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Mr_Staypuft
12th March 2009, 09:43 PM
Well,

I've got something new for the gamesroom...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0635.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0652.jpg

A Hankin cocktail, with Namco Classics II + 2 caroma stools.
Got it from a nice bloke in Sydney who didn't know too much about arcade stuff,
but knew enough about what Hankins sell for. (d'oh :D)

Of course, I've got some questions...

1. "Player 1 start" doesn't work.
Tested the switch (continuity mode) and the switch is fine.
Obviously there's a problem in the cable/connections.

Hmmm... is there a 'trick' to undoing these connectors???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0644.jpg

I tried pulling them apart with 2 sets of pliers & got nowhere.
I didn't want to attack it too hard, as the wires seem pretty brittle.

2. Is it possible for this sort of joystick to be adjusted to "4 way" mode? How?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0646.jpg

3. There was a loose red wire - that goes to a "loop" on the side of the monitor.
I assume that's a degaussing thing. But I can't find where it plugs into...?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0657.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0655.jpg

4. There's an on/off switch in the cab, above the volume control.
It doesn't seem to do anything. Ideas?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0653.jpg

5. The front lock is missing, and I'll have to drill out the coinbox lock.
Are all these locks the same size? Or do I have to measure something?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0650.jpg

6. The main reason I bought this particular machine was that it had 2 players/1 side.
Yes- I know it's not the original setup, but wifey & I wanted to play 1943 together.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0666.jpg

The thing is, the joysticks are remarkably close to the glass edge.
Is that always the case with Hankin cocktails?
There doesn't appear to be much room to mount them "further" away from the glass,
which is a pity was you can't really hold the joystick normally.

7. Here's 3 piccies of the internals.
If anyone has any suggestions on what could be done to tidy it up,
or can identify any of the important components... (eg those 2 strange connections to the "floor"?)
that would be great.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0664.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0661.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0660.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0654.jpg


8. Finally, the glass has lots of fine scratches, and the CP is a mess.
Is any way to "fill in" glass - like you do with a scratched CD?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/David_Manning/GameRoom/cocktail/IMG_0641.jpg

As for the CP, I read of people sandblasting & powder coating.
Any tips/guidelines for someone who knows nothing about this stuff?
I'd be looking to pay someone to do it - I have zero tools/experience with such things.

Thanks for any/all help.

Foot
12th March 2009, 09:53 PM
One thing at a time

Yay!
1. Do the connectors have little tabs in the slots that need to be depressed before pulling apart?
2. 4 way, shit yeh, undo the two little screws closet to the stick centre and shift to the right (flower shape thingy)
3. goes somewhere on the chassis (hick)
4. test swtich, not an on off switch I think

That'll do for a start

coolspot
12th March 2009, 09:56 PM
the transformer is arlec i have one of them i like them a lot

arcadus
12th March 2009, 10:31 PM
The red wire/plug (deguassing coil) should go behind the white resistor at the top left of photo 11, but the power plug to it is missing anyway.

The strange connections on the floor :unsure, the blue and brown wires:unsure is the on/off switch.. if that's what you're referring to.

coolspot
12th March 2009, 10:34 PM
of course the switch doesnt do anything its not hooked up:laugh: :lol

Fish Tales
13th March 2009, 07:41 AM
grats on getting your holy grail cab Gabe
:)

Johns-Arcade
13th March 2009, 08:39 AM
Wow, another working 3 piece Kaga!

Don't worry about the degusse coil, just leave it unplugged

Nice pick up Gabe, enjoy your new toy :D

Regards,

Johns-Arcade.

Mr_Staypuft
13th March 2009, 01:55 PM
One thing at a time

Yay!
1. Do the connectors have little tabs in the slots that need to be depressed before pulling apart?
2. 4 way, shit yeh, undo the two little screws closet to the stick centre and shift to the right (flower shape thingy)
3. goes somewhere on the chassis (hick)
4. test swtich, not an on off switch I think

That'll do for a start

Thanks Foot -
1 + 2. Will give those ideas a go.


