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gunigoogoo
19th July 2006, 01:24 PM
I'm just trying to work out what sort of demand there is out there for some stuff. I need to work out if it's worth the investment to become a distributor for some of the overseas suppliers but it will cost some bucks to start up as they need me to buy 5 of everything up front. If you're like me and sick of getting nailed by some of the big boys price-wise, it may be worth it.

Anyway, this is the stuff I need to buy 5 each of upfront:

FH translite
FH plastics
FH cab decals
EATMP cab decals
FT cab decals
MM cab decals
HS2 cab decals
WH2O cab decals
WW cab decals
Slugfest cab decals
Slugfest cpos

Do you think I'll be able to move it easily? (the price will savagely undercut the big boys)

busboy
19th July 2006, 05:04 PM
Im in the market for some Getaway decals at the right price!

gunigoogoo
19th July 2006, 05:10 PM
Im in the market for some Getaway decals at the right price!
Is $250 the right price?

garuda
19th July 2006, 05:32 PM
If the price is right, I'm interested in the Fish Tales decals.

Shock_And_Awe
19th July 2006, 07:48 PM
I'll put myself down for a set of FT at $250. Does your source/contact have Bram Stoker Dracula?

busboy
19th July 2006, 08:49 PM
Is $250 the right price?

OH YEAH! Put me down!

4_ur_amusement
19th July 2006, 10:29 PM
sounds great a word of warning however cheap aftermarket full cab decal kits that are aftermarket all together are not worth shit i bought 4 sets for my getaways and to be honest they are exactly that cheap shit copies and very easy to spot the heavy gauge of the original williams makes a big difference i donr know about the rest but unless you saw them up front id give the ft and getaway a big miss save up a little extra there is a place in the states that do the getaway for $270 us yeah its a bit more but the proof is in the finished product think of it this way way go to the expense and time of doing up a getaway for example only to butcher your work in the finish by a cheap set of stickers im not saying these are dodgy im just saying check them out first

gunigoogoo
20th July 2006, 12:48 AM
sounds great a word of warning however cheap aftermarket full cab decal kits that are aftermarket all together are not worth shit i bought 4 sets for my getaways and to be honest they are exactly that cheap shit copies and very easy to spot the heavy gauge of the original williams makes a big difference i donr know about the rest but unless you saw them up front id give the ft and getaway a big miss save up a little extra there is a place in the states that do the getaway for $270 us yeah its a bit more but the proof is in the finished product think of it this way way go to the expense and time of doing up a getaway for example only to butcher your work in the finish by a cheap set of stickers im not saying these are dodgy im just saying check them out first
These are from a well known source in the US who is famous for printing cabinet decals. I'm getting a distributors discount if I buy so many from him.

frs
20th July 2006, 08:55 AM
If you get it up and running, and the supplier does Addams decals, I'd probly be in the market down the track.

Not right now though

gunigoogoo
20th July 2006, 09:41 AM
If the price is right, I'm interested in the Fish Tales decals.
I did some rough calculations and came up with this:

Fish Tales - $360
Getaway High Speed 2 - $275
Whirlwind - $360
White Water - $355
Medieval Madness - $375
Fun House - $355
Elvira - $380
Slugfest - $360
Funhouse plastics set - $150

These are way cheaper than anything in the eastern states.

I stress, this is very rough so don't hold me to these. They include GST and postage and I will be making peanuts from them.

This is also provided that the supplier doesn't require me to buy too many of them as I don't really have that sort of cash lying around.

I'm only investigating at the moment so please no messages asking when it will be up and running. This may amount to nothing but I want to investigate fully before committing to anything. If you want to suggest what the more popular items will be or what you will definitely be interested in buying, please go ahead. I welcome your input.

Cheers

gunigoogoo
20th July 2006, 12:58 PM
I'll put myself down for a set of FT at $250. Does your source/contact have Bram Stoker Dracula?
Not available. Apparently you need a license from the Stoker's heirs to produce this.

4_ur_amusement
20th July 2006, 07:14 PM
maybe when you actually have one i got my first from a good source too and they were shit

NMD
20th July 2006, 07:41 PM
Are you sourcing any of this stuff from phoenixarcade.com ? Just wondering who is running the artwork. Are the funhouse plastics NAPPA or TPF ?

