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Fair Dinkum Dan
9th January 2009, 12:18 AM
That's right. Looks like there is a company, who call themselves Home Pinball (http://www.homepin.com/), who are designing a full size pinball machine to be sold in kit form which you build yourself (BIY).

Looks very interesting indeed. Click the link above or here it is again: www.homepin.com/ (http://www.homepin.com/)

Apparently, it is expected to be released December 2009.

Cheers,

Dan

ANT68
9th January 2009, 12:53 AM
Wow interesting ,I wonder who they are ?

TheYellowDart
9th January 2009, 01:15 AM
Ah nice. All this recent interest in homebrew pinball projects is quite exciting. Here's hoping they decide to sell packages of the cpu and driver boards etc.

Fish Tales
9th January 2009, 07:42 AM
That's right. Looks like there is a company, who call themselves Home Pinball (http://www.homepin.com/), who are designing a full size pinball machine to be sold in kit form which you build yourself (BIY).

Looks very interesting indeed. Click the link above or here it is again: www.homepin.com/ (http://www.homepin.com/)

Apparently, it is expected to be released December 2009.

Cheers,

Dan

Do you know where these machines will be built or sold from Dan?
Be great to know a little more about this, noticed the pricing for mini-kits was in AU so maybe this is an aussie company?

David_AVD
9th January 2009, 08:19 AM
Aren't those the kits that were on eBay recently?
A whois search reveals:


Domain Name: HOMEPIN.COM
Registrar: ENETICA PTY LTD
Whois Server: whois.enetica.com.au
Referral URL: http://www.enetica.com.au
Name Server: NS1.WEBCITY.COM.AU
Name Server: NS2.WEBCITY.COM.AU
Name Server: NS3.WEBCITY.COM.AU
Status: ok
Updated Date: 11-nov-2008
Creation Date: 11-jan-2006
Expiration Date: 11-jan-2010


Futher digging shows it is that Cairns eBay guy:


Registrant Details:
Katana Trading
P.O. Box 6926
Cairns, Queensland 4870
AU

Domain Name: HOMEPIN.COM

Administrative Contact:
Kalinowski, Mike
P.O. Box 6926
Cairns, Queensland 4870
AU
+61.416720510

Technical Contact:
Kalinowski, Mike
P.O. Box 6926
Cairns, Queensland 4870
AU
+61.416720510

Name Server: ns1.webcity.com.au
Name Server: ns2.webcity.com.au
Name Server: NS3.WEBCITY.COM.AU

Registrar of Record: Enetica Pty Ltd
Record last updated on 2008-03-10
Record created on 2006-01-12
Record expires on 2010-01-12


All of the above came from a fairly simple public search so is ok to show here I believe.

stuba
9th January 2009, 08:32 AM
Aren't those the kits that were on eBay recently?
A whois search reveals:


Domain Name: HOMEPIN.COM
Registrar: ENETICA PTY LTD
Whois Server: whois.enetica.com.au
Referral URL: http://www.enetica.com.au
Name Server: NS1.WEBCITY.COM.AU
Name Server: NS2.WEBCITY.COM.AU
Name Server: NS3.WEBCITY.COM.AU
Status: ok
Updated Date: 11-nov-2008
Creation Date: 11-jan-2006
Expiration Date: 11-jan-2010


Futher digging shows it is that Cairns eBay guy:


Registrant Details:
Katana Trading
P.O. Box 6926
Cairns, Queensland 4870
AU

Domain Name: HOMEPIN.COM

Administrative Contact:
Kalinowski, Mike
P.O. Box 6926
Cairns, Queensland 4870
AU
+61.416720510

Technical Contact:
Kalinowski, Mike
P.O. Box 6926
Cairns, Queensland 4870
AU
+61.416720510

Name Server: ns1.webcity.com.au
Name Server: ns2.webcity.com.au
Name Server: NS3.WEBCITY.COM.AU

Registrar of Record: Enetica Pty Ltd
Record last updated on 2008-03-10
Record created on 2006-01-12
Record expires on 2010-01-12


All of the above came from a fairly simple public search so is ok to show here I believe.


sheesh!

what colour undies am i wearing??

:)

thats scary!

staceyamusements
9th January 2009, 08:42 AM
sheesh!

what colour undies am i wearing??

:)

thats scary!

I think that they are brown after you shit yourself with excitement.

@lien_Zed
9th January 2009, 08:45 AM
sheesh!

what colour undies am i wearing??

:)

thats scary!

you can get this from any web site... nothing new here

Brad
9th January 2009, 09:27 AM
This is the same guy that was selling those mini kits on ebay using "someone else's artwork"

Brad

Arcade King
9th January 2009, 09:27 AM
the concept is actually a fantastic idea.

Brad
9th January 2009, 09:40 AM
the concept is actually a fantastic idea.

It'll be wholly dependent on price though.

Brad

David_AVD
9th January 2009, 10:04 AM
The quality of the individual pieces look good so far.

furballx
9th January 2009, 11:49 AM
No better way to learn the workings of your pin, after all you BUILT IT!
Dave

Brad
9th January 2009, 12:19 PM
Agreed Dave but if the cost is equivalent or more expensive to an existing pin, theres almost no point?

Brad

dmworking247
9th January 2009, 12:24 PM
Bring it on I say...

Personally I don't want a full kit, but a legit retail option for the components to build my own (ie I decide the theme, the playfield layout, the art etc, I just want the bumpers, flippers, the power supply etc... bring it on I say.

Surely they would have to be more cost effective than official licensed spare parts for machines built for commercial flogging.

Fair Dinkum Dan
9th January 2009, 12:32 PM
Do you know where these machines will be built or sold from Dan?
Be great to know a little more about this, noticed the pricing for mini-kits was in AU so maybe this is an aussie company?

I found out yesterday when I followed the link in the comments section, from that Pat Lawlor interview.

From their webpage, I deduced the guy is probably up Queensland and sells those mini-pin kits.

They will be updating their website as they progress, from their comments on the webpage.

I love their new parts they are building for it. Playfield, though, looks like MDF. :unsure

Still, this could be a very interesting project. Hats off to the guys who are doing it. :023:

Cheers,

Dan

Fish Tales
9th January 2009, 12:52 PM
Hmm we should contact them, let them know AA's interest.
Anyone wanna do this?

ROLLERBALL
9th January 2009, 01:03 PM
I could finally get a D E V O pinball machine

furballx
9th January 2009, 01:05 PM
Agreed Dave but if the cost is equivalent or more expensive to an existing pin, theres almost no point?

