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elvis
10th November 2007, 02:02 PM
Stanford uni have put up a free online vectorizing website. Convert all your ugly low-res scans and artwork into nice, scalable hi-res vector art for free!

http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/

I posted a guide (http://www.aussiearcade.com/showthread.php?t=1858) a while back on how to do the same thing in Inkscape, but for people new to graphic art that was a bit complex (even to those with a bit of experience, the results are still hit and miss). The Stanford Uni interface seems VERY simple.

They include a how-to video here:
http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vectorize/how_to_use_this_site

If I get some time next week I'll be uploading some test images to see what the results are like, and posting the output here.

Foot
10th November 2007, 03:57 PM
Cool, I'm going to give it go with something I've been working on

GEMINI
10th November 2007, 07:15 PM
has anyone got any results yet

elvis
10th November 2007, 08:18 PM
Cool, I'm going to give it go with something I've been working on

Let us know what the results were like, and how much effort was needed to achieve them.

Wotto
10th November 2007, 08:31 PM
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GEMINI
10th November 2007, 09:00 PM
i just uploaded and :Dfound it really easy and much better quality than i would have been capable of

dmworking247
10th November 2007, 09:04 PM
I'd like to see some before/after samples of what you guys are talking about.

GEMINI
10th November 2007, 09:08 PM
i am trying to upload but can only get the before
it doesn't seem to recognize the after file

dm just give it a try
it is really easy and gives decent results
the only prob i found was i had to press refresh as the web site didn't automatically refresh for me

elvis
11th November 2007, 09:07 AM
OK here's my 5 minute trial.

Both images were done as "logos with anti aliasing" and "many colours".

Download Inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/) to view the vector files. I also use Inkscape to convert the SVG/EPS files into PDF (which you can then view/print from Adobe Acrobat Reader or any other PDF reader out there).

The first is a screengrab straight out of MAME (press F12 while playing, and it will make a romname.png file in your mame/snap directory).

Download: PNG (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/sf3.png) | SVG (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/sf3.svg) | EPS (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/sf3.eps) | PDF (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/sf3.pdf)

The second image I downloaded from The Arcade Flyer Archive (http://www.arcadeflyers.com/).

Download: JPG (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/mvc.jpg) | SVG (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/mvc.svg) | EPS (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/mvc.eps) | PDF (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/mvc.pdf)

The second image might look a bit better if I choose the "photo" option instead of the "anti aliased logo" option. But it took a bloody long time to process, so I'll fiddle with it another day.

Viper
11th November 2007, 09:28 AM
OK here's my 5 minute trial.

Both images were done as "logos with anti aliasing" and "many colours".

Download Inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/) to view the vector files. I also use Inkscape to convert the SVG/EPS files into PDF (which you can then view/print from Adobe Acrobat Reader or any other PDF reader out there).

The first is a screengrab straight out of MAME (press F12 while playing, and it will make a romname.png file in your mame/snap directory).

Download: PNG (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/sf3.png) | SVG (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/sf3.svg) | EPS (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/sf3.eps) | PDF (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/sf3.pdf)

The second image I downloaded from The Arcade Flyer Archive (http://www.arcadeflyers.com/).

Download: JPG (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/mvc.jpg) | SVG (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/mvc.svg) | EPS (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/mvc.eps) | PDF (http://www.stickfreaks.com/vectormagic/mvc.pdf)

The second image might look a bit better if I choose the "photo" option instead of the "anti aliased logo" option. But it took a bloody long time to process, so I'll fiddle with it another day.
Mine came out about the same. Not too bad though.

elvis
11th November 2007, 10:02 AM
Next week I'll try fiddling with a few of the image options, and then I'll print it out on one of the high res A3 colour laser printers at work and see what it looks like.

We also have a large format (A0 - 84cm x 1.2m) colour printer at work, and I'm told staff are allowed to use it if they pay cost for materials. I'm going to grab a few arcade flyers, vectorize them and see what they look like when printed in large format. Should be fun. :)

GEMINI
11th November 2007, 11:11 AM
http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vctr/vctr_flex?g=204163&k=OnK2sFgJLCmXkQR3&p=g this is the finished product
4788 this is the original
i hope that worked
not as good as a much simpler image but still makes me smile

Foot
11th November 2007, 02:13 PM
Not too bad, some parts work better than others

Here (http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vctr/vctr_flex?g=207002&k=AChpGMewNNUH4rLV&p=g)

elvis
11th November 2007, 03:16 PM
Not too bad, some parts work better than others

Here (http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vctr/vctr_flex?g=207002&k=AChpGMewNNUH4rLV&p=g)

Hey that looks pretty good. That should come out nicely if you got it printed and cut on vinyl.

@lien_Zed
11th November 2007, 07:37 PM
http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vctr/vctr_flex?g=204163&k=OnK2sFgJLCmXkQR3&p=g this is the finished product
4788 this is the original
i hope that worked
not as good as a much simpler image but still makes me smile



AWESOME!!!
Its an Indian

coolspot
11th November 2007, 07:50 PM
AWESOME!!!
Its an Indian

yep awesome:)

LOTR4U
12th November 2007, 09:41 AM
I think I might scan and reproduce my own CV under ramp decals. :unsure

coolspot
12th November 2007, 12:27 PM
i dont know how to save the picture and how to print it in a certain size we should try make a program to print mame marquees

Wotto
12th November 2007, 12:28 PM
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coolspot
12th November 2007, 12:34 PM
hardly any difference to the picture

MrQuan
12th November 2007, 12:44 PM
i dont know how to save the picture and how to print it in a certain size we should try make a program to print mame marquees

You usually don't print marquees yourself. They are printed on special material to be durable and good for backlighting. They are also printed in one sheet to a size specifed by you, so all the hard work is done ;)

All you need to do is find a marquee printing mob, give them your image (vector is generally the best) and the dimensions for your cabinet.

coolspot
12th November 2007, 12:47 PM
ok thanks for that yeah since i built my own mame i guess i will have to get a special one made for it which shouldnt be to hard i hope im thinking of useing the mame marquee printing service thing see if they will be able to print th right one for me and do they usually loomk good when they are printed by them as i dont want to buy one and have it look all crap and stuff :lol lots o typinggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

elvis
12th November 2007, 01:04 PM
That might work OK.

I found this DK3 sample jpeg on the net and upped it a minute ago- not bad !

http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vctr/vctr_flex?p=v&k=TSHugRLLCHPYZOHCrm9rmANhtIrAAYq0&v=222460

I am sure it looks a lot better when opened in Photoshop.

Photoshop is not the best for viewing/checking vector art. It's a raster program by design. If you've got the Adobe CS suite, use Adobe Illustrator instead. It was designed from day dot to be a vector art package.

Any art that was originally vector (like that Donkey Kong art) and has been scanned at high res has a very good chance of coming out near perfect.

The best art is anything with bold colour definitions. The fewer different colours in an image the better the vectorisation process will be. Complex images with variable colours (photos, complex drawings with lots of gradient colours, or highly compressed scanned images) can come out looking bad if the software hasn't been written to compensate for it.


lots o typinggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
Not much punctuationnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Wotto
12th November 2007, 01:24 PM
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coolspot
12th November 2007, 03:03 PM
Photoshop is not the best for viewing/checking vector art. It's a raster program by design. If you've got the Adobe CS suite, use Adobe Illustrator instead. It was designed from day dot to be a vector art package.

Any art that was originally vector (like that Donkey Kong art) and has been scanned at high res has a very good chance of coming out near perfect.

The best art is anything with bold colour definitions. The fewer different colours in an image the better the vectorisation process will be. Complex images with variable colours (photos, complex drawings with lots of gradient colours, or highly compressed scanned images) can come out looking bad if the software hasn't been written to compensate for it.


Not much punctuationnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

i dont like it the shit teachers teach is stupiddddddd

elvis
12th November 2007, 03:39 PM
i dont like it the shit teachers tech is stupiddddddd

If we all speak correct English it means we can all communicate effectivelyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

coolspot
12th November 2007, 03:42 PM
we can still communicate fine example:097: :lol

Virgil Tracy
12th November 2007, 08:02 PM
i dont like it the shit teachers tech is stupiddddddd

This sentence makes no sense:unsure

coolspot
12th November 2007, 08:08 PM
ment to say teach

LOTR4U
12th November 2007, 09:00 PM
Guys,

Q. When you do adjust the art size to be exact? or do you oversize then print out the correct size? :unsure

I am trying to learn so I can vectorize my CPO on my cocktail. I got a good starting point but just need to edit then vectorize and then PDF.

