stuck it down with painters tape. You get the gist. Will hit up Bunnings tomorrow for some piano hinge and drill and pre-mount it to the CPs before I prime, paint and apply the CPO's.

Also received a very small package in the mail yesterday. Just something little to finish off the cab.:cool:

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8064/cpsdrilled.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/cpsdrilled.jpg/)
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1930/loosetest.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/loosetest.jpg/)
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6497/keyring.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/keyring.jpg/)

Brad
1st February 2010, 11:34 AM
This is an awesome repro and I love the keyring!

Brad

spriggy
1st February 2010, 01:00 PM
Cheers Brad. Not as full on as Dez's LL controller/project or Spacies custom pinny.. to name a few .. but I'm giving it my best. ;)

Just nice to be rolling again. Got a spate of days off from Saturday. I've allocated at least 2-3 of those days to hammer this thing :cool: Only last big things to buy is $250 worth of woodgrain laminate <_< to cover both cabs and the tempered glass

Brad
1st February 2010, 01:16 PM
Mate I only hope I can get a decent enough result for my next project. You guys and your woodwork skills always put me to shame =(

Brad

BettyCrocker1942
1st February 2010, 01:17 PM
Where are you getting your wood-grain laminate from?
Does it match the original 80's style in the little pic you've got?

My friend got me all of the wood-grain sample from his work (he is a store-man at a cabinet makers warehouse)

None of the ones he had looked as 80's as the stick on 'contact' style :(

spriggy
1st February 2010, 01:37 PM
Where are you getting your wood-grain laminate from?
Does it match the original 80's style in the little pic you've got?

My friend got me all of the wood-grain sample from his work (he is a store-man at a cabinet makers warehouse)

None of the ones he had looked as 80's as the stick on 'contact' style :(

Yup .. 'Palisander". Pretty close from what Wade told me. Same wood grain pattern... maybe just ever so slightly darker/redder. These style of woodgrain lamiantes can look quite different in changing lighting or a flash.. so matching off of photos is always gonna be difficult.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3637/palisander.gif (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/palisander.gif/)

dizamo
6th February 2010, 07:50 PM
you have good wood:lol:lol

Wha:unsuret you got planned for the days off bro?

spriggy
7th February 2010, 12:18 PM
Got Monday to Wednesday locked in to work on her. Given myself nice list of what I want done in the 3 days. Looking foward to it :cool:

Just walked in this morning after a shed party up at Craneys. Little foggy headed :cool:

Gotta go to a family do in 2 hours ... :blink:<_< Hooggaannnnnnnnn!

spriggy
8th February 2010, 08:52 PM
Constructive 8-9 hour day. Both CP's mounted and hinged. One set painted .. the other set still painting. Will finish the last coats during this evenings-hours as it dries.

Using pop-rivets to mount the piano hinges to the CP's and mounting brackets. Just used 3 rivets per hinge side for test mounting, then drilled them out when dismantling for painting. Shit loads of holes to drill and a little time getting proper alignment b4 final drilling.. but all came out good.

The original uses 3 button head bolts to screw the CP to the CP support.. but they encroach on the artwork and some artwork wording... so .. Gibo suggested relocatting them so they aren't an eye-sore. 2 will be plenty for HUO machine.. screwed into t-nuts mounted in the underside of the CP supports. They're as solid as a rock when mounted.

I also tested the newly aquired 'Centuri' stickers for the coin doors last week .. on my old restored door.

Tomorrow ... Apply the overlays onto the CP's .. and mount the monitor and bezel.
:cool:

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8099/cp1e.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/cp1e.jpg/)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5715/cp1hinged.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/cp1hinged.jpg/)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7351/cp1underhinge.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/i/cp1underhinge.jpg/)
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3692/cpspainted.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/cpspainted.jpg/)
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6456/testcenturisticker.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/testcenturisticker.jpg/)

dezbaz
8th February 2010, 09:21 PM
Fandabadosie there Spriggy

Looking Fandabadosie (good)

spriggy
8th February 2010, 09:32 PM
Fandabadosie there Spriggy

Looking Fandabadosie (good)