Brad


Fair enough call Brad, but with 4000+ parts in a pin surely the major component will be assemble? That said it could be difficult for a small seller to get the parts for a price to make the package affordable. Will be worth a look all the same I reckon.
Dave

Nug
9th January 2009, 01:06 PM
indeed, one hell of a kit !!!

...anybody know OS details :unsure

Arcade King
9th January 2009, 01:10 PM
Fair enough call Brad, but with 4000+ parts in a pin surely the major component will be assemble? That said it could be difficult for a small seller to get the parts for a price to make the package affordable. Will be worth a look all the same I reckon.
Dave

I very much doubt any licensed stuff like coils, flipper bats, well just about everything could be sold with the kit. I'd say it would have to be bought separately anyway.

Nug
9th January 2009, 01:13 PM
interesting is the coil wrapper... AE 23-800 50v (home pin)
to me alluding to compatability with wms stuff...also interesting is apart from the interface electronics the mechs look like wms stuff.

mmm that sling/pop driver circuit looks familiar too! :D

Arcade King
9th January 2009, 01:16 PM
looks like the bases are covered then

Fish Tales
9th January 2009, 01:34 PM
hadnt seen this vid before, looks like coconut is getting close?

YouTube - Coconut Island Home Made Pinball First Full Game

Nug
9th January 2009, 02:18 PM
thats a mega old vid (flipper sticking problem !!!)...first game under OS i think...you need the last before artwork...and hey just wait 1 more week!

:D

YouTube - Coconut Island Homemade Pinball

ktm450
9th January 2009, 03:12 PM
thats a mega old vid (flipper sticking problem !!!)...first game under OS i think...you need the last before artwork...and hey just wait 1 more week!

:D

YouTube - Coconut Island Homemade Pinball (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=J_oX-0POLAI)

So when is the BIG unveiling mate??? :D

AskJacob
9th January 2009, 03:15 PM
...and hey just wait 1 more week!


:badgrin here's my guess :D

ktm450
9th January 2009, 03:24 PM
:badgrin here's my guess :D

Was actually looking for my invite :110: :badgrin

Nug
9th January 2009, 04:51 PM
So when is the BIG unveiling mate??? :D

you my friend, believe it or not....are a playtester !

sooner than you think !

i will be most interested in your comments/responses/opinion/bug tests(!) as you have not seen or played it at all and know something of pinball.

:D

regards

Fish Tales
9th January 2009, 06:05 PM
Well I sent an email to Mike, and got a great reply. He is also aware of the interest here and will be making a post on AA. As for what he told me.... well he requested that I give him the opportunity the introduce himself, and the details of the kit pinball. Sounds good!
:)

Brad
9th January 2009, 06:12 PM
Fair enough call Brad, but with 4000+ parts in a pin surely the major component will be assemble? That said it could be difficult for a small seller to get the parts for a price to make the package affordable. Will be worth a look all the same I reckon.
Dave

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. If it works out cheap enough I might actually be able to afford a pinball but I ain't holding my breath. the cost of components will be the killer I reckon.

Brad

Nug
9th January 2009, 06:17 PM
a stuffed donor playfield gives you just about all you need and by far most economical (lamp assys general purpose coils/ejects kickers etc maybe you could stick some other head on a partyzone toy!!! etc)

at a guess
2X flippers
3X pops
2X slings

$2-300 aud :unsure

Ballypinball
9th January 2009, 06:21 PM
Aren't those the kits that were on eBay recently?
A whois search reveals:


Domain Name: HOMEPIN.COM
Registrar: ENETICA PTY LTD
Whois Server: whois.enetica.com.au
Referral URL: http://www.enetica.com.au
Name Server: NS1.WEBCITY.COM.AU
Name Server: NS2.WEBCITY.COM.AU
Name Server: NS3.WEBCITY.COM.AU
Status: ok
Updated Date: 11-nov-2008
Creation Date: 11-jan-2006
Expiration Date: 11-jan-2010


Futher digging shows it is that Cairns eBay guy:


Registrant Details:
Katana Trading
P.O. Box 6926
Cairns, Queensland 4870
AU

Domain Name: HOMEPIN.COM

Administrative Contact:
Kalinowski, Mike
P.O. Box 6926
Cairns, Queensland 4870
AU
+61.416720510

Technical Contact:
Kalinowski, Mike
P.O. Box 6926
Cairns, Queensland 4870
AU
+61.416720510

Name Server: ns1.webcity.com.au
Name Server: ns2.webcity.com.au
Name Server: NS3.WEBCITY.COM.AU

Registrar of Record: Enetica Pty Ltd
Record last updated on 2008-03-10
Record created on 2006-01-12
Record expires on 2010-01-12


All of the above came from a fairly simple public search so is ok to show here I believe.


Yes same guy who copied Rollerballs Kit

Here was his reply weeks ago

for the record i own no properties
and i have no assets so if you are
that stupid sue away!

Homepin
9th January 2009, 10:42 PM
Hello Pinball Community,

I have noticed this thread at AA about our project and followed it with much interest. It's good to know that enthusiasts are curious about our product. Please let me give a little background (apologies in advance for the long post).

I am an electronics engineer that designs and makes small projects (normally one off or only a handful) for various companies around Australia - they call on me when others refuse to do it (either too small, little profit etc). I have also been involved in the amusement industry on and off for 25 years. I have a small office and staff in China and have access to electronic components/motors/switches/printing/metal stamping etc at crazy prices so it is possible the finished product will be priced very attractively (as yet unknown) yet still actually be built in Australia.

This pinball project started about 2 years ago as a father/son bonding project. My son is a graphic artist who specialises in cartoon (hand drawn) so this looked like a perfect project. I figured to use so much time on such a complex project it would be a waste not to take it further.

I had intended to "lay low" until we had some more concrete information to offer as things are still very much in their infancy. Let me give you a VERY brief update but it is also very much subject to change. Items are in no particular order.

(1) Theme is not yet firmly decided - possibly "Grafitti" as we have used this to date for setup of PF layout.

(2) Initial (small) run will be 220/240 volt machines for AU/NZ.

(3) I note comments about MDF being used. This is for prototyping only as it is "quick and dirty" but functional. It is planned to use CNC routed plywood for the finished item. The CNC router is currently in transit from my China office. Playfield will be screen printed on plastic overlay with clear on top (remember - home use, not heavy duty commercial) to keep costs down.

(4) Playfield plastics will be screen printed in house and laser cut on our own industrial laser machine. We already have these skills and this equipment.

(5) Mechanisms are loosely based on other brand mechs - after all, there are only so many ways you can do something!

(6) Coils are interchangeable with WMS parts.