Shock_And_Awe
20th July 2006, 07:50 PM
I was told Mr Pinball sold FT decals for $375?? Just looked online but couldn't see them but $360 does not seem that cheap. Marco has FT for USD279

gunigoogoo
20th July 2006, 08:36 PM
Are you sourcing any of this stuff from phoenixarcade.com ? Just wondering who is running the artwork. Are the funhouse plastics NAPPA or TPF ?
All that gear I listed was from Phoenixarcade.


I was told Mr Pinball sold FT decals for $375?? Just looked online but couldn't see them but $360 does not seem that cheap. Marco has FT for USD279
And herein lies the problem. They will only give me a 20% discount as a distributor so it's going to be hard to compete. I'm working on it.

NMD
20th July 2006, 08:40 PM
All that gear I listed was from Phoenixarcade
Sweet i may be in for a set of WH20 art then

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 08:29 AM
I was told Mr Pinball sold FT decals for $375?? Just looked online but couldn't see them but $360 does not seem that cheap. Marco has FT for USD279
$279 US = $372 AU (assuming 75c to the $1). Then add postage, currency conversion fees etc and you're probably looking at close to $400 by the time you get it here. My price is $360 - 10% cheaper. Still not good enough? Do you want me to make a loss then? I don't want to make a living out of this but I'm not a charity either.


maybe when you actually have one i got my first from a good source too and they were shit
Who was the source?

markc
21st July 2006, 12:07 PM
$279 US = $372 AU (assuming 75c to the $1). Then add postage, currency conversion fees etc and you're probably looking at close to $400 by the time you get it here. My price is $360 - 10% cheaper. Still not good enough? Do you want me to make a loss then? I don't want to make a living out of this but I'm not a charity either.


Who was the source?


tony
you need to be carful here as mr pinball also has 20% and 30% specails like know he has 20% off everything till 23rd
I would just buy for myself If I was you Unless you can pre sell them seems alot of cash, It could take you a while to get your $$ back and at only 20% markup you using you need to sell 4 sets of each to get your own for free.

and didnt someone on here say they can get them $250.00 in Brisbane

got a file off a pinball artwork site for the TZ decals and took to a printer and he said $250 for all 5 decals


most printers will do them if you a set to copy

mark

NMD
21st July 2006, 12:28 PM
Theres a few things you have to ask with a $250 set of TZ decals though

Are they silkscreened or inkjet printed?
What type of vinyl adhesive is used?
Is the artwork from original films?

I guess you pay for peace of mind through phoenixarcade because you know the stuff is top notch and printed using originals films

Wheres it say hes marking up by 20%? The prices look retail to me... :unsure

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 01:14 PM
tony
you need to be carful here as mr pinball also has 20% and 30% specails like know he has 20% off everything till 23rd
mark
Yeah but what happens after the 23rd? Back to over inflated prices again.
This stuff from phoenixarcade is top notch, not some dodgy reprint from your local printer. I suppose it's a case of you get what you pay for.

Shock_And_Awe
21st July 2006, 01:52 PM
$279 US = $372 AU (assuming 75c to the $1). Then add postage, currency conversion fees etc and you're probably looking at close to $400 by the time you get it here. My price is $360 - 10% cheaper. Still not good enough? Do you want me to make a loss then? I don't want to make a living out of this but I'm not a charity either.
For ****s sake you come on here asking for input and asking if your prices would get you some business. If you think people will buy from you to save 10% over a well known supplier then go for it.....****, what do I care??

NMD
21st July 2006, 02:01 PM
This stuff from phoenixarcade is top notch, not some dodgy reprint from your local printer. I suppose it's a case of you get what you pay for.
Youd have to see the local print job before you wrote it off though, who knows it could be top notch also, i think the main thing is the art source

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 02:12 PM
For ****s sake you come on here asking for input and asking if your prices would get you some business. If you think people will buy from you to save 10% over a well known supplier then go for it.....****, what do I care??
Obviously you don't. Thanks for your input. You've been a big help.