The strange connections on the floor :unsure, the blue and brown wires:unsure is the on/off switch.. if that's what you're referring to.

Oh - so it is!
The unit has it's legs set so "low" that the base of the cab is virtually touching the floor.
That's why I hadn't realised there was an on/off switch there!


grats on getting your holy grail cab Gabe
:)

Thanks EB.
Once I get it up & running, I'll have to challenge you to a game or 10.


Wow, another working 3 piece Kaga!

Don't worry about the degusse coil, just leave it unplugged


Thanks JA...
and everyone for your quick responses. :) :) :)

If anyone else can help with these 4 'noob Qs' that would be great:

5. The front lock is missing, and I'll have to drill out the coinbox lock.
Are all these locks the same size? Or do I have to measure something?

6. The joysticks are remarkably close to the glass edge.
Is that always the case with Hankin cocktails?
There doesn't appear to be much room to mount them "further" away from the glass,
which is a pity was you can't really hold the joystick normally.

8. Finally, the glass has lots of fine scratches, and the CP is a mess.
Is any way to "fill in" glass - like you do with a scratched CD?

9. As for the CP, I read of people sandblasting & powder coating.
Any tips/guidelines for someone who knows nothing about this stuff?
I'd be looking to pay someone to do it - I have zero tools/experience with such things.

I read of our fine W.A. friends doing a bit of this, but I assume sending a CP to WA
would be a bit costly..?

coolspot
13th March 2009, 02:05 PM
the chassis if it is a kaga or nanao has a extra bit the degauss plugs into it should be next to the square white resistor ill upload a pic of mine later i have a gaga denshi kz20en

Davefjedi
13th March 2009, 02:38 PM
the locks on these are all the same size

cp to get powder coated just take it to a local powdercoater get a price for sandblasting and powder coating I paid 30 bucks for my 2 to get done
the joystick cant really be moved from where they are you will see when you take off the cp
nice looking cab to

RaMpAgE
13th March 2009, 02:49 PM
5. The front lock is missing, and I'll have to drill out the coinbox lock.
Are all these locks the same size? Or do I have to measure something?

6. The joysticks are remarkably close to the glass edge.
Is that always the case with Hankin cocktails?
There doesn't appear to be much room to mount them "further" away from the glass,
which is a pity was you can't really hold the joystick normally.

8. Finally, the glass has lots of fine scratches, and the CP is a mess.
Is any way to "fill in" glass - like you do with a scratched CD?

9. As for the CP, I read of people sandblasting & powder coating.
Any tips/guidelines for someone who knows nothing about this stuff?
I'd be looking to pay someone to do it - I have zero tools/experience with such things.

5. measure the lock barrell and that will be the one you need. (if you don't have it a 25mm lock is pritty much standard)

6. deal with it

8. get a new glass top made - take the top to your glasier who will cut out a new one.

9. dismantle the cp and take it to a powder coater who will sand blast it and recoat it with nice powdercoat (hinge and all)

cheers

Davefjedi
13th March 2009, 04:58 PM
Do not take it hinge and all most Hankins I have seen just pull the top of the cp off 8 bolts i think it is just take that in
the rest (the dimply metal)should come up with hot soapy water and a scourer
also use some of the spray on cooking oil on the wood grain on the side with a soft cloth and let me know what you think of the result(use it on mine and worked a treat)

EDIT ***** just lookd at your cp and you may want to take the whole thing in didnt see the scuffs on the bottom bit) make sure when you get it back the hinge still works dont let them powdercoat it solid

Mr_Staypuft
14th March 2009, 12:17 AM
Thanks everyone :)

PS:


cp to get powder coated just take it to a local powdercoater
get a price for sandblasting and powder coating
I paid 30 bucks for my 2 to get done

$30! That's much better than I feared. :)

OK (noob hat on) what do I ask for?

I googled "powdercoating australia" and got this site:
http://www.duluxpowders.com.au
....which has 9 million options.