(7) Many "industry standard" parts are used as they are not subject to copyright - such as generic flipper bats (no logo) PBparts/posts/rubbers/targets etc.

(8) We design ALL electronics in house - including manufacture and assembly of the printed circuit boards in Australia.

(9) It is planned to sell the machine with all major assemblys assembled and tested individually, wiring harness fully assembled and tested.

(10) Cabinet art will be fixed in place to the cabinet parts ready to assemble.

(11) Some thought is being given to selling the kit in stages - cabinet, mechanicals, electronics??? As yet undecided.

At this stage there are still many loose ends and undecided things yet to be designed that's one reason we have a target release of December.

Thanks all for your interest and comments - constructive comments are always welcome and responded to.

Special response to W. Gillard (about his post).

I also note the post by Wayne Gillard whom it seems does not have the gumption to put his name to a post. I am very dissapointed and also dismayed that someone is able to "buy" the use of such amazing corporate names like Bally and Williams (copyright The Pinball Factory) and do ZERO with it? What a shame - Wayne my suggestion (for what it's worth) either make good use of them, collaborate with someone who has the skills to be able to (such as myself) because it seems you lack these skills or SHUT UP!

For the record Mr. Gillards comments do in fact accurately represent the note I sent to "legal@......." (AKA W. Gillard) and every word is true. You would have to be a fool in this day and age to not cover your donkey from fools!

Also for the record I sent an email to Mr. Gillard offering my sourcing and electronic skills & services in China to assist in the completion of his "Outback Adventure" pin about 2 or 3 years ago and never received a response? I assume his project will never happen - seems like Gary Stern was right all those years ago? What a shame Mr. Gillard chooses to make enemies rather than friends?

Thanks all for reading this far. Updates will be posted when I have them & full marks to the Coconut Island guys.

Cheers,

Mike Kalinowski
www.homepin.com
www.katanatrading.com

acejas
9th January 2009, 10:52 PM
Great info Mike. Good luck with the venture. Great to see you ar eusing your resources

ROLLERBALL
9th January 2009, 10:53 PM
Good luck..Im sure we will all be intersted in how it all goes...

Ballypinball
9th January 2009, 11:15 PM
Dear Mike.

We emailed you because you were offering pirate artwork on your mini pinballs.

You came back with the abuse and playing the go sue me I'm poor card.

We have our own lackys in China and India and our own Electronics Engineer without having to pay a middleman.

I notice you are using Drop targets which have a W logo on them, come up with your own parts and designs, you will not be able to base your project on Bally Williams parts in anyway.

Also visit the www.uspto.com and look up pinball patents, like we did before we bought the rights from Williams.

I suggest you run your business your way and I will run my business my way, as I am doing very well out of what we bought.

Like us you will find it impossible to obtain production qts of parts as most of the tooling is a closed shop, that's why we bought the rights to get access to the IP and parts suppliers.

Next time you order a heap of parts from overseas Distrubutors think about where they came from.

Ford Fairlane
9th January 2009, 11:15 PM
Anything that keeps pinball alive (and improves it) is ok in my books. I will certainly be keeping a close eye on this. Nice one Mike!!

ktm450
9th January 2009, 11:26 PM
you my friend, believe it or not....are a playtester !

sooner than you think !

i will be most interested in your comments/responses/opinion/bug tests(!) as you have not seen or played it at all and know something of pinball.

:D

regards

:DWOW! That makes me sound important :badgrin

I look forward to it mate :023:

Homepin
9th January 2009, 11:35 PM
Hello "Ballypinball" (I assume Wayne?)

Please let me respond:

"We have our own lackys in China and India and our own Electronics Engineer without having to pay a middleman."

Please review the email I sent to you years ago (if you actually saw it) - my services were offered to you for free! I am certainly not a *lacky* nor do I treat my Chinese staff as such.

"I notice you are using Drop targets which have a W logo on them, come up with your own parts and designs, you will not be able to base your project on Bally Williams parts in anyway."

I fully understand that - the DT used in one of our test rigs has a "generic" DT that was salvaged from a scrapped pin - we have no intention of using ANY art from ANY other manufacturer and really have no need to. It was left on as we never intended it to be seen by the public.

"Also visit the www.uspto.com and look up pinball patents, like we did before we bought the rights from Williams."

Thankyou for the info.

"I suggest you run your business your way and I will run my business my way, as I am doing very well out of what we bought."

I'm pleased to hear it.

"Like us you will find it impossible to obtain production qts of parts as most of the tooling is a closed shop, that's why we bought the rights to get access to the IP and parts suppliers."

I have my own factory contacts (in China) and I especially avoid those dealing within the industry already. They will make my own design parts to order and as you already know for peanuts!

"Next time you order a heap of parts from overseas Distrubutors think about where they came from."

I have all mine made in China - mostly by hand!

Wayne - I do appreciate the post from you and I do also appreciate that it is rather civil. I am certainly not - in any way - trying to undermine what you are doing, good luck to you in your ventures. It does seem to me (and many others as well) that you could be a little less aggressive in your approach to things.

Please let me assure you that we will not in any way be using any Bally/Williams artwork or patented items in our machine we simply have no need to. We have our own contacts and can make things work for 1/10 the price.

Cheers,

Mike Kalinowski

Fair Dinkum Dan
9th January 2009, 11:36 PM
Firstly, thanks for posting the update here, Mike. Very interesting stuff and I look forward to more updates down the track.

When I read the Pat Lawlor interview and saw your comment and then followed the link to your website, I was a bit surprised that you didn't hold out a little longer before releasing news of a BIY kit pinball. That is, because it is clear that is still in its early stages.

With the MDF playfield comment, I had a feeling it was just being used as a prototype for ease of use and was prompting you for confirmation.

Great looking pinball so far Mike and I look forward to more updates.

Lastly, with no disrespect to either Wayne or Mike, as I started this thread without the intention of it going south, can both parties please not start a debate online. If you must, please keep it off the forum and take it to emails or whatever.

Most people do not care who is in front, or who is better ( I could have used a different analogy, though I won't ;)), we just want to see people trying to do things for pinball and doing it in a professional manner at all times.

Please stay on topic.

Cheers,

Dan

Foot
9th January 2009, 11:40 PM
Thanks for that Dan

It will be interesting to see any new developments during the year :)

Keep us posted

Homepin
9th January 2009, 11:40 PM
That certainly is my intention Dan but certain things needed clarification and I trust that has now been done.

I had no intention of making any info public until we had a fully working prototype (still a few months away) but things change!