4_ur_amusement
21st July 2006, 07:44 PM
is it that time of the month or what

Maverick
21st July 2006, 08:00 PM
For ****s sake you come on here asking for input and asking if your prices would get you some business. If you think people will buy from you to save 10% over a well known supplier then go for it.....****, what do I care??
Shock, youve been around long enough to know not to post shit like this to pesci otherwise duck for cover :lol surprised by his mild response maybe he's still winding up:lol

Shock_And_Awe
21st July 2006, 08:20 PM
is it that time of the month or what
smells that way on this thread

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 08:25 PM
Shock, youve been around long enough to know not to post shit like this to pesci otherwise duck for cover :lol surprised by his mild response maybe he's still winding up:lol
Not worth the effort. The guy already made himself look like a tool by his response. Doesn't need any help from me.

Maverick
21st July 2006, 08:42 PM
Not worth the effort. The guy already made himself look like a tool by his response. Doesn't need any help from me.
:lol oh c'mon kitty we all know who the real tool is now don't we :lol

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 08:43 PM
:lol oh c'mon kitty we all know who the real tool is now don't we :lol
That would be you perhaps:unsure

Viper
21st July 2006, 09:03 PM
children, children, children. Try getting back on topic folks!

Shock_And_Awe
21st July 2006, 09:14 PM
ok back on topic......alright well I reckon if you had a good rapport with the guys on this forum you might sell some to them. If you plan to sell to the general public then I reckon your prices need to be very sharp (more than 10% cheaper)otherwise they are more likely to buy from a reputable supplier rather than take the risk of spending these sort of $$s with someone unknown.
If you're not confident with either then it's a lot of money to outlay for a potentially small return.
Personally I wouldn't buy from you but that's another story isn't it:unsure

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 09:17 PM
Personally I wouldn't buy from you but that's another story isn't it:unsure
Personally, I wouldn't sell to you either. :lol

4_ur_amusement
21st July 2006, 09:17 PM
na first time i let it slide due to the fact he was a newbie and new **** all but now its just getting boring son you need to know that sometimes you are talking to people who own machines and have done so for years service their own machines and clearly buy parts so they then are speaking from experence pinball collectors tend to know who and what is around and when you have collected,restored and sold as many pins as some have around here maybe you will then of earned the right to say shit like that but how many pinnies do you own ?? 1? maybe when you have bought ten and restored at least a couple untill then watch and learn the adults are talking

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 09:23 PM
na first time i let it slide due to the fact he was a newbie and new **** all but now its just getting boring son you need to know that sometimes you are talking to people who own machines and have done so for years service their own machines and clearly buy parts so they then are speaking from experence pinball collectors tend to know who and what is around and when you have collected,restored and sold as many pins as some have around here maybe you will then of earned the right to say shit like that but how many pinnies do you own ?? 1? maybe when you have bought ten and restored at least a couple untill then watch and learn the adults are talking
You've been waiting for a chance to have a go haven't you? Just can't help yourself. I see you've woken from your slumber. You learnt to use that camera yet? Spare me the professional talk smartarse. Who do you think you are? God's gift to pinnies? Give me a break. You're just full of your own self importance aren't you. I'll send you 30c so you can call someone who cares about what you have to say.

Shock_And_Awe
21st July 2006, 09:32 PM
You've been waiting for a chance to have a go haven't you? Just can't help yourself. I see you've woken from your slumber. You learnt to use that camera yet? Spare me the professional talk smartarse. Who do you think you are? God's gift to pinnies? Give me a break. You're just full of your own self importance aren't you. I'll send you 30c so you can call someone who cares about what you have to say.
I know someone that can't help themselves:lol ....oh ok include me in that too:lol What a legend!

Maverick
21st July 2006, 09:34 PM
sorry I had something I wanted to say but can't remember so for now I'll just say .......:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

4_ur_amusement
21st July 2006, 09:34 PM
id like to know how many pinballs do you own ??

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 09:35 PM
sorry I had something I wanted to say but can't remember so for now I'll just say .......:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
So you passed Grade 1 yet?

4_ur_amusement
21st July 2006, 09:35 PM
and as for sending me 30 cent why dont i send you 30 cents to blow on that lame arse money pit you bought

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 09:37 PM
id like to know how many pinballs do you own ??
I'd like to know how many brain cells you have. Probably less than I have pinballs.


and as for sending me 30 cent why dont i send you 30 cents to blow on that lame arse money pit you bought
Jealous?

