Budgie Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Hi guys, Requiring some help to identify a part number to assist with ordering. The part is the bracket which holds several lamps in place above and below the score reels. In this case I require : 6 x 2 lampholder brackets 4 x 4 lampholder bracket 2 x 5 lampholder brackets For the pictured games And also 1 x 6 lampholder bracket for the balls played game over display card Any help identifying these part numbers would be greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire_Power Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Can't help with part numbers, but if it's just the existing ones not functioning then you can use a dremel with wire brush to clean up a section and then solder the cylindrical part to the frame and the centre nipple to the tag to get them going again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illawarra_steelers Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 i will be able to help when home..send me a pm to remind ne. if ordering from pbr i doubt they will have some of those parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 yeah you dont need to replace those you need to learn how to fix them.. do what @Fire_Power said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 yeah you dont need to replace those you need to learn how to fix them.. do what @Fire_Power said The actual lampholder sockets are f@cked and the issue is they are mounted into the bracket. Will somehow need to pull out old sockets and replace them on the bracket can be done put would be much easier if a replacement part was available. The old clean the socket trick and replace the globe will not work on these sockets. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 solder them to the bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 solder them to the bracket. Will do wiredoug, even thought I could use an led strip where the bracket is although @thegrunta666 reckoned it would be too bright and would wash out the score reels. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 the metal needs to be clean and hot.. its not a easy solder job and this isnt a job for a 25w iron, but it can be done. i do it for all em repairs i do. some of them didnt even know the lights were supposed to work. makes a nice difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini2544 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Listen to @wiredoug he's right. From my experience 95% are just a bad ground. Wipe away the dust, give the metal a light sand (not with steel wool) and solder the base to the bracket. Nice bright lights will be the reward. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctucker Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I do the same, take them out on the bench, clean them up, heat them up and solder. It's the best way. Going to be difficult and almost impossible to source a new ones, second hand maybe on Mr Pinball classifieds. Sent from my iPhone using Aussie Arcade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Well I have removed the lampholder brackets from the backbox and cut off 1 set to replace. Hopefully @wiredoug is at the cursed meet as I would like to bring them along and have a quick chat regarding soldering them in place. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 As you can see in this photo the lampholder is attached to the bracket. As you can see in this photo lampholder removed and 2 holes left in the bracket. Hoping wiredoug can shed some light on positioning the new lampholder and which type he recommends using. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 [ATTACH=CONFIG]105325[/ATTACH] note you will need to use a file or dremel to make the metal all scratched / shiny before you can solder it.. you also need to clean inside the socket [ATTACH=CONFIG]105327[/ATTACH] the actual places dont matter much, join the cylinders to the plate, join the tabs to the ends. when the cylinders wont turn any more, the inside is nice and clean and the tab is connected to ( or replaced by a connection to) the end of the socket it will work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 the actual places dont matter much, join the cylinders to the plate, join the tabs to the ends. when the cylinders wont turn any more, the inside is nice and clean and the tab is connected to ( or replaced by a connection to) the end of the socket it will work I'm continuously blown away by how people help each other here. Bloody great forum this is! Michi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autosteve Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Sometimes a small gas butane torch as sold at Supa Cheap are a better way to get the metal up to temp for soldering. The heat while hotter is more direct. Using a electric solder iron will take longer and also put heat in the metal a lot longer. The gas blower will heat the solder point to solder temperature in about 5 seconds and be soldered before the heat has traveled right through the whole assembly. Sometimes more heat for less time than low heat for longer is better. The insulator is Bakelite and will handle the heat. If it is the wire solder tab that has come loose and not the cylinder, a pin punch locked in the vice, put the bulb socket over the pin punch and a gentle knock on back of the rivet will fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Seeing though I had removed the lampholders on one bracket I thought I would share my alternative solve for this problem; Firstly drill out the existing holes to 10 ml and do a little bit of filing so the lamps slide straight in. Then snip off the attaching bracket on the lampholder as above. Now a dob of solder to secure the lampholder Now lampholder bracket is ready to go back in. All done now working perfectly, this is a good option if your lampholders are really screwed and need replacement as these ones did. @wiredoug fix is perfect if you don't want to replace the lampholders. I have several others to do and will use wiredoug method for the majority of them. A big thank you to all who inputted into my thread. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 @illawarrasteelers thanks for your help tony don't worry about research those parts number now mate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Help with part number Here is a photo of a bracket fixed using wiredoug advice. Thanks @wiredoug It worked a treat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 welcome . shoutouts to the person who taught it to me ... i cant honestly remember who it was but there you go its paid forward. now you can show someone else one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddstoys Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Who says you can't teach an old dog ew tricks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiredoug Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Who says you can't teach an old dog ew tricks was it you? cool:) wouldnt surprise me... i cant remember breakfast lol.. senile old dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini2544 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 @wiredoug taught me the playfield thump test for finding touchy switches, I've passed that trick on to a few people.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctucker Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I'll be damned, nice fix! Sent from my iPhone using Aussie Arcade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctucker Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 My turn! Sent from my iPhone using Aussie Arcade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 My turn! Sent from my iPhone using Aussie Arcade Good Onya mate. It is a good fix mine have been working flawlessly since. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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