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mattbode1985
7th July 2006, 03:45 PM
Hey all,

Just wondering, is it possible to somehow split the screen for platformers for 2P so that that same screen can be viewed simultaneously from both sides of a cocktail unit?

Games like metal slug are a bit hard for the 2nd player to play upside down :)

Thanks,
Matt

rottenpig
7th July 2006, 03:55 PM
No. i don't know much about mame but i've never heard of anyone being able to do that.

elvis
7th July 2006, 05:09 PM
Just wondering, is it possible to somehow split the screen for platformers for 2P so that that same screen can be viewed simultaneously from both sides of a cocktail unit?
Yes. Someone has made a mirror-flip blitter for one of the MAME builds. It splits a vertical screen in two, and shows the same picture on both halves, oriented correctly for each player on the opposite side of the cabinet.

Let me google a bit and paste you a link...

[edit] Struggling to find the link. It was buried on BYOAC somewhere. Might make a post and ask if anyone can help.

mattbode1985
7th July 2006, 06:12 PM
Thanks for your help. I've been trying to look for ways too for a while... I guess I'll have to wait till I get (or make) an upright machine :)

RetroBorg
7th July 2006, 08:19 PM
Hey all,

Just wondering, is it possible to somehow split the screen for platformers for 2P so that that same screen can be viewed simultaneously from both sides of a cocktail unit?

Games like metal slug are a bit hard for the 2nd player to play upside down :)

Thanks,
Matt

What like this?

http://www.powermame.com/uploads/Features/lockiscock2.jpg

I believe Mame Plus may support this mode?

PowerMame intends to add this feature one day.

Here are some links regarding it:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=38312.0

http://www.powermame.com/pmwiki.php?n=Features.LokkisCocktailFix

Hope these links help, let us know if Mame Plus does do this as I'm currently building a cocktail table and would like to use this feature myself.

Retro

Davefjedi
7th July 2006, 08:30 PM
well smak me down and call me francine i never even thought about that what a fking great idea im intrested to guess it will not be supported in dos though

Savage
7th July 2006, 09:41 PM
How weird would that be, at the same time pretty cool...
Wouldn't it look squished on a arcade / normal monitor though?

Viper
7th July 2006, 10:06 PM
Remember most of those games are horizontal so they should actually look perfect like that on a vertical cocktail monitor, just really small (especially on a 14").

elvis
8th July 2006, 08:41 AM
What like this?
Champion! That's what I was looking for. I had a funny feeling one of the smaller MAME builds incorporated the effect in. Just couldn't remember which one!


Wouldn't it look squished on a arcade / normal monitor though?

Remember most of those games are horizontal so they should actually look perfect like that on a vertical cocktail monitor
Standard arcade monitor is 4:3 ratio. Split that in 2, and you've got 2 3:2 screens.

So no, they won't be in perfect ratio. If anything, the images will be stretched vertically (or squashe horizontally) by a tiny fraction. Probably not noticable however. People play games on widescreen TVs and with PAL borders all the time and don't notice.

Viper
8th July 2006, 05:23 PM
Yeah OK, not perfect, but looking at the screenshot it looks fine to me.

mattbode1985
8th July 2006, 07:32 PM
Yeh but doesnt matter if it isnt perfect sizing... i can just adjust the screen accordingly. This is exactly what im looking for :) Thanks for everbody's input ;)

elvis
8th July 2006, 09:59 PM
Yeah OK, not perfect, but looking at the screenshot it looks fine to me.
Sorry, my comment above came out a bit blunt.

I'm in the same boat as you. Sure it's not perfect, but it looks cool and is a neat idea for vertical cocktail users wanting to play horizontal 2P games. It's one of those little things that actually makes emulation worthwhile.

mattbode1985
10th July 2006, 09:04 PM
Found it in MamePlus. It is also now incorporated into the new build MAME 0.106u10.
Just set it in the video section in the GUI Menu and away you go!
Some cool new video options in the Video menu available now... rotate, screen modes, etc. very very handy and just what I was looking for!

Matt

spot
10th July 2006, 09:13 PM
Found it in MamePlus. It is also now incorporated into the new build MAME 0.106u10.
Just set it in the video section in the GUI Menu and away you go!
Some cool new video options in the Video menu available now... rotate, screen modes, etc. very very handy and just what I was looking for!

Matt

which build exactly??

LOTR4U
10th July 2006, 09:53 PM
Champion! That's what I was looking for. I had a funny feeling one of the smaller MAME builds incorporated the effect in. Just couldn't remember which one!



Standard arcade monitor is 4:3 ratio. Split that in 2, and you've got 2 3:2 screens.

So no, they won't be in perfect ratio. If anything, the images will be stretched vertically (or squashe horizontally) by a tiny fraction. Probably not noticable however. People play games on widescreen TVs and with PAL borders all the time and don't notice.

Man, how is the ratio of 4:3 different from 3:2. That is the same ratio in my book. If it was 3:1 or 3:4 I would say not but I fail to see what your saying? :unsure

Viper
10th July 2006, 09:59 PM
Man, how is the ratio of 4:3 different from 3:2. That is the same ratio in my book. If it was 3:1 or 3:4 I would say not but I fail to see what your saying? :unsure
What?????
4:3 mean the horizontal is 1.33333333333333 times the vertical whereas 3:2 means the horizontal is 1.5 times the vertical.

elvis
10th July 2006, 10:17 PM
Precisely. It's like people who watch normal 4:3 TV on a stretched 16:9 screen and can't see anything wrong with it. :)

Savage
11th July 2006, 12:47 PM
Yep, stuff all difference bringing it to common - 8:6 compared to 9:6