4_ur_amusement
21st July 2006, 09:38 PM
as long as i have more than one nice choice better than a getaway hey ?? give yourself an uppercut

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 09:40 PM
as long as i have more than one nice choice better than a getaway hey ?? give yourself an uppercut
You mind translating that to English?

Shock_And_Awe
21st July 2006, 09:41 PM
ok so who wants to send pesce their money for decals.

Mate here's a link for a forum that love to have a good bitch
http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.pinball?lnk=lr
you'll fit right in:x

4_ur_amusement
21st July 2006, 09:42 PM
what cant you read now ?? i guess you cant pick a good pinny either so its no suprise anyway best of luck to you what do you think your the only yuppie pinball collector ive seen ?? not by a long shot anyhow enjoy your night

mark dont waste your keyboard on this flea

Mickey Juice
21st July 2006, 09:47 PM
http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Fight%21/domesticEthug.jpg

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10656/CaptureWiz046.jpg

Though I'd get in before Pinny PArlour ;)

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 09:47 PM
ok so who wants to send pesce their money for decals.

Mate here's a link for a forum that love to have a good bitch
http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.pinball?lnk=lr
you'll fit right in:x
Gee thanks brainiac. That group has only been around for 14 years. A bit behind the times are we? Hello, anyone home? While you're at it, go do a search on some of the big local pinball suppliers. You might get a bit of a shock to your system about what the wider pinball community has to say about them.

Viper
21st July 2006, 09:51 PM
Keep it up (**** I sound like my dad 25 years ago)!

gunigoogoo
21st July 2006, 09:54 PM
what cant you read now ?? i guess you cant pick a good pinny either so its no suprise anyway best of luck to you what do you think your the only yuppie pinball collector ive seen ?? not by a long shot anyhow enjoy your night

mark dont waste your keyboard on this flea
Go back to your shitboxes that you have stacked up 5 deep. Checked for white ants lately?

Viper
21st July 2006, 09:59 PM
Go back to your shitboxes that you have stacked up 5 deep. Checked for white ants lately?
Warning not heeded........................GOOOONE!!!!!!

TATA kitty, suspended!

sneek
21st July 2006, 10:24 PM
Owned !

Was wondering when that was gonna happen... :lol

Viper
21st July 2006, 10:26 PM
Make than BANNED FOR LIFE! Keeps re-registering!

4_ur_amusement
21st July 2006, 11:02 PM
yep that needed to happen good call

Viper
21st July 2006, 11:04 PM
Not at all what we want here. But all he needed to do was heed the warnings and calm down. Re-registering just nailed the coffin shut!

4_ur_amusement
21st July 2006, 11:08 PM
i just dont know what his deal was

Viper
21st July 2006, 11:12 PM
i just dont know what his deal was
Whatever it was, you wern't helping! :confused:

4_ur_amusement
21st July 2006, 11:40 PM
well you just need to respect peoples experence

frs
22nd July 2006, 12:02 AM
**** didn't this thread blow up

But (sort of) back to the original topic .. that of pin decals, does anyone know if ANYONE out there is repro-ing Addams decals?

I think I"ve searched every ****ing supplier in the USA (alright not all, but a hell ofa lot) and no one seems to have them.

Would have thought they'd be easy to find .. there's 20,000 cabs out there after all, so the market must be there?? :unsure

terry007
22nd July 2006, 12:09 AM
Does anyone know what happened to www.pinball-artwork.com ?
Did Darksoul shut em down cos they had his Superman BG on there?:unsure

LOTR4U
22nd July 2006, 03:00 AM
Boyz,

I think this thread went pear shaped way to fast! Although kitty lost the plot and ached up some of you other boys were just as much in the thick of things you got to admit that. Again I stress the importance of some forum policy so people know what they can and can't do etc so this sort of thing is avoided. That way when people are warned by a mod they realise it means serious and not to diss it. amnyway pissed so I am trying to put a creditab;le case forward etc. :030: :030: :030:

Arcade King
22nd July 2006, 09:08 AM
You're All **** Heads!!!!!!!
****ING BUNCH OF SOOKS
:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

Viper
22nd July 2006, 11:01 AM
Make than BANNED FOR LIFE! Keeps re-registering!
Now he's had time to cool his heels I will be unbanning pescefritte tomorrow.

In future (the fact this shit even has to be said is what pisses me and many of the rest of us off):

edit. actually **** it I can't be bothered.