:)
I'm having a few beers now after the hot-ish shed ... but I get the feeling your having more than a few DB ;)

Fandabodosie?? :blink:

dezbaz
8th February 2010, 09:38 PM
:)
I'm having a few beers now after the hot-ish shed ... but I get the feeling your having more than a few DB ;)

Fandabodosie?? :blink:

Our Scottish visitors introduced that hideous word LOL

@lien_Zed
8th February 2010, 10:51 PM
looking good :cool:

spriggy
9th February 2010, 04:23 PM
2pm .. and the day had to be cut short due to other shit!! <_< :realmad: <_<

BUT .. not b4 I got the overlays on, the hinges fully rivetted and CP's final mounting. :cool: **** me those overlays were fiddly to apply properly without an xtra set of hands!. But a bit of patience and a towel rapped around my head to stop the sweat dropping on the clean panels <_< .. and all came out good. They are thick compared to digitally printed vinyl, so I didn't really have to worry so much about bubbling, just good even firm pressure and a hit with the hairdryer when bending around the corners and lips.

Nice to see a bit of color on the bitch. Changes everything!

Continuing tomorrow ...

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2355/cpoapplied1.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/cpoapplied1.jpg/)
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3110/cp1mounted.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/i/cp1mounted.jpg/)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5141/cp1open.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/cp1open.jpg/)
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6420/cp1under.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/cp1under.jpg/)
Slapped on the bezel for a look see. Will obviously be under the CP lips when mounted .. just sits nicer like this for now.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1773/cpsdone.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/i/cpsdone.jpg/)

dizamo
9th February 2010, 06:25 PM
Its starting to take shape now, the controls look very f**king nice.

narf_
9th February 2010, 07:40 PM
towel rapped around my head to stop the sweat dropping on the clean panels

supposed to be sand groper not a sand nigger mate :lol

sounds good did you do the wet method :unsure

dezbaz
9th February 2010, 09:34 PM
Amazing Difference

VFN outcome mate

Ahh cant wait to get my cpo sorted now

spriggy
9th February 2010, 10:00 PM
supposed to be sand groper not a sand nigger mate :lol

sounds good did you do the wet method :unsure

Nope .. dry method on this one narfcicle. Scott had these overlays screenprinted over 7 years ago .. so I was a bit worried 'bout the adhesive lack of bonding with the wet method. I did notice some adhesive movement when I pulled the backing off. You can see it slightly on the player 3-4 overlay ... but only if I point it out. That's what you get working with older stuff. But it still looks sweet and the adhesive is still strong. Only slight lifting on the player 1-2 panel were the overlay is folded over the end lip.. on the backside that clamps onto the glass about 8mm in one corner and the same in the middle. Nothing that a dab of 3M spray adhesive didn't fix.


Amazing Difference

VFN outcome mate

Ahh cant wait to get my cpo sorted now

Cheers dude. Likewise with your CPO m8. Watching with interest :cool:

spacies
10th February 2010, 03:39 AM
Mean!

spriggy
10th February 2010, 04:39 PM
Monitor mounting done. This isn't Gibo's monitor, so I haven't drilled out the bolt holes yet. To fine tune this monitors height for a nice fit with the bezel, raised her up 4 washers thick on the mounting lugs.. and was perfect.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1127/monitorcutoutp.jpg (http://img713.imageshack.us/i/monitorcutoutp.jpg/)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8656/mounted2.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/mounted2.jpg/)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8143/mounted1.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/mounted1.jpg/)

GIBO
10th February 2010, 05:49 PM
Might pay to make the monitor hole a bit bigger mate to allow for a degausing coil,I know we have talked about it before but I hope those little blocks of wood are strong enough to hold the monitor over time:unsure

narf_
10th February 2010, 06:41 PM
can agree with gibo

maybe some bolts thru them to re enforce :unsure

spriggy
10th February 2010, 07:37 PM
Good call on the degaus coil. Should fit ok though .. photo's a bit decieving.