Cheers,

Mike Kalinowski

ANT68
9th January 2009, 11:40 PM
Keeping the dream alive sound good to me ,best of luck to you and your adventure, hope production happens in due time ,go hard and keep a positive attitude ,I'm quite sure there's heaps of members here that are all excited about this.
For the records fully assembled NIB suite me just fine .
Art work maybe Astro boy or something similar .

Ant

Arcade King
9th January 2009, 11:56 PM
That certainly is my intention Dan but certain things needed clarification and I trust that has now been done.

I had no intention of making any info public until we had a fully working prototype (still a few months away) but things change!

Cheers,

Mike Kalinowski

Thanks Mike and welcome to AA.
I think everybody here wishes you the best of luck and I hope you will keep us updated.

As Dan said keep this thread on track and positive.

prktkljokr
9th January 2009, 11:59 PM
I for one reckon its great that someone has the balls to do it, and do it in a economic climate like it is worldwide, I hope you do well and stick it to all who stand in your way :097: !
Good luck!

narf_
10th January 2009, 12:09 AM
i hope it goes well

can we at least keep the politics out of it and give it a go perhaps too. :unsure

Arcade King
10th January 2009, 12:11 AM
i hope it goes well

can we at least keep the politics out of it and give it a go perhaps too. :unsure

politics have no place here and should be kept in private and off this forum.

ANT68
10th January 2009, 12:14 AM
+1

Homepin
10th January 2009, 12:15 AM
Hello Narf,

I don't believe there are any politics involved here at all - it is purely business!

I am doing it for the fun of pinball certainly not for profit.

Cheers,

Mike Kalinowski

pinnies4me
10th January 2009, 12:24 AM
Hello Narf,

I don't believe there are any politics involved here at all - it is purely business!

I am doing it for the fun of pinball certainly not for profit.

Cheers,

Mike Kalinowski

Hey Mike, all the very best of luck! This is great news for the hobby side of pinball.

PS - I know a great theme and design that would work really well, and can be licensed really cheaply. It's set on a tropical island where the natives need to keep the lawns mowed in order to collects lots of coconuts for the Catalytic Converter... :)

narf_
10th January 2009, 12:25 AM
yeah mate

it was directed to the people that like to can the "little guy trying to have a go"

that was all. from what i see these days a idea comes up and some one is always there to shoot it down

sad but it does happen

good luck with it and keen to see OZ on the pinball map

Burra749
10th January 2009, 12:46 AM
I personally don't see how a BIY pinball could be viable.
Unless the pricing can be kept to a minimum, why would anyone bother.

I can understand for those wishing to build there own themed pinnie,which I imagine would be a limited market, & a lot of work, but with quality 2nd hand commercial machines available in the $2000-$2500 price range, how can you compete.:unsure

If pricing is kept to a minimum, surely quality would suffer.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud anyone whose prepared to have a go, & I hope you succeed, I just don't see it happening.:rolleyes

Homepin
10th January 2009, 12:58 AM
Hello Burra749,

As I said - I'm doing it for the fun of pinball (and electronics).

There are some who are very keen on the idea - even at high prices.

If you look at my original post the comments there make it clear I can have parts made in China for a pittance - that helps a lot!

I don't have a target sell price yet but it may be lower than you imagine.......

Cheers,

Mike Kalinowski

Burra749
10th January 2009, 01:06 AM
I myself am keen on the idea as I have my own theme in mind for a machine.;)
I will be keeping an eye on progress, and hope you produce something everyone can benefit from.:cool:

Fair Dinkum Dan
10th January 2009, 01:10 AM
I see Home Pinball trying to fill a niche market, where if the final product is good enough and appealing enough, there will be people who would like to tackle such a project as a "Build it Yourself" pinball. Somewhat similar to a restore, though with all new parts. Of course, this will depend on the quality of the build and parts being offered, along with what kit options will be available. Price, of course, will be a determining factor also.

In my view, there is still a lot of options that they will need to discuss on what will be the best way to market such an interesting project. To me, there are many ways they could run with this idea, as it will be offered in a "kit" format.

Cheers,

Dan

silverbak
10th January 2009, 01:30 AM
Mike,

Will the operating system be open source? And will you be able to customise the rules and introduce more features?

Homepin
10th January 2009, 01:37 AM
Hello silverbak,

The OS will be an "embedded" system the same as most SS games. I don't intend to release it at this stage as it will be game specific (we only have one "game" on the table at this stage). I dislike PC based OS (for this type of application) with some very good reasons.

The electronics are being designed to be "universal" as far as that is possible much like most manufacturers TRIED to do but (as they found) that is very difficult.

Many of our features on the game actually "look after themselves" and report back to the main MPU.

Maybe I should write a brief description of our approach to this project?.......watch this space.

Cheers,

Mike Kalinowski

Ando77
10th January 2009, 02:29 AM
[QUOTE=Homepin;245617]Hello silverbak,

The OS will be an "embedded" system the same as most SS games. I don't intend to release it at this stage as it will be game specific (we only have one "game" on the table at this stage). I dislike PC based OS (for this type of application) with some very good reasons.

The electronics are being designed to be "universal" as far as that is possible much like most manufacturers TRIED to do but (as they found) that is very difficult.

Many of our features on the game actually "look after themselves" and report back to the main MPU.

Maybe I should write a brief description of our approach to this project?.......watch this space.

Cheers,



Hi Mike,

The OS will Make or Break your dream !
also Build will count !!


Good Luck,
Ando

sparkythepinmonkey
10th January 2009, 03:43 AM
I could finally get a D E V O pinball machine

Yes! We must have a DE-VO pin! :)

Are we not men? We are pin-heads! :lol

Still waiting on a DEVO smiley..... Admins?! :x

Fish Tales
10th January 2009, 07:31 AM
Welcome Mike! It interests me that this kit may also be purchased in stages, it sounds like a fun and affordable way to do it. How many guys would like to build their own "new" pinball machine!
Mike can be pls see pics/video of the working prototype when its ready? A second choice of theme would be nice, is this practical though?

Like others have said, it would be great if interested parties could keep the public commentary civil.
:)

LOTR4U
10th January 2009, 11:42 AM
Healthy discussion is always welcomed here, not everyone will see eye to eye. The thread is moving along nicely.

Thanks for Joining and giving some details Mike on your project.

longreach
10th January 2009, 02:02 PM
I think perhaps a Build It Yourself would have a bigger niche market than simple restore projects, only because lots of people love the IDEA of restoring pinnys, but it really is an all-in project. Plus you will be spending heaps of time sourcing parts, researching what machines make viable restores etc etc etc. I reckon knowing you have all parts, and a comprohensive instruction manual, will attract more people to it... thats what I think anyways :) It all depends on the final product of course. How easy it is to do, lasting playability, parts, how fun the game is etc etc. I reckon it is an amazing prospect to have a go at though.