Is there a particular "coat" or "colour" or "style" (that I should ask for)
..that matches what we're trying to achieve? :unsure

Foot
14th March 2009, 12:59 AM
My legs were black satin, they just stuck em in with the next run

Johns-Arcade
14th March 2009, 10:49 AM
Satin Black is the go Gabe (As pointed out by Foot). Besides, most powder coat places run satin black as a standard colour and asking for a particular colour will require a special order of the powder and will cost a lot more.

Regards,

Johns-Arcade.

narf_
14th March 2009, 10:51 AM
i must be lucky then

my PC charges same price for all colours (about 50)

Johns-Arcade
14th March 2009, 10:58 AM
i must be lucky then

my PC charges same price for all colours (about 50)

He must already have your colour in stock. Normally if the colour isn't in stock, they charge you for the full amount (usually a few kg worth).

Regards,

Johns-Arcade.

narf_
14th March 2009, 01:01 PM
ahh cheers john

ive been a few times and he just pulls out a colour chart and says take a pic

i did ask about colour pricing and all was the same bar the mirror chrome stuff

Mr_Staypuft
14th March 2009, 01:12 PM
Thanks very much, my "Knights in Black Satin"... :D

Regarding the CP - is there anything else that I need to do to
(besides removing all the buttons/joys/switches etc)
in preparation before taking it to the sandblast/powdercoat place?

PS: Any Central Coast / Newcastle members got a local sandblast/powdercoat contact? :cool:

Johns-Arcade
14th March 2009, 01:48 PM
Thanks very much, my "Knights in Black Satin"... :D

Regarding the CP - is there anything else that I need to do to
(besides removing all the buttons/joys/switches etc)
in preparation before taking it to the sandblast/powdercoat place?

PS: Any Central Coast / Newcastle members got a local sandblast/powdercoat contact? :cool:

No Gabe, once you're stripped the panels of everything it's ready to be sandblasted. And once it's sandblasted it's right to go to the powder coaters.

Regards,

Johns-Arcade.

Mr_Staypuft
17th March 2009, 08:49 PM
Update:

Hooray!

Pulled apart the cable connectors, and then whilst trying to find the fault
- P1 start was working again!

Now, I've just gotta try a few PCBs out in it... :-)

MetalSkin
24th March 2009, 09:22 AM
Man just found this thread. I'd give my left nut for one of these! This is my fav cocktail cab and if I had a chance to get one I would. Man your a bloody lucky man! and to have your wife play '42 with you, man that's kinda like heaven!

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out, this is something I would love to do!

Mr_Staypuft
24th March 2009, 10:05 PM
Man just found this thread. I'd give my left nut for one of these! This is my fav cocktail cab and if I had a chance to get one I would. Man your a bloody lucky man! and to have your wife play '42 with you, man that's kinda like heaven!


Yeah, they're a nice unit.

Sadly, the P1 start button is still acting up, and strangely when I checked the voltages,
it was adjusted "way high" for some reason..??!?

eg +5v was actually 6.5v, and 12 was about 13.5??

Turned them down now.

Oh, and it's 1943 by the way (2 player simultaneous).
I don't have that one yet (AK sold me a nice '42) but one day I shall...



Looking forward to seeing how this turns out, this is something I would love to do!

Yeah, still hoping to find someone in the Newcastle/Central Coast area
who knows about sandblasting/powdercoating....

We had lots of good advice earlier in this thread,
but mostly from people further afield..

Fish Tales
25th March 2009, 07:25 AM
There are sandblasters/powder coaters in Newcastle Gabe. I have been out of the automotive industry for many years, but maybe the place at Hexham still exists.

also try these guys: Cardiff Powder Coating Pty Ltd
Category: Powder Coating Services

Address
36- 38 Pendlebury Rd
Cardiff
NSW, 2285
Australia
Get directions

Contact Details
Ph: (02) 4956 5433

Mr_Staypuft
25th March 2009, 08:51 PM
Thanks EB.

I knew someone would have some tips. :cool: