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Shock_And_Awe
14th June 2006, 07:48 PM
does anyone know, or is there anywhere at all that you can get graphics files of cabinet decals such as TZ? They would need to be high res of course. I know a guy that can do this printing for a very good price but just need some files. Is this the problem that stops everyone from doing it themselves??

Berty
14th June 2006, 07:58 PM
I have thought about this a fair bit and what you really need is one of those old hand held scanners, but im not sure that if they make them anymore as i have wanted to scan large documents but havent been able to do it on the regular flat bed scanner.

The only other option that you have is to remake the art as a vector file, but that would be no easy task.

NMD
14th June 2006, 08:01 PM
Well, i downloaded a file from some link on the pinball newsgroup some time ago. I tried to find the post i got it from but couldnt. I do still have the file though i thought there would be no harm in grabbing it.

Its got all five pieces [left and ride side cabinet and backbox, front of cab] and is in Corel format so i cant open it to have a look at the quality etc.. most printing places have corel i guess ? It also has a txtfile on how to print them and is about 4meg zipped. I will email it to you if you want it. Same goes for anyone else who wants it.

GEE
14th June 2006, 08:06 PM
Jackpot likely refers to this site...

http://www.pinball-artwork.com/

Shock_And_Awe
14th June 2006, 08:07 PM
hey Neil this is for TZ is it? Sounds awesome! Yep send it my way - thanks!

NMD
14th June 2006, 08:26 PM
Jackpot likely refers to this site...

http://www.pinball-artwork.com/

I didnt know about this site but thanks :)

Mark, sending now. Heres a link to them on that site theres a couple of pics. Looking good !

http://www.pinball-artwork.com/index.php?showtopic=227

Shock_And_Awe
14th June 2006, 08:57 PM
so you reckon your file is the same as from that site Neil? BTW thanks for the file!

do you reckon a file like this would have the detail required for a print job the size of cabinet decals? I suppose that's what they're intended for:unsure

NMD
14th June 2006, 08:59 PM
From memory the guy i first got the file from was happy with how they came out on his machine. I dont know anything about corel files but i guess theyd be sweet ? Id say theyd be good quality

Shock_And_Awe
14th June 2006, 10:10 PM
ok thanks guys, I've got TZ. Now what about Bram Stokers Dracula and HS2 Getaway. Any files for these......I realise I am really pushing my luck now:lol

Darksoul
14th June 2006, 10:46 PM
Jackpot likely refers to this site...

http://www.pinball-artwork.com/


F*CK ME!

http://www.pinball-artwork.com/index.php?showtopic=281

They lifted my backglass from somewhere! This is my file, I have zoomed in and compared several of the "errors" I put in it so I could tell if it was mine!

I only supplied this file at that size to one person and now it is out!!!!!!!!

F*CKING BA$TARD

xygt
14th June 2006, 11:44 PM
Roughly translated the sites text to:

"Hello!!!

I research the scans of the two big lateral plastic lefts and lateral right (there or there is the targets or tarjets), and the plastic exchange there or there is a steel marble that it is necessary to type (Number 8)

Have you the possibility to carry out these scans???

thank-you

Tanguy"

He's still not happy with your work of art? I feel for you dude, as I know how much time you spent on this backglass.

Regards,
Xygt

GEE
15th June 2006, 01:20 AM
I only supplied this file at that size to one person and now it is out!!!!!!!!


Ummm...

Why wouldn't you want to share your work with the world's fellow pinlovers...?

(Even the French ones?)

Wotto
15th June 2006, 07:22 AM
does anyone know, or is there anywhere at all that you can get graphics files of cabinet decals such as TZ? They would need to be high res of course. I know a guy that can do this printing for a very good price but just need some files. Is this the problem that stops everyone from doing it themselves??

Go here , go NOW ! -

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.pinball-artwork.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpinball%2Bartwork%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D

It's mainly in French , but click on the first topic ( cases/ pediments?) and look down a little - EVERYTHING you require is there in 2 seperate listings !!!

Shock_And_Awe
15th June 2006, 08:40 AM
Go here , go NOW ! -

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.pinball-artwork.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpinball%2Bartwork%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D

It's mainly in French , but click on the first topic ( cases/ pediments?) and look down a little - EVERYTHING you require is there in 2 seperate listings !!!

Thanks Wotto, it's nice to be able to read the site now! My French is a bit rusty these days:lol
Strange that the best site for this is a French site, you'd reckon there'd be lots of American sites with pinball artwork:unsure

pigsie
15th June 2006, 09:03 AM
This site is mainly for Arcade Art but has a few pinball scans, sorry no TZ

http://www.localarcade.com/4images/index.php

Regards
Pigsie

Darksoul
15th June 2006, 07:51 PM
Ummm...

Why wouldn't you want to share your work with the world's fellow pinlovers...?

(Even the French ones?)

I am signed up to an agreement with Gottlieb LLC Development. I sent the scan off at 1.3 mb to one person prior to signing an agreement with Gottlieb LLC.

I then requested they pull the pic and not use it due to contractual requirements.

OK, it is only 1.3mb and the real file is about 180mb, but that is not the point.


If I could share it with everyone I would as I strongly believe that to get anything out of this hobby you have to put in as well.


My Superman BG is also about 180mb. I am willing AND happy to give that out to people, especially if they have something I want or need it for their own Superman. What I don't like and want to see are people making $$ off of me for something that takes a long time to do. It took about 30 hours.


Scans of plastics etc I am more than willing to give to anyone for their machines.


I sadly see few other people with high quality BG or PF scans willing to give them out, even where no contractual obligations exist.

GEE
15th June 2006, 08:23 PM
I am signed up to an agreement with Gottlieb LLC Development. I sent the scan off at 1.3 mb to one person prior to signing an agreement with Gottlieb LLC.

Aha. Now I understand.



What I don't like and want to see are people making $$ off of me for something that takes a long time to do.

Now maybe I don't understand.

Who is making money from your hard work, other than you and Gottlieb...?

(That site is giving the artwork away, isn't it...?)

In any case, I'm not begrudging you from being paid for 30 hours work. Far from it. At least good quality scans exist now for a machine, which is the most important thing.

Darksoul
15th June 2006, 08:47 PM
GEE, I posted on RGP after I finished my backglasses and had people crawling out of the woodwork wanting me to send full res images to them on a CD and stating stuff like "If they were good enough we might come to an arrangement" or "We will print some up and if they sell we will consider an agreement with you".

The French site is all well and good (great for all of us), but the guy I sent it to simply spread it around even after I told him not to after I signed the agreement with Gottlieb....that was only a matter of about 48 hours - from the time I sent it to him, signed with Gottlieb and then asked that he not use it/send it to anyone else/post it on the net. He obviously kept it and used it. :x



Individual pin fans using them for their own machines to keep them alive and working is great, when people/companies/printers want me to send them what I had done on the sly really stank like they wanted the images, would flog them off, charge the same pin fans I would be happy to give it to and not give me any credit just sux.

They wanted to make a buck, off me, off all of us, without going to the effort themselves.


It is what is really dragging this hobby down a bit lately....isn't it Wayne G?
:p

Wotto
15th June 2006, 09:27 PM
Hey Darksoul,

I totally understand- I am also spending MEGA hours doing artwork right now ( some is at my site already ) and I am concerned that other JERKS will take advantage of it.

I too am HAPPY to do it to assist fellow restorers and collectors but some one will rip it and make $$ out of it.:x

Wotto

Shock_And_Awe
22nd June 2006, 10:29 PM
just wanted to say that I took that TZ cabinet decal file to the printer that I know and he said the file was great for the size job. He said he could do all 5 decals for $250. I have to say I was expecting it to be a little cheaper because he is so cheap with other print jobs he's doing for me but all the same it's better than $450+ from Bumper.

Wotto
22nd June 2006, 10:47 PM
My mate is a commercial printer and he does pin ( 5 pieces ) for me for around $220- 250 so you got a good price I feel.

:D :p :D

GEE
23rd June 2006, 01:34 AM
Ditto. That price sounds pretty good, actually.

mooncresta
23rd June 2006, 06:10 PM
hey shock and awe theres a guy at tumi umbi that will do a set for $195,thats what he quoted me for a space invaders set.
did a print of 16 spinner stickers for me for $10. if your intrested let me know will give address

Shock_And_Awe
23rd June 2006, 06:47 PM
hey shock and awe theres a guy at tumi umbi that will do a set for $195,thats what he quoted me for a space invaders set.
did a print of 16 spinner stickers for me for $10. if your intrested let me know will give address
hey thanks mooncresta, I am at the moment just contemplating though now that I have thought of the job envolved in applying the decals. I will drop you a pm if I look like going ahead...thanks!
Anyone ever applied decals without removing the playfield? I'm thinking at the moment it would require the removal of the playfield to be able to lay the cab on it's side for the side decals??

mooncresta
23rd June 2006, 07:01 PM
i to am still thinking about it with the work involved on putting these things on would rather keep it as original as possible. thinking there would be a lot of prep work on cab to get a good finish once decals are applied.

Shock_And_Awe
23rd June 2006, 07:19 PM
what pins you got mooncresta? It's good to have someone else from the coast on here!

mooncresta
24th June 2006, 06:52 PM
ive got a space invaders(my pride and joy) flash,pheonix,and black hole.
black hole not working at the moment but have learnt not to buy a gottlieb pinny again.

Darksoul
25th June 2006, 01:18 AM
ive got a space invaders(my pride and joy) flash,pheonix,and black hole.
black hole not working at the moment but have learnt not to buy a gottlieb pinny again.


Yeah, them scummy Gottlieb System 80's games. Get rid of that BH, piece of crap, I'll give you $200 for it.

:lol

GEE
25th June 2006, 01:52 AM
Yeah, them scummy Gottlieb System 80's games. Get rid of that BH, piece of crap, I'll give you $200 for it.

:lol

LOL. I'll double his offer.

Wotto
25th June 2006, 12:55 PM
Anyone ever applied decals without removing the playfield? I'm thinking at the moment it would require the removal of the playfield to be able to lay the cab on it's side for the side decals??

When you apply decals to a cabinet you should have a couple of people.
One can hold the decal in the correct "starting position" - normally say the top left hand corner and the second person can hold the top of the full decal in place , keeping it held TIGHT while also working / smoothing SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLY from the top left corner and smoothing it all down in a 45 degree angle as you get that decal to sit into place.
If done correctly you will end up at the botton right hand corner with NO bubbles along the way and the decal well lined up.

I figure if you were to lay the machine down and try and do this job "from above" you MAY end up in a bad place??? At least by keeping the decals and the machine vertical you do have a little bit of "play" to align it in the first few inches as you start to work it.- make sense??

Thats whats worked for me with both printed decals and also painting stencil sets too - have never had a HUGE problem doing it that way but the process is fairly terrifying:D

Wotto

mooncresta
25th June 2006, 05:30 PM
ill keep it at that price.will get it up and running one of these days.

humpalot
25th June 2006, 05:37 PM
ill keep it at that price.will get it up and running one of these days.

Why not just get a replacement MPU :unsure

mooncresta
25th June 2006, 08:02 PM
im sick of board swapping(easy way out,cost as well),do that in my full time job.
i prefer to repair at component level as i have for 14+ years in tv and video and it helps in the long run when i buy other pinnys to repair.
have to admit the williams system 3-7 and bally mpu boards are great to repair.
just curious what would a system 80/80a cpu board be worth new.

Shock_And_Awe
25th June 2006, 08:12 PM
ive got a space invaders(my pride and joy) flash,pheonix,and black hole.
black hole not working at the moment but have learnt not to buy a gottlieb pinny again.
wow, nice collection there!!!

thanks for the advice Wotto!! I think I might just "bite the bullet" and do it.