As for the 18mm blocks of wood... they're temporary held with screws just for testing on these photos. They'll be held in place with 2 x 6mm bolts and t-nuts mounted on the top... glued & screwed

narf_
10th February 2010, 07:40 PM
nice

this makes me cry since i found a leaf switch in my shit pile today :cry

spriggy
10th February 2010, 08:30 PM
Yeh narfy. These NOS leafs feel awesome! I reckon I'll be beating my 8.70-ish 100 meter times :cool:

Gib .. The degauss coil on this monitor fits ok .. albeit snug. I'll take another 8mm off all round for more room to play. Those blocks won't be going anywhere when I'm finished m8! ;)

So.. whats next .. Full check over the whole cab to make sure everythings done .. order the glass ... buy the laminate .... then dismantle the cab ... put aside a day to trace the bits I need for my cab ... laminate the sides then route the t-mold slot. Test some t-mold to see if I need 18 or 20mm with laminate on. Paint the bitch black then re-assemble ..

Getting close Gib .... (Thank **** he says)

narf_
10th February 2010, 08:53 PM
yeah

i found a heap of leafs gave gibo a while ago

i had a heap of complete buttons bought few years ago for $2 each new :cry

spriggy
16th February 2010, 04:15 PM
Well... main construction of this cabinet is done!! Made the monitor hole larger so the degaussing coil wasn't such a tight squeeze (as hinted by Gib) .. re-enforced the corner mounting blocks with 1/4" bolts and t-nuts ... finished off the inside divider panel and a few other little things. :cool:

I won't route the t-mold slot until I get the laminate on the sides, for obvious reasons. I'll order the glass tomorrow for the final 'fitting' piece, before dismantling for the last stages.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3405/insideshot.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/insideshot.jpg/)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2244/monitortop.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/monitortop.jpg/)

MamePatrol
1st May 2010, 03:52 PM
Just awesome..!!!!!

Can't wait to see the finished product....

spriggy
25th June 2010, 04:47 PM
WOW.. has it been this long :confused:

Well ... few things have happened that kept me busy away from the cab/hobby, a recent cab hick-up :huh: (now fixed) and yaddayadda.

So ... as of tommorrow .. back on the wagon. The Balcatta outlet now has some 'Palasander' laminex in stock (only 8 sheets ... but no-one buys this old school 80's pattern much now I gather :rolleyes )

So head down and bum up .... and get this fricken thing to Gibo :boring: I have no intent in getting body-slammed by the big guy :huh: The delay on this cab getting to him has been pretty piss-poor on my account <_<

Cheers

dezbaz
25th June 2010, 07:24 PM
Good one Spriggy, welcome back m8 :)

spriggy
6th July 2010, 05:42 PM
The jigsaw stripped down and everything painted semi-gloss enamel black.. except for the outer sides of course. The palisander laminate will be in the house within the next few days :cool: Another coat of semi still ta go.

As usual .. I roll .. as my place is not spray friendly. But have rolled alot in the past, so no issues and have learnt the secrets for the best finish ;) I did use the smaller mini foam rollers this time, as they have a finer surface than the big ones. I'm happy with the finish of the normal 'gray' foamies .. but these gem white ones are leaving even less noticable orange peel. Very happy. All in the prep and application.

Here some finish camera phone pix of the semi-gloss for Gibo's sake. Don't forget this is still drying, so less sheen still to come with drying.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/931/apartandpainted.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/apartandpainted.jpg/)
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8929/finish1x.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/finish1x.jpg/)
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4350/finish2b.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/finish2b.jpg/)

narf_
6th July 2010, 05:47 PM
nice mate

gibo will need a pink stereo in his shed to :laugh:

dezbaz
6th July 2010, 06:49 PM
Good on ya mate :)

daics3522
6th July 2010, 07:05 PM
Looking good Sprigman !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spriggy
6th July 2010, 07:13 PM
nice mate

gibo will need a pink stereo in his shed to :laugh:

Hey .. don't knock the Barbie stereo poof!! ;) Courtesy of the daughter, after her 1000w upgrade :rolleyes

GIBO
6th July 2010, 08:53 PM
MMMmmm ....semi gloss

illawarra_steelers
6th July 2010, 09:06 PM
You arcade fellas leave the pinball guys in the dust with projects like this :)

spriggy
6th July 2010, 09:22 PM
MMMmmm ....semi gloss

:D Fool


You arcade fellas leave the pinball guys in the dust with projects like this :)

Nice comment m8, cheers.. but it's what you know I suppose.
I haven't touched a pinny.. restore-wise that is.. and some of the pinball restore/build projects I've seen locally and on AA are bloody impressive. A level above this imo, when you start talking about repairing boards, playfield/cabinet touch-ups etc.