Ford Fairlane
10th January 2009, 02:13 PM
Im not sure about the idea of 1 theme though. Couldnt you have a generic playfield set up (so start with 1 layout, but the playfield art can be whatever theme you want.. not sure if it makes sense but i think i would like to choose my own art :unsure

busboy
11th January 2009, 11:40 AM
Looks like a great idea! Cant wait to see how this goes! Is there any time frame in mind atm?
PS- I love the theme you have in mind! Hope you include some "subway" pics or toys!

dmworking247
11th January 2009, 11:43 AM
Mike (Homepin),

Will you be likely to sell the invididual components as well?

Several of us on the forum have discussed the idea of scratch built pinballs before, and I for one am very keen on doing so, but one of the challenges I actually look forward to is the design of the 'theme' and the playfield layout.

As such, an option to buy the generic components (instead of official spares for machines I don't have), like power supplies, flippers, bumpers, targets, ramps entries etc would be fantastic.

elkor-alish
11th January 2009, 01:20 PM
Anything that keeps pinball alive (and improves it) is ok in my books. I will certainly be keeping a close eye on this. Nice one Mike!!

Agree 100%

I'm very interested in this project and will even go as far as to say I'll put my hand up for one.
A big part of the fun of pinball for me is the fault finding, repairing and building/reproducing parts. I get an enormous amount of satifaction in playing a machine I've just repaired or had a tinker with. So I can't imagine the feeling of having just assembled a whole machine and playing it for the first time.
Besides, I kind of like the idea of owning a rare machine. :D

Mike, is it too early to give an estimate on the amount of machine kits you'll produce for your first run?

DARBS
11th January 2009, 03:46 PM
Mike (Home Pin)

Sounds really interesting mate. I hope it all works out well for you. I will be keeping an eye on this space for the progress.
I will definently buy one if the price is right.

Prof
11th January 2009, 05:06 PM
I think the real interest would be in a pcb thats easily programmable or a pc based interface.

It would be nice to be able to drive 7 segment score displays or a lcd panel that the user could design a 'backglass' with artwork and the scores and whatever else they wanted displayed where they wanted it.

It could be used to replaced a damaged or irreplaceable cpu or for homebrew

I'd buy a few.

Also, you could sell predone tubs and a cpu for people to assemble.

Supply parts or people might have them themselves.

dalendie
11th January 2009, 09:40 PM
hadnt seen this vid before, looks like coconut is getting close?

YouTube - Coconut Island Home Made Pinball First Full Game (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7eUi2Ie-t7s&NR=1)


OMG!!!!! I WANT TO DO THAT!!!!!......... I now badly want to design & build my own pinball.......

I WANT, I WANT, I WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can't be THAT hard to do surely LOL....... (i'm joking i have a bit of an idea how hard it would be, but i still wana......)

that is cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arcade King
11th January 2009, 09:53 PM
I think the real interest would be in a pcb thats easily programmable or a pc based interface.

It would be nice to be able to drive 7 segment score displays or a lcd panel that the user could design a 'backglass' with artwork and the scores and whatever else they wanted displayed where they wanted it.

It could be used to replaced a damaged or irreplaceable cpu or for homebrew

I'd buy a few.

Also, you could sell predone tubs and a cpu for people to assemble.

Supply parts or people might have them themselves.

maybe you can take gyruss out of the mothballs :)

Nug
12th January 2009, 07:27 AM
if you wanted...the NPC toy interface can also drive a 7 seg and up to 100 millions worth !(i had envisiged it for timers/bonus totalisers built into playfields) ...but theres no reason not to be able to use it as master score rather than lcd... :unsure
cheapens it out a fair bit and design is easier to boot. just use crt monitor when using rule/switch set development editor and unplug when happy with your rules and sounds and switched to run mode.



regards

Emohawk
12th January 2009, 08:07 AM
OMG!!!!! I WANT TO DO THAT!!!!!......... I now badly want to design & build my own pinball.......

I WANT, I WANT, I WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can't be THAT hard to do surely LOL....... (i'm joking i have a bit of an idea how hard it would be, but i still wana......)

that is cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He has been building that one over some years now and still not finished. Looks nice but That playing field has been painted now. I bet this is not a easy thing to build your own from scratch creating all the game rules etc...

Nug
12th January 2009, 08:23 AM
He has been building that one over some years now and still not finished. Looks nice but That playing field has been painted now. I bet this is not a easy thing to build your own from scratch creating all the game rules etc...

Indeed it is not 'hard' as per se, but there is a lot of nitty gritty to do(i find fine tuning toys and rail layout fun however others may not !) and a boat load of parts to make.
it has been 19 months total and about 1 month to go, bearing in mind creating the operating system from scratch. The actual game creation part is probably half that...i will have something really nice to look at showing soon.

regards

hamish_nz
12th January 2009, 08:32 AM
cant wait to see it finished

Emohawk
12th January 2009, 08:45 AM
cant wait to see it finished

^^^ what he said.

@lien_Zed
12th January 2009, 08:58 AM
Hmm we should contact them, let them know AA's interest.
Anyone wanna do this?

i did this a few days ago...

Mike the man behind it all is still working on it. i him know about this web site

stuba
12th January 2009, 09:06 AM
good on you mike. it would be great top see a 'kit' that let the punters create their own pinball with their own theme. all the best.
:)

Fair Dinkum Dan
12th January 2009, 11:50 AM
Hello Pinball Community,

I have noticed this thread at AA about our project and followed it with much interest. It's good to know that enthusiasts are curious about our product. Please let me give a little background (apologies in advance for the long post).

I am an electronics engineer that designs and makes small projects (normally one off or only a handful) for various companies around Australia - they call on me when others refuse to do it (either too small, little profit etc). I have also been involved in the amusement industry on and off for 25 years. I have a small office and staff in China and have access to electronic components/motors/switches/printing/metal stamping etc at crazy prices so it is possible the finished product will be priced very attractively (as yet unknown) yet still actually be built in Australia.

This pinball project started about 2 years ago as a father/son bonding project. My son is a graphic artist who specialises in cartoon (hand drawn) so this looked like a perfect project. I figured to use so much time on such a complex project it would be a waste not to take it further.

I had intended to "lay low" until we had some more concrete information to offer as things are still very much in their infancy. Let me give you a VERY brief update but it is also very much subject to change. Items are in no particular order.

