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I've been planning a small run of replicas of these original Pong cabs.

 

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/Kaizen088/Atari%20Pong%20Reproduction/250px-Signed_Pong_Cabinet_zpsipn5pf7v.jpg

 

One of the issues was having as close as possible game play to an original cabinet.

No LCD as I have enough 14" TV's and I didn't want to go RPi or one of the cheap chinese PICs.

Purchasing original Atari Pong boards was out of the question so I looked at some other options.

I had a few handheld pong consoles and a Sheen unit as well as one that was just a PCB from a broken housing which had an AY-3-8500 chip running the game.

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/Kaizen088/Atari%20Pong%20Reproduction/AY-3-8500_zpsdppw38yx.jpg

 

I didn't want to hack to original consoles so I'm looking at reproducing the circuit hard wired to just pong (tennis).

I had a quick look on Ebay and ordered a couple however the one on the PCB is socketed so I can use it straight away.

I'll probably have a go with Vero board first.

 

Has anyone had any experience with these chips before??

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I've been planning a small run of replicas of these original Pong cabs.

 

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/Kaizen088/Atari%20Pong%20Reproduction/250px-Signed_Pong_Cabinet_zpsipn5pf7v.jpg

 

One of the issues was having as close as possible game play to an original cabinet.

No LCD as I have enough 14" TV's and I didn't want to go RPi or one of the cheap chinese PICs.

Purchasing original Atari Pong boards was out of the question so I looked at some other options.

I had a few handheld pong consoles and a Sheen unit as well as one that was just a PCB from a broken housing which had an AY-3-8500 chip running the game.

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/Kaizen088/Atari%20Pong%20Reproduction/AY-3-8500_zpsdppw38yx.jpg

 

I didn't want to hack to original consoles so I'm looking at reproducing the circuit hard wired to just pong (tennis).

I had a quick look on Ebay and ordered a couple however the one on the PCB is socketed so I can use it straight away.

I'll probably have a go with Vero board first.

 

Has anyone had any experience with these chips before??

 

I'm pretty sure @Ryan555 and @David_AVD have messed around with those chips. I remember David having a viewfinder playing pong which was pretty neat.

Good idea using 14" screens, still pretty easy to get.

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I'm pretty sure @Ryan555 and @David_AVD have messed around with those chips. I remember David having a viewfinder playing pong which was pretty neat.

Good idea using 14" screens, still pretty easy to get.

 

I'll have to check that thread out...

 

 

I just found this page which he manages to do it on Tag Strip and squeezed it into a Sony Watchman.

 

http://www.electronixandmore.com/projects/pongman/index.html

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I bought a "project in motion" from a guy some time back with the intention of redoing it but haven't got around to it yet mainly because the PCB files supplied are not compatible with the programs we use here so the whole thing would have to be re-drawn.

 

I will get to it but not for the immediate future.

 

Be aware that the Pong chips are NOT as good as the original Pong game using chips (like this board) - I forget the exact problem but they don't play as well.

 

This board is exactly the same (electronically) as the original Atari Pong.

 

pongPCB.jpg

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I'll have to check that thread out...

 

 

I just found this page which he manages to do it on Tag Strip and squeezed it into a Sony Watchman.

 

http://www.electronixandmore.com/projects/pongman/index.html

 

That's pretty sweet. I've always wanted to mess around with those chips.

I remember that Console, Arcade exhibition they had in Brisbane several years ago (the name of which eludes me) had the giant screen with pong, I think it was the most fun there :D

 

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I bought a "project in motion" from a guy some time back with the intention of redoing it but haven't got around to it yet mainly because the PCB files supplied are not compatible with the programs we use here so the whole thing would have to be re-drawn.

 

I will get to it but not for the immediate future.

 

Be aware that the Pong chips are NOT as good as the original Pong game using chips (like this board) - I forget the exact problem but they don't play as well.

 

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Stop teasing.

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I can understand the challenges in getting a board that size into production.

It would be great to see it come to fruition.

 

The replicas don't have to play perfectly the same as the original.

If someone wants to throw an original board in one it wouldn't be that much extra work, and if someone has one for sale I'd be most interested.

 

The GI AY chips are the simplest way to get the job done and Vero board is good enough just for a couple of units.

 

These are too far from the look of the original game to even consider.

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Arcade-Game-Module-Select-Pong-Space-Invaders-Asteroids-and-more-/351522193802?var=&hash=item51d85b018a:m:mOmHz-yLCskTyPs9iZjk0tg

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I have the bezel artwork file in AI as well as the control panel.

The yellow will be done in laminate and the text will be laser cut vinyl.

The side will also be done in laminate, I got some samples from a few different joinery shops but that was more than 2 months ago and there is a lot more 'retro woodgrain' product available o the market recently.

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awesome, hand cut cab ?

 

I may go CNC as I know a Cabinetmaker who owes me a favour.

 

 

 

I looked at that option but preferred not to go down that track.

 

 

I knocked up the Vero layout but it still needs a crystal clock generator added.

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/Kaizen088/Atari%20Pong%20Reproduction/PONG_zpsedesqxmz.jpg

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Prototype on Vero Board to prove the circuit but then how about this for the finally board design?.

 

This program is free and you can send the finished design you make, off to any PC board maker where they can make batches of boards for you without components in them and then you get the boards and install the parts.

 

The boards aren't expensive to have manufactured, the design work is and this program allows you to do that part much like you had to do using Vero.

 

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/ExpressPCB.shtml

 

Just a thought.

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Looks like you've got lots of sources of info and there was an ETI Electronics Today International or EA Electronics Australia kit / design back on the day that used the AY-3-8500 chip. You might find that archived somewhere.
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Looks like you've got lots of sources of info and there was an ETI Electronics Today International or EA Electronics Australia kit / design back on the day that used the AY-3-8500 chip. You might find that archived somewhere.

 

Silicon Chip own the rights to all ETI stuff so it would be available from SC.

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@Kaizen If you can find out what issue it was in I'll have a look through my collection for you.

I have EA ETI and Silicon chip but not complete sets.

Cheers Trev

 

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ETI 804 (Electronics Today International, November 1976). This classic project based around General Instrument's AY-3-8500 game chip was published

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Here's the finished Vero layout.

I'll attempt to get this up and going tonight, I just have to shoot down to Jaycar to grab a few bits.

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/Kaizen088/Atari%20Pong%20Reproduction/PONG%203_zpskpt2dqkb.jpg

 

Is there any difference in using the TTL equivalents for the 4001/4011 and 4072?

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I should have checked first but Jaycar don't stock the 4072 IC's.

I'll need to find a substitute or a work around (diodes will do as a last resort).

All the components come to around $20. and the AY-3-8500 can be bought for around $5-10.

 

I started cutting the 90 tracks with a razor blade then remembered I had a Dremel at arms reach... :unsure

 

A couple minutes later and all the tracks were cut.

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/Kaizen088/Atari%20Pong%20Reproduction/20170526_190627_zpstpknsejk.jpg

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/Kaizen088/Atari%20Pong%20Reproduction/20170526_190706_zpslenymv3b.jpg

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