Can anyone help :unsure

coolspot
12th November 2007, 09:02 PM
i think you might have to use a program to print things not it itself cause you can save it

LOTR4U
12th November 2007, 09:07 PM
i think you might have to use a program to print things not it itself cause you can save it

uhu? :unsure

I am trying to get a file that can then be given away to a printer to make a decal.

Viper
12th November 2007, 11:02 PM
Guys,

Q. When you do adjust the art size to be exact? or do you oversize then print out the correct size? :unsure

I am trying to learn so I can vectorize my CPO on my cocktail. I got a good starting point but just need to edit then vectorize and then PDF.

Can anyone help :unsure

The whole point of vectorizing it is that it'll be scalable. As long as the aspect is still the same as the original all you should have to do is hand them the file and tell them what size you want. If you stuff up the aspect then you're gonna be out in one direction.

Yes, I am alive and kickin' in BrisVegas!

dmworking247
12th November 2007, 11:05 PM
That 'Indian' example is awesome... I wouldnt have expected such good results. What a great resource...

but whats this about you not being able to save it? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

Viper
12th November 2007, 11:07 PM
hardly any difference to the picture

Like he said, zoom in and wait for the refresh. In simple terms vectors graphics specify co-ordinates where the colour goes so regardless how big it is the detail scales up well. Unlike the bitmaps these are being created from which look shit once the pixels start getting a bit large. If you have a good image to start with you can vectorize something the size of a CD cover and enlarge it to the size of an entire wall and it'll still have nice clean, crisp lines. Good for cabinet side art.


That 'Indian' example is awesome... I wouldnt have expected such good results. What a great resource...

but whats this about you not being able to save it? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?
Why can't you save it? I saved all mine. Bottom left of the page gives you three options, eps, svg and png.

GEMINI
12th November 2007, 11:19 PM
http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vctr/vctr_flex?p=v&k=mrC4JCoFkV7drFW5fPCMHjDfCXEfNJu0&v=211497
http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vctr/vctr_flex?p=v&k=sMUhub3UmEJm56kYe2nDpIXNnli7Jpgu&v=211316
http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vctr/vctr_flex?p=v&k=hVO7NeeJkYRdTY2RdfiaDzrhiMK1YPcl&v=211444

:D:lol:D

elvis
13th November 2007, 08:39 AM
This sentence makes no sense:unsure
You can thank his stupid teachers for that. But not to worry, we can all use smileys to communicate effectively instead of using clear English.


Guys,

Q. When you do adjust the art size to be exact? or do you oversize then print out the correct size? :unsure

I am trying to learn so I can vectorize my CPO on my cocktail. I got a good starting point but just need to edit then vectorize and then PDF.

Can anyone help :unsure
With vector art you save a document in physical size, not in resolution.

For example, a normal picture might be 640x480. This means nothing to the print industry. They care about linear measurements and DPI (dots per inch). For instance, at 150DPI, a 640x480 image would be 4 and 1/4 inch by 3 1/5 inch.

Vector art (which doesn't have pixels) needs to be stored in linear measurements (centimeters, millimeters, etc).

After downloading your EPS/SVG images from the website, you should open them in a program like Illustrator or Inkscape. From there you can select a paper size (ether a preset like A3 etc, or a custom size) and then scale your image to suit.

When a professional printer prints it, the will print "crop marks". These will be thin lines that line up to the horizontal and vertical width of your document. You can line these up on a large paper cutting guillotine, and cut your image EXACTLY to the size.

I pimped these guys the other day, but I'll give them another mention here:

Fireworks Digital (http://www.aussiearcade.com/showthread.php?t=10062)

They are large format printers (clients of mine). If you want an image printed with them, they can do a lot of the labour for you. Present them with one of your vectorised images, and tell them the exact (to the millimeter) width and height it needs to be. They'll set it up on their Illustrator workstations, scale it for you, then print and crop it in house. The service is great, and they are pretty patient to folks who are new to the whole print/vector game.


but whats this about you not being able to save it?
Methinks you need to open your eyes, my friend. :)