Pat on the back for everyone I say!! :cool:

kakab
7th July 2010, 07:33 AM
Hey Spriggy , I cant remember what the games setup will be ?

Do you have T & F PCB game board or are you maming it ?

BTW very sweet build mate :023:

Karl

spriggy
7th July 2010, 10:12 AM
Hey Spriggy , I cant remember what the games setup will be ?

Do you have T & F PCB game board or are you maming it ?

BTW very sweet build mate :023:

Karl

Original PCB, wired to Konami Classic standard.

spriggy
14th July 2010, 01:04 AM
'Palisander' Wood Grain Laminate pay'd for :cool: and I'm told ready for pickup tomorrow around lunchtime. 1 side is ready and lying in wait for some 'lam' action.

Something about a light at the end of some long tunnel!! <_< :rolleyes

spriggy
17th July 2010, 04:08 PM
Found a couple of midday hours b4 my shift this arvo :cool:
Added some brief descriptions for curious peeps who haven't laminated b4

Lam sheet ..
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4392/tflamsheet.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/tflamsheet.jpg/)

Traced around the side and lam scored, giving around 20mm overhang.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/104/tflamprecut.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/tflamprecut.jpg/)

Coat both mating sides with glue (I use Tin 'Kwik Grip') Leave till tacky. 20mins for me.
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8105/tflamglueprep.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/tflamglueprep.jpg/)

Lay some dowels on the side, line up & place the lam on the dowels. Double check overhang all way round.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7725/tflamdowels.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/tflamdowels.jpg/)

Take out 1 dowel at a time, apply even hard pressure as you go. I have an old 'Enyo' mitten I chuck on to apply this pressure. Then roll the top with good pressure with a J-roller or smooth rolling pin. Start from the center and work out. Looking for good smooth surface and even bonding.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6450/tflamapplied.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/tflamapplied.jpg/)

Trim with router/trimmer. Run around the trimmed edge, gently, with a small fine toothed file.. giving it a micro bevelled edge... and done. Clean up unwanted glue with mineral turps.
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/556/tflamroutertrimmed.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/tflamroutertrimmed.jpg/)

Sexy :cool: Pretty damn close to the original lam as well.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9085/tflamdone.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/tflamdone.jpg/)

daics3522
17th July 2010, 04:55 PM
Nice work Sprigman

dezbaz
17th July 2010, 06:38 PM
Far Out Spriggy, nice effort, GREAT RESULT!!!

How did you cut the lam mate? Jigger?

:cool::):D:cool:

Hoopstar
17th July 2010, 07:04 PM
As usual .. I roll .. as my place is not spray friendly. But have rolled alot in the past, so no issues and have learnt the secrets for the best finish ;)
Nice work - care to share any of these tips Spriggy?


Hoops

spriggy
17th July 2010, 07:34 PM
Far Out Spriggy, nice effort, GREAT RESULT!!!

How did you cut the lam mate? Jigger?

:cool::):D:cool:

[@work]
Cheers lads.

Dez, I used my a laminate hand scorer/cutter (in the first pic on the metal rule) that I bought from Bunnings many moons ago for my first cabinet lam job whne I started the hobby. I imagine u can still get them there.


Nice work - care to share any of these tips Spriggy?