(1) Theme is not yet firmly decided - possibly "Grafitti" as we have used this to date for setup of PF layout.

(2) Initial (small) run will be 220/240 volt machines for AU/NZ.

(3) I note comments about MDF being used. This is for prototyping only as it is "quick and dirty" but functional. It is planned to use CNC routed plywood for the finished item. The CNC router is currently in transit from my China office. Playfield will be screen printed on plastic overlay with clear on top (remember - home use, not heavy duty commercial) to keep costs down.

(4) Playfield plastics will be screen printed in house and laser cut on our own industrial laser machine. We already have these skills and this equipment.

(5) Mechanisms are loosely based on other brand mechs - after all, there are only so many ways you can do something!

(6) Coils are interchangeable with WMS parts.

(7) Many "industry standard" parts are used as they are not subject to copyright - such as generic flipper bats (no logo) PBparts/posts/rubbers/targets etc.

(8) We design ALL electronics in house - including manufacture and assembly of the printed circuit boards in Australia.

(9) It is planned to sell the machine with all major assemblys assembled and tested individually, wiring harness fully assembled and tested.

(10) Cabinet art will be fixed in place to the cabinet parts ready to assemble.

(11) Some thought is being given to selling the kit in stages - cabinet, mechanicals, electronics??? As yet undecided.

At this stage there are still many loose ends and undecided things yet to be designed that's one reason we have a target release of December.

Thanks all for your interest and comments.


Thanks all for reading this far. Updates will be posted when I have them.

Cheers,

Mike Kalinowski
www.homepin.com
www.katanatrading.com

Due to a few people asking the same questions again, I have bumped Mike's original post here and highlighted when he thinks the kits will be ready (December 2009). Also, Mike will update Aussie Arcade when more information is ready for release.

Cheers,

Dan

pinnies4me
12th January 2009, 05:22 PM
not a easy thing to build your own from scratch creating all the game rules etc...

Now that all the development work has been done, the game specific rules is actually the easiest part.

As nuggy mentioned, you need to look at the time in perspective. Not only was the actual game built, but the whole operating system was designed, built and tested, base software for the operating system written, and game specific software written. A lot more than half the time was spent creating the backbone to all of this, all the while slowly assembling different parts of the game as needed to test further hardware & software. Even things like designing an insert router took place as part of the Coconut Island development. And a lot of beer was consumed to power this all, and even "full on" production nights required several quite long breaks for games of White Water etc! ;)

Oh, and nug left out the bit where he had a new house built and did all of the usual garden etc establishment over the same time period! I am amazed that so much still got done in the limited non-working hours.

The net result is that once Coconut Island is completed, depending on motivation and time, the next game could be done in a matter of months. Software sits there ready to use, techniques have been learned and refined, so the next game would be more about actual physical construction as all the base work to do this over and over again has been completed. We have already collected heaps of artwork and toys for that next game, and I am pretty excited about it, the theme is a killer!!!

LOTR4U
12th January 2009, 06:39 PM
Due to a few people asking the same questions again, I have bumped Mike's original post here and highlighted when he thinks the kits will be ready (December 2009). Also, Mike will update Aussie Arcade when more information is ready for release.

Cheers,

Dan

Yeah I can't wait till some more information is available.

Looking good so far.

Edit: Just double checked and seen a new pic and a vid.

http://www.homepin.com/pics/nightbumpers.jpg

YouTube - nightdt

cool lights :badgrin

pinnies4me
12th January 2009, 06:42 PM
Looking good so far.

Sure is, can't wait to see the outome of Mike's effort.

Fish Tales
12th January 2009, 07:11 PM
this thread has had over 1700 views allready....... that pretty much shows alot of interest in this
:)

dalendie
12th January 2009, 10:05 PM
Indeed it is not 'hard' as per se, but there is a lot of nitty gritty to do(i find fine tuning toys and rail layout fun however others may not !) and a boat load of parts to make.
it has been 19 months total and about 1 month to go, bearing in mind creating the operating system from scratch. The actual game creation part is probably half that...i will have something really nice to look at showing soon.

regards

:sm1::sm1::sm1::sm1::sm1: Dude, you are the master..... I'm in Awe ......

despite the very 'girly' excitement shown the first time :) i figured it would not be a matter of just saying

'oh cool im gunna do that' and then ...HEY PRESTO...... i have one sitting in the lounge room. but it serioulsy sounds like a bloody fantastic idea and i have contemplated the idea a few times......... besides i like a challenge:D i'm stubborn and never admit defeat sooooooooo here-in lie the foundations for starting an utterly unrealistic project, that most people would think im mentally challenged for even contemplating :)

The idea is becoming more and more appealing.

The idea of coming up with my own concept, designing the parts doing the art work etc........ damn that would be awesome, i bet you have loved that part, no matter how frustrating it may seem.

i can definatly relate to the whole 'its mine' idea, the satisfaction of knowing that it is your concept from woe to go.........

NICE!!!!!

Yes the BIY kit sounds like it might be a better start for a begginer like me (and i will be watching this thread closely, as all DIY kits leave room for artistic licence dont they :badgrin.......
.................but whats the fun in learning to swim in the kiddie pool when you can dive head first into the ocean and cross your fingers :unsure;)

dmworking247
12th January 2009, 10:24 PM
.................but whats the fun in learning to swim in the kiddie pool when you can dive head first into the ocean and cross your fingers :unsure;)

Living to tell the tale? :unsure

:badgrin

DKong
12th January 2009, 11:14 PM
Looks like the best thing that has happened to the backyarder pinball head in a long while( or first time)
The ability to customise your game with the software would be awesome ( as said before selling the boards to run the game you want :D)
If you get the software down pat I'm sure you will have many DIYP dudes buying your kits.
Hope to see a finished product soon :D



.................but whats the fun in learning to swim in the kiddie pool when you can dive head first into the ocean and cross your fingers :unsure;)

Something about broken backs and unforeseen rocks oh and sharks, give me floaties :lol

LOTR4U
13th January 2009, 08:24 AM
This is getting hard to follow, the title is about Homepin's DIY project so can we stick to that info only.

Just makes who is refering to what easier to work.

Homepin
13th January 2009, 09:48 AM
Hello All,

Thanks for your interest. I certainly am interested in all comments and suggestions so please feel free to keep ideas and constructive criticism coming.

A few people have mentioned artwork on this thread and some have emailed me. As I said earlier my son Grant is a very talented cartoonist. I thought I would post a couple of his drawings here so that readers can see what sort of art "style" to expect with our machine.