Hoops

For sure m8.. Here's an old thread I made mention of my rolling process... however I've refined it a bit since then(mentioned below).. but the rolling application is the same and the lay-off process http://www.aussiearcade.com/showthread.php?t=23951&highlight=foam+roller

I use 'Terebine' to help speed up the drying process on the Oil based, slightly thins it as well so paint seems to sit nicer. I also stay away from High Gloss .. unless you really need to match a cabinet finish. I use Semi-Gloss/Satin Oil based. I use between 400-1200grit paper between coats depending on whats needed. Instead of my 'Grey' foamies, I used smaller 'Gem' white foam rollers (10 in a pack for about $15 from memory). Gave a better finish (ie slightly less orange peel). The 230mm 'Grey' Bunnings foamies are better that the more expensive 'Blue' trade ones imo.
You'll also have to load up the 'Gem' rollers constantly as they hold alot less paint. Just don't load them up to much, to help minimise air bubbles during application. You'll get small bubbles anyway with the 'Gems' but they disappear after layoff and drying. I got ZERO!

Obviously paint in the best dust free place you have. My shed sux, but the garage is fine. I wet the floor prior. I hang a clean drop sheet at the end to minimise air flow through it. Common sense prevails that as soon as the surface is painted, I make sure I have prepped an area where I can stand it upright to dry to minimise dust settle on the surface (As opposed to letting it dry on its back)

I think thats it? ;)

spacies
17th July 2010, 08:00 PM
Cab looks sweet Spriggy!!!!

A good tip for enamels is to warm it up before using it. Before these acrylic enamels came along we used to sit the 4l tins on a low heat element for a while. Hot paint flows and sits down better than cold paint. You should try it and yeah, use an additive for better flow too. Over here we have Floetrol (pron flow-troll) and that works sweet.

Also, when it is hard (a week or two) you can sand it very flat and buff it up with some cutting compound. You can get it looking like glass it you want to go that far.

Sorry for the hijack :D

spriggy
17th July 2010, 08:23 PM
Cab looks sweet Spriggy!!!!

A good tip for enamels is to warm it up before using it. Before these acrylic enamels came along we used to sit the 4l tins on a low heat element for a while. Hot paint flows and sits down better than cold paint. You should try it and yeah, use an additive for better flow too. Over here we have Floetrol (pron flow-troll) and that works sweet.

Also, when it is hard (a week or two) you can sand it very flat and buff it up with some cutting compound. You can get it looking like glass it you want to go that far.

Sorry for the hijack :D

Thx for the tips m8. I'll try the heat method 4 sure. Hijack? NAH! Don't be sorry ... I'm a pretend wannabe painter .. not a real one like you ;) What's your take on these new acrylic enamels? Surely these water based nams aren't as tough as the oil?? I just like the idea of water cleanup!

daics3522
17th July 2010, 09:54 PM
Hijack?

Sorry for the hijack also, but god damn I love your avatar.........:o :D

spriggy
17th July 2010, 10:15 PM
Sorry for the hijack also, but god damn I love your avatar.........:o :D

Cheers..Yeh.. love my Atari stuff and have been using the girl licking the 2600 joystick for years. Time for a change :cool:

http://www.deviantart.com/ is by far the best place for wallpapers, avatars and basic art etc, imo. And good search engine.

The Pinny Parlour
18th July 2010, 12:23 AM
Nice lam job... well done.

spriggy
1st August 2010, 10:04 PM
Thank **** nightshifts over <_<

Got some good time in today to do some MORE painting of parts and panels. Coz everything is being painted black inside & out with oil based .. you can only roll one side at a time, then you have to wait a fricken day for the bastard to dry .. turn over .. paint .. dry .... recoat .. <_< Almost their though.. as I'm giving the main exposed cabinet ends 3 coats and 2 for the insides. Routered the t-molding slots (after a test rout with a laminated mdf offcut)
Applied the 'Centuri' sticker(s) I had done a while ago (from Brian @ Gamestencils) to Gibs single slotter. Looks sweet!!

The other side is ready for laminating after painting 2day .. Will laminate her tomorrow and get some more painting in.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8830/gibscd.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/gibscd.jpg/)

Muzz
2nd August 2010, 01:29 PM
Thats going to look awesome when its done Spriggy...

ArcadeWorx
2nd August 2010, 04:38 PM
Hey Spriggy,

Thats some nice work on the cabinet. Looks really clean and professional and nice wirte up on all the steps.

Be good to see it up and running :)

DarthKnight
2nd August 2010, 06:25 PM
Dude this is grouse