Cheers,

Mike

LOTR4U
13th January 2009, 09:53 AM
Sweet. :D

pinnies4me
13th January 2009, 10:14 AM
This is getting hard to follow, the title is about Homepin's DIY project so can we stick to that info only.

Just makes who is refering to what easier to work.

Fair enough. Although I see a major synergy between what has been done for Coconut Island and what Homepin is doing that just might...

In deference to your comments though we won't post those thoughts.

Cheers!

LOTR4U
13th January 2009, 10:45 AM
Fair enough. Although I see a major synergy between what has been done for Coconut Island and what Homepin is doing that just might...

In deference to your comments though we won't post those thoughts.

Cheers!

PFM,

Thanks for the PM and making clear what you were saying. Some of the posts previous I don't know what project is being refered too hence my post about trying to keep on the subject.

How about you and Nug update the CI thread with some info as to where that project is currently at.

shootar75
13th January 2009, 01:46 PM
devo pinnie would be great

but

a WARRIORS pinnie would be the ultimate.

Nug
13th January 2009, 02:09 PM
devo pinnie would be great

but

a WARRIORS pinnie would be the ultimate.

as in the 70's gang film ?!!!

shootar75
13th January 2009, 02:41 PM
as in the 70's gang film ?!!!


thats the one! As each level progresses you could waste a gang - orphans, turnbull a/c's, baseball furies, the lizzies, the rogues and finally up against the gramercy riffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WARRIORS, COME OUT TO PLAY - E - AYYYYY

LOTR4U
13th January 2009, 02:51 PM
Would be so sweet to have a DIY machine that you could add your own artwork too, rule set etc.

That would be fun as hell to play with.

Nug
13th January 2009, 02:57 PM
thats the one! As each level progresses you could waste a gang - orphans, turnbull a/c's, baseball furies, the lizzies, the rogues and finally up against the gramercy riffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WARRIORS, COME OUT TO PLAY - E - AYYYYY

oh shit !!!!

what about the bottles on fingers....multiball ?!

ryan, ive been trying to sell the idea for 2 years now :unsure

hamish_nz
13th January 2009, 02:59 PM
Big Boys Lego :tomato

shootar75
13th January 2009, 03:06 PM
oh shit !!!!

what about the bottles on fingers....multiball ?!

ryan, ive been trying to sell the idea for 2 years now :unsure

ohh yeah that would be the sweet alright.

do u have the game?

Nug
13th January 2009, 03:32 PM
ohh yeah that would be the sweet alright.

do u have the game?

i assume you mean coconut island..yes i have that game ?!

shootar75
13th January 2009, 03:36 PM
i assume you mean coconut island..yes i have that game ?!

nah the warriors. had it on xbox

Nug
13th January 2009, 03:40 PM
i didnt even know it existed, no, this would be funny to see however :D

shootar75
13th January 2009, 03:48 PM
its a corker kickn the shit outta people:lol :lol:lol:lol

dalendie
13th January 2009, 08:36 PM
This is getting hard to follow, the title is about Homepin's DIY project so can we stick to that info only.

Just makes who is refering to what easier to work.

Ill say?????

Appology's for any offence/inappropriate distraction but being that I am (fundimentally & genetically) female, my brain honestly fails to distinguish between the (apparent) two topics, reason being.............one guy is designing and creating a pinball from scratch to build himself....... and the other guy is designing and creating a pinball from scratch for others to build..... same same?? :unsure

Seriously there was no sarcasm or disrespect intended at all, just genuine confusion...........

however in an attempt to rectify said distraction..........


AWESOME IDEA!!!! There is quite obviously a market for it as this thread has shown, with this being but a small speck of the 'gaming' industry in australia only, so the brain swells with the thought of where else this may go............

To be able to create a personal concept would be good, or change minor details, but then most people willing to take on a BIY anything, have the confidence/creativity required to do that anyway regardless of the original theme........

in short, My thoughts of building my own pinball is being given life......... i want one!!!!!!

Nug
13th January 2009, 08:56 PM
Ill say?????

Appology's for any offence/inappropriate distraction but being that I am (fundimentally & genetically) female, my brain honestly fails to distinguish between the (apparent) two topics, reason being.............one guy is designing and creating a pinball from scratch to build himself....... and the other guy is designing and creating a pinball from scratch for others to build..... same same?? :unsure

Seriously there was no sarcasm or disrespect intended at all, just genuine confusion...........

however in an attempt to rectify said distraction..........


AWESOME IDEA!!!! There is quite obviously a market for it as this thread has shown, with this being but a small speck of the 'gaming' industry in australia only, so the brain swells with the thought of where else this may go............

To be able to create a personal concept would be good, or change minor details, but then most people willing to take on a BIY anything, have the confidence/creativity required to do that anyway regardless of the original theme........

in short, My thoughts of building my own pinball is being given life......... i want one!!!!!!


and indeed you shall have ! :D

LOTR4U
13th January 2009, 09:32 PM
Ill say?????

Appology's for any offence/inappropriate distraction but being that I am (fundimentally & genetically) female, my brain honestly fails to distinguish between the (apparent) two topics, reason being.............one guy is designing and creating a pinball from scratch to build himself....... and the other guy is designing and creating a pinball from scratch for others to build..... same same?? :unsure

Seriously there was no sarcasm or disrespect intended at all, just genuine confusion...........

however in an attempt to rectify said distraction..........


AWESOME IDEA!!!! There is quite obviously a market for it as this thread has shown, with this being but a small speck of the 'gaming' industry in australia only, so the brain swells with the thought of where else this may go............

To be able to create a personal concept would be good, or change minor details, but then most people willing to take on a BIY anything, have the confidence/creativity required to do that anyway regardless of the original theme........

in short, My thoughts of building my own pinball is being given life......... i want one!!!!!!

There is no big deal and it wasn't my intention to create one.

Its simple, when you get 1 thread and mulitple conversations going on about 2 topics in the 1 thread it gets hard to follow.

Yes, there are a number of home pins being made thats not the point. My thoughts were that this thread is about 1 particular project not prjoects in general.

Its not hard starting a new thread. ;) theres plenty to go around. I have asked PFM and Nug to update the CI project so we can follow the latest updates.

Brad
15th January 2009, 10:23 AM
This project would seriously kick arse if you could definitely customise the software. I then forsee, people making up different artwork themes and then changing the ruleset dependent on the theme being played. An almost modular pinball. Put me down for one fo those!

Brad

splat
23rd June 2012, 09:15 PM
So, what happened? Nothing on homepin site to give me a clue.

Homepin
23rd June 2012, 10:15 PM
So, what happened? Nothing on homepin site to give me a clue.

So your first post on this site is to drag up a thread from 2009???

There is an email address on my site that you could have used to ask this question.

Replay
23rd June 2012, 10:21 PM
might be a pimped out Crocodile Hunter (DIY) :lol

David_AVD
24th June 2012, 05:35 PM
I must say I've wondered the same thing. I check Mike's site now and then but haven't seen any news about it. (unless I missed it?)

Homepin
24th June 2012, 05:48 PM
I must say I've wondered the same thing. I check Mike's site now and then but haven't seen any news about it. (unless I missed it?)

The original concept was killed off by legal threats from 'our friend' in Melbourne who is no longer of much interest to the industry (IMO).

I have been paying rent on a small factory for many years now with the aim of ressurecting the project but I will be keeping it all very much under wraps until ready to go and that won't be for quite some time yet......

Fish Tales
24th June 2012, 05:49 PM
So your first post on this site is to drag up a thread from 2009???


That's a fair question, a very different first post indeed. Still, alot of us do wonder what happened to that project.

edit: Mike answered whilst i was typing this lol

David_AVD
24th June 2012, 06:51 PM
The original concept was killed off by legal threats from 'our friend' in Melbourne who is no longer of much interest to the industry (IMO).

Oh, sorry to hear that. I must pay more attention here! :redface

Anyway, thanks for the update Mike. :)

prktkljokr
24th June 2012, 07:16 PM
I wouldnt think our friend in Melbourne would be much of a threat any more :unsure, plus its not if he has any legal rights to stop you from making a DIY Pinball machine, I thought he would have been more of a problem to your recent pinball replacement boards :confused:

blue95
27th June 2012, 08:59 PM
Good to see the project is still ticking along

Zamperla
9th December 2014, 08:32 PM
any update on this project?

Homepin
9th December 2014, 08:35 PM
any update on this project?

Watch this space - oh, and for the record it is VERY unlikely to be a Thunderbirds kit.....

delarge
9th December 2014, 09:38 PM
Watch this space - oh, and for the record it is VERY unlikely to be a Thunderbirds kit.....

I'd be interested to hear about a pinball kit in any form.

Would be awesome to get a kit and then make my own custom machine.

Other dream....China trip and Homepin factory tour when the games are coming down the line?
:D


Cheers!
Adam.

stuzza
10th December 2014, 08:48 AM
Watch this space - oh, and for the record it is VERY unlikely to be a Thunderbirds kit.....

Yes the rumour is the new kit pinball will be based on the exclusive "Ebay/Paypal" theme. Each part of the pinball will be ordered separately with no guarantee of delivery. Every time you put a $1 in the machine to play you get charged a ball drop fee and a final game score fee which is automatically charged to your paypal account. Ofcourse, at any time the player can change their mind and request a refund for their credit from Homepin via paypal as long as they have a really good reason, such as they changed their mind!!! :)

Johns-Arcade
10th December 2014, 09:14 AM
Watch this space - oh, and for the record it is VERY unlikely to be a Thunderbirds kit.....

Hmm... does it involve girls with Purple hair? ;)

Regards,

Johns-Arcade

Keeno
2nd January 2015, 11:24 AM
Girls with purple hair? Lol, that would be good, I would definitely buy one of those!!!

How BIY is BIY? Would the cabinet come with decals applied? Would circuit boards be populated, or blank boards and bags of components? Would the wiring looms be assembled or would the be rolls of wires and bags of molex connectors, crimp pins, cable ties and spiral wrap?

Either way it's an awesome concept and dependant on the title/s available I would be in for sure!! My preference would be the less assembled the better.

Homepin
2nd January 2015, 11:37 AM
Likely to be completed cabinet but decals NOT applied.

PCBs fully populated and tested. Wiing harnesses fully assembled with all connectors in place.

Major mechanisms assembled and tested.

Fish Tales
2nd January 2015, 11:50 AM
I thought this canned as well, good to hear it will :-)

Homepin
2nd January 2015, 01:35 PM
I thought this canned as well, good to hear it will :-)

Not canned fully ONLY for licenced machines as the legal aspects are far too complex so I dropped that. Unlicenced themes, different story and we have some beauties in the works (IMO).

Keeno
2nd January 2015, 02:35 PM
Likely to be completed cabinet but decals NOT applied.

PCBs fully populated and tested. Wiing harnesses fully assembled with all connectors in place.

Major mechanisms assembled and tested.

Cheers for the info, this will be awesome.

Zzap
2nd January 2015, 07:31 PM
Sounds great!

Riv
28th April 2015, 02:41 PM
Looks good Im eager to see the final cost.

Homepin
28th April 2015, 02:48 PM
Looks good Im eager to see the final cost.

So am I - the costing process when making any product in China is practically impossible to know until you have actually made the product - that might rub accountants the wrong way but it's a fact.

Riv
28th April 2015, 03:04 PM
Geez thanks for the quick reply Homepin.

I only came across this today read the thread from start to finish got a bit excited at first then a bit down when the project looked like it was canned but now im back up again.

Hope to see fial product soon.

Cheers

ukexpat71
5th May 2015, 02:22 PM
Hi Guys,
Just to let you know I recently built my own cabinet and the guys at Lifetime did all the cuts.
I sent them an email bases on the specs of a widebody cab with custom backbox and it came to $197
www.lifetime.net.au

webster

Homepin
5th May 2015, 02:47 PM
Hi Guys,
Just to let you know I recently built my own cabinet and the guys at Lifetime did all the cuts.
I sent them an email bases on the specs of a widebody cab with custom backbox and it came to $197
www.lifetime.net.au

webster

What material did they make it from and what thickness?

Gemini2544
6th May 2015, 12:34 PM
Lifetime did all the cuts it came to $197
Did they use MDF of Plywood?

ukexpat71
7th May 2015, 01:54 PM
I got it in 15mm plywood and was about $30 more expensive than 16mm mdf

Gemini2544
7th May 2015, 02:29 PM
I got it in 15mm plywood and was about $30 more expensive than 16mm mdf
GOOD, Plywood is much stronger & true to Pinball machines. Good call!

Riv
9th August 2015, 11:27 AM
Hey Homepin hows the project coming along? Iv been checking the web site and theres no updates good or bad.

Cheers

Homepin
9th August 2015, 06:11 PM
Hey Homepin hows the project coming along? Iv been checking the web site and theres no updates good or bad.

Cheers

I keep the TAG thread updated with stuff on here and my Facebook page with more general things:

facebook.com/HomepinPinball

bjmate
18th August 2015, 02:03 PM
This would be a great project me